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DCU Era |OT3| Of Gods and Monsters
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Was hoping HBOMax would figure something out for international audiences by now. I guess these things take longer than usual.
We saw a BRIEF look at it during DC Fandome
And some news from Mr. Gunn
‘Peacemaker’: James Gunn HBO Max Series Adds Nhut Le As Judomaster
Nhut Le has been cast to recur on HBO Max’s 'Peacemaker' as Judomaster.
deadline.com
Semi related. I started up Ghost of Tsushima and the core gameplay loop just makes me want a new Batman Arkham game. Then I remembered they announced those two DC games at the fandome, and tbh, wasn't feeling either from the little shown.
Still hope one of these days there are big budget Wonder Woman and Black Panther games. Insomniac is killing it with Spider-Man. Avengers...look, I had fun with my time in the beta. But still, those Arkham games are top notch. City is one of my most played modern games. Yes, 2011 is still modern to me.
You're probably right. Curious if it's the BvS or JL cowl. BvS one had a thicker neck.
Still hope one of these days there are big budget Wonder Woman and Black Panther games. Insomniac is killing it with Spider-Man. Avengers...look, I had fun with my time in the beta. But still, those Arkham games are top notch. City is one of my most played modern games. Yes, 2011 is still modern to me.
You're probably right. Curious if it's the BvS or JL cowl. BvS one had a thicker neck.
I just watched Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox for the first time. I love that at the surface an affair let to all out war, and that at the core it was about Barry and his grief of losing his mom. I liked that Reverse Flash wasn't really the villain, he just planted a trigger word in Barry who messed up all on his own. The few things I didn't like was Diana's turn; while it makes sense to push back against the Atlanteans, her going to extremes killing everyone in sight doesn't make much sense to me. I also wish by having stopped himself from saving his mom that he wouldn't have gotten all the memories his other self had gained by living with his mom. Besides, this movie was much of what I wanted. Grimdark, extreme sacrifices, worldwide-scaled war, quick cameos like Hal, Deathstroke, Grifter etc, alternate superheroes, much lost hope and a few coming together to reignite it. And Flashpoint surrounding it all. Really liked it. I would like a live-action movie where it's this combined with an alien invasion; what I suspect Justice League Dark: Apokolips War (will watch it next!) and Zack Snyder's Justice League to be.
Looks like BVS. JL cowl was more contoured and had the weird Owlman-esque ears.
I feel like you would get more from AW if you watch the films in-between
I somehow watched Apokolips War before others. Didn't have a problem but watching those Death and Return of Superman movies afterwards, it sets up the events of AW (no shit lol).
Fun read: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-blade-runner-2-turan-19920913-story.html
Don't take this to mean I'm saying JL and Blade Runner are in the same realm, but reading this, I didn't know how the accidental history behind the director's cut of Blade Runner.
Imagine how cool that must've been for the audience.
Fun read: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-blade-runner-2-turan-19920913-story.html
Don't take this to mean I'm saying JL and Blade Runner are in the same realm, but reading this, I didn't know how the accidental history behind the director's cut of Blade Runner.
Imagine how cool that must've been for the audience.
Guess those are the survivors.I posted wrong link. Changed to photo I meant.
Also, adjacent news:
Guardians Vol 2 and Suicide Squad cinematographer is shooting Flash.
I mean, actor-wise, it's probably Julio Ruiz.
We don't know who he's playing and given he wasn't in the sizzle reel, I'm just assuming he's a random dude who gets caught up.
Damn this looks good.I posted wrong link. Changed to photo I meant.
doubt it ... Capaldi has "i will die super fast" written all over his character
Wandavision is pretty good and I bring it up because, when it's not doing the TV gimmicks, it feels much higher budget than other superhero TV shows. And it is, several times more, so that's not a surprise. I believe it's placed at around $200M for the season?
Makes me wonder if the aim for HBO Max DC shows are similarly going to hit movie level budgets. At its height I believe Game of Thrones was around $15M vs estimated $25M of WV. I think Mando season 1 is said to be around $15M. Consider that Disney shows are around half the length of 'hour' (44 to 50 ish minute) programs. That's not to say more money makes for a better show. But with properties like Green Lantern and JL Dark that are supposed to connect to the movies, feels like you need backing there.
Off that, it's been about a year since Bird of Prey released in theaters (remember those?). It'd be cool to get a Birds of Prey show on HBO Max. In lieu of Harley, they can bring in Katana. Seems she no longer has Flagg's back in The Suicide Squad, but he'd likely still advise not getting killed by her.
Makes me wonder if the aim for HBO Max DC shows are similarly going to hit movie level budgets. At its height I believe Game of Thrones was around $15M vs estimated $25M of WV. I think Mando season 1 is said to be around $15M. Consider that Disney shows are around half the length of 'hour' (44 to 50 ish minute) programs. That's not to say more money makes for a better show. But with properties like Green Lantern and JL Dark that are supposed to connect to the movies, feels like you need backing there.
Off that, it's been about a year since Bird of Prey released in theaters (remember those?). It'd be cool to get a Birds of Prey show on HBO Max. In lieu of Harley, they can bring in Katana. Seems she no longer has Flagg's back in The Suicide Squad, but he'd likely still advise not getting killed by her.
They already have Jurnee doing that Lovecraft Country on HBO Max, so might as well put her in another one. That'd be pretty cool. Get Huntress back and give us a DCEU Oracle. Sucks that the GCPD show is in The Batman universe, or else that would have great crossover potential.
Barbara is a bit tricky. Last I heard, admittedly a while ago, they want a movie with her as Batgirl. At the same time, I saw news about Babs as Oracle showing up in the Titans show.
I was always partial to the idea of the Batgirl movie being about the legacy of the moniker. Babs as Oracle guiding Stephanie or Cass as the new Batgirl. For all the superhero movies, it's weird how Ant Man is the one to tackle legacy like that, and it's not done well there. Interested to see how Iron Heart does it as a show in a couple years.
I was always partial to the idea of the Batgirl movie being about the legacy of the moniker. Babs as Oracle guiding Stephanie or Cass as the new Batgirl. For all the superhero movies, it's weird how Ant Man is the one to tackle legacy like that, and it's not done well there. Interested to see how Iron Heart does it as a show in a couple years.
I actually think the level of production for the Sword scenes are kinda rough. Just real flat acting and camera work. The budget all shows in the main Wanda/Vision material though.
I wonder how the budget on that compares to Doom Patrol and Daredevil, both the best in the comic series genre
No clue where it ended up by season 3. Quickly looking it up, seems $40M to $50M for season 1 of Daredevil. Without accounting for runtime differences, about a fourth of Wandavision.
Doom Patrol I'm not sure. Or Titans. iirc Swamp Thing ran into budget issues, something about not getting tax breaks or something. I think it was $80M but they slashed it to be lower once that fell through?
edit: people are throwing around $20M for Titans.
oboy Amazon is spending $1B ($200M for five seasons) on their LOTR show
Doom Patrol I'm not sure. Or Titans. iirc Swamp Thing ran into budget issues, something about not getting tax breaks or something. I think it was $80M but they slashed it to be lower once that fell through?
edit: people are throwing around $20M for Titans.
oboy Amazon is spending $1B ($200M for five seasons) on their LOTR show
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Max will absolutely spend as much on its DC shows, guaranteed.
HBO spent an undisclosed "Game of Thrones budget" on Lovecraft Country and Watched was about $130 million. They're actually low-balling the existing stuff, Stargirl, Titans, and Doom Patrol, but I'd expect Green Lantern to get every penny.
Peacemaker maybe as well.
They essentially spending movie budgets on TV shows for the Marvel and Star Wars stuff. $150 to $200m. Daredevil was $40-50m per season. If you look at most of the shots and set dressing it's pretty standard and they save the money for certain eps.
Doom Patrol is great, but likewise TV cheap. Just looking at the difference between DP Cyborg and movie Cyborg illustrates that. It's probably running with a budget above the CW shows, but not by much.
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My concern with HBO Max is that, yeah, we'll get the budget we want out of a DC show, but all the shows will be mature rated. And yeah, that's not always a problem, but not typically my style for comic shows.
Whereas Marvel can put some more PG or PG-13 level shows on Disney+ and some mature shows on Hulu. DC has CW I guess, but those shows are mostly crap (imo).
Whereas Marvel can put some more PG or PG-13 level shows on Disney+ and some mature shows on Hulu. DC has CW I guess, but those shows are mostly crap (imo).
I don't know if that's a concern I have for the shows. I know recent examples don't help (HQ series, Titans, etc) are pretty mature but I think they'll mix it up a bit better down the line.
DP is great in that you can tell it doesn't have the biggest budget, but god damn do they spend it on elements that actually matter in story telling.
Where's that third season damn it
I mean not sure if still in production, but one of the first shows announced was about DC heroes in high school that doesn't seem super mature
I think we'll get a decent mix
I'm Keeping my fingers crossed for no pandemic related delays lol
One more week Strafe
Stargirl can be deceptively dark/heavy for a show about high school superheroes, but it's the one DCU show that felt "all ages." If that makes sense. Rides a PG to PG-13 line. Rest of the shows seem PG-13 to R. These ratings are all a bit bogus anyway.
Just wanna let everyone in here know that Zack Snyder has released a commemorative SnyderCut themed Mini-Football that's only gonna be on sale for the next 6 and a half-ish hours. All proceeds are going to AFSP (American Foundation for Suicide Prevention). It's about $25, with shipping and handling, it comes out to about $31 USD.
For those interested, you can buy it here
For those interested, you can buy it here
I can dig itJust wanna let everyone in here know that Zack Snyder has released a commemorative SnyderCut themed Mini-Football that's only gonna be on sale for the next 6 and a half-ish hours. All proceeds are going to AFSP (American Foundation for Suicide Prevention). It's about $25, with shipping and handling, it comes out to about $31 USD.
For those interested, you can buy it here
Reminds me that it's weird doesn't have Teen Titans Go nor DC Superhero Girls on the streaming service (the latter of which I don't think gets enough love)
Yeah. The omission of Justice League Action is similarly strange. Didn't have the opportunity to watch it when it aired, but the few episodes I saw were fun. Much more episodic and gag focused than JL/JLU.
At least Brave and the Bold is up.
Yeah JLA is a sad omission, but it's on Hulu if you got that... if Stateside.
I feel like DC's animated output of the past decade doesn't get as much love as it deserves GLTAS, Superhero Girls and JL Action are great.
Not gonna say Young Justice or Harley Quinn because they get their love.