I've seen a few other people talk about Fortnite popularizing hip-hop dance moves without giving credit to the creators.
Chance the Rapper: Fortnite Dance Emotes money should be shared with artists
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I've seen a few other people talk about Fortnite popularizing hip-hop dance moves without giving credit to the creators.
Makes sense to me. I hate the music they have play over the emotes currently, and would much rather listen to a Chance sample or whatever other artists the dances draw from. Plus, you can circumvent having a whole generation of teens calling them the "Fortnite dances" this way.
Music copyright holders should stop being so fucking draconic so developers can actually use the music to appropriately go with the dance it's from
I'm very sure Epic wouldn't sweat the idea of licensing music for Fortnite but copyright holders make simple shit like re-releasing games with licensed music an absolute chore
I'm very sure Epic wouldn't sweat the idea of licensing music for Fortnite but copyright holders make simple shit like re-releasing games with licensed music an absolute chore
Wouldn't the problem behind that be the whole issue the music industry has with the actual labels making a vast majority of the money from a deal that would be made between them and Epic to include their music in the game? They're not about to go try and find out the origin of every single dance in the game and pay the insane amount of money they would have to pay to include that music in the game.
Also, I'd assume most of the music wouldn't exactly be fitting for a T-rated game.
Also, I'd assume most of the music wouldn't exactly be fitting for a T-rated game.
What in the fuck
He is right, copying and stealing from the black culture is the norm though so nothing will happen.
i think there is a tiny difference when a corporation is making money from it
It's a nice thought but not realistic. Epic knows what they're doing. They aren't about to give a slice of the pie without legally having to and at this point any gesture / mocap move added to the game can't be copywritten.
Our cells should sue us for trying to claim ownership when they did all the hard work.
During the finals less than thirty minutes ago, after the penalty.
You might be able to trademark them already
https://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion...hewitts-gesture/2008/01/11/1199988589380.html
Is there though? There have been scenes with people dancing in movies and TV since the medium has existed and this is the first I've ever heard of someone trying to get royalties for creating the dance moves depicted.
Copyright law is already fucked beyond repair and I am sure the people that are already benefitting from it now, would manage to exploit this as well. It's a nice sentiment but it's sadly not realistic.
It's a nice thought but this isn't going to happen unless one of two things happen:
1) The backlash is so big that the loss in real bucks made by V-Bucks greatly outweighs the cost of licensing the songs out
2) The artists change copyright law to include bodily movements and then go on to successfully sue Tencent
So, in conclusion, it's not going to happen.
EDIT: The latter option also assumes that Tencent won't just use their billions to just buy the rights up as soon as possible since a change in the law like that would not retroactively gift the copyright to whoever manages to prove they created the dance move.
1) The backlash is so big that the loss in real bucks made by V-Bucks greatly outweighs the cost of licensing the songs out
2) The artists change copyright law to include bodily movements and then go on to successfully sue Tencent
So, in conclusion, it's not going to happen.
EDIT: The latter option also assumes that Tencent won't just use their billions to just buy the rights up as soon as possible since a change in the law like that would not retroactively gift the copyright to whoever manages to prove they created the dance move.
Sure sounds good, just let me know who "owns" the rights to each dance? Is it the person who first did the moves, who first popularized them, or who is most associated with them?
Dance moves themselves are not trademarkable because they are not used to identify where goods or services originate, unlike a logo, slogan, or brand name. ... However, a dance move can be trademarked in that the name of that dance move can be trademarked.
I can definitely see where hes coming from and there is an arguement to be made.
There is truth to that, though perhaps this isn't the issue to bring it up with.
Exactly this.
I get where he's coming from from a creative stand point, but lets get real here.
I feel like you should know this BobLoblaw. It's probably in your law blog
I hope not. I'd hate for people to buy them when they have music behind them, only to then have to remove them because the license ran out... It's one of the things I hate about digital products and the license agreements. Many cool things have been changed because of shoddy licenses going out of date. Permanent license for the game title or nothing.
You can copyright choreography, which some of the Fortnite emotes could potentially infringe on. I mean, i doubt any of the current ones do, and i'm sure its something Epics lawyers investigate prior.
Maybe not the place for this debate, but it's hard to find that an unreasonable take if you think critically about a lot of western music history and pop culture
I may out myself as a problematic un-woke bigot who probably prays to Jesus and hates puppies (spoiler alert: I don't) but the employees who pour their hearts and soul into a product are more deserving of profit sharing than the "creative" types who are paid millions to gyrate on the idiot box.
Now if you can actually find me the poor kid in the ghetto who people like Chance usually steal their moves from, my options may change.
Now if you can actually find me the poor kid in the ghetto who people like Chance usually steal their moves from, my options may change.