Perhaps this deserves its own thread.
View: https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/1641442087051862018
View: https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/1641442087051862018
That's pretty cool!
Is it something more companies and/or employees are asking to do? It's the first time I've seen this being something, honestly.
best approach is sick leaves for everyone.It was debated in the UK but the Tories shot it down early for being unfair to men or something like that lol
Cool move from CDPR
best approach is sick leaves for everyone.
the company I work in gives "unlimited sick leave" sure they will try to double check if you abuse it. so if a woman has a painful period she can ask for sick leave or work remotely etc...
I think this way it is fair to everyone.
best approach is sick leaves for everyone.
the company I work in gives "unlimited sick leave" sure they will try to double check if you abuse it. so if a woman has a painful period she can ask for sick leave or work remotely etc...
I think this way it is fair to everyone.
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Also for trans people? If CDPR even lets trans folk work there.
If a company gives unlimited sick leave, that's fine but not all companies do sadly. If a person who menstruates needs to have leave for a few days in a month, that would be preferable compared to using up their sick leave if it's limited. And in countries like Spain, the state social security system will pay for such leave rather than employers. There's the issue if a person who menstruates doesn't want to disclose their menstrual health to their employer. But maybe that's down to sexist workplace culture where menstruating people don't feel comfortable to discuss a common and natural part of life. It's about to be implemented this year I believe and might serve as a test bed.best approach is sick leaves for everyone.
the company I work in gives "unlimited sick leave" sure they will try to double check if you abuse it. so if a woman has a painful period she can ask for sick leave or work remotely etc...
I think this way it is fair to everyone.
I thought unlimited sick leave was standard all over Europe. It's at least mandatory in Germany.best approach is sick leaves for everyone.
the company I work in gives "unlimited sick leave" sure they will try to double check if you abuse it. so if a woman has a painful period she can ask for sick leave or work remotely etc...
I think this way it is fair to everyone.
best approach is sick leaves for everyone.
the company I work in gives "unlimited sick leave" sure they will try to double check if you abuse it. so if a woman has a painful period she can ask for sick leave or work remotely etc...
I think this way it is fair to everyone.
Hereby this initiative shall be called "projekt red"
Good for them!
I honestly don't mind if the menstruation leave is covered by the government social system or the employer that's just a detail but for me if a woman is in pain (because she is menstruating or something else) she is entitled for a sick leave. not all women will ask for that leave since not all of them will have painful period but women who do are entitled for a sick leave like me when I break my arm or have a stomach bug.If a company gives unlimited sick leave, that's fine but not all companies do sadly. If a person who menstruates needs to have leave for a few days in a month, that would be preferable compared to using up their sick leave if it's limited. And in countries like Spain, the state social security system will pay for such leave rather than employers. There's the issue if a person who menstruates doesn't want to disclose their menstrual health to their employer. But maybe that's down to sexist workplace culture where menstruating people don't feel comfortable to discuss a common and natural part of life. It's about to be implemented this year I believe and might serve as a test bed.
I remember when I joined four years ago I had 10 days of sick leave: basically once you use them you will have to use your normal leave allowance or get the sabbatical leave. but now it is unlimited (but I am pretty sure the HR will start asking question once you use 10+ per year) I think I use 1 per year.Theres ... limited sick leave? Is Germany not normal in that regard? Or do you mean sick leave without going to the doc?
yeah yeahI thought unlimited sick leave was standard all over Europe. It's at least mandatory in Germany.
Also, you shouldn't have to ask for it, you take it.
It's ok, it's a natural thing. Better than make us believe vaginas produce blue windex like in the commercials.
(but I am pretty sure the HR will start asking question once you use 10+ per year) I think I use 1 per year.
I was wondering the same. I assume it's just PR, I don't think there's an EU country where if you have stomach or back ache such that you can't really work, it's unjustified to call in sick. Unless it's just general 5 days a month off, but I kind of doubt that. Could also be PR aimed at their own employees, like know that you can just call in sick if you're not feeling well. Maybe CD Projekt Red has offices outside of the EU though?so what's the difference between this and just calling in sick? Does someone have to identify the reason why they are sick to their employee or something?
(living in Germany, so the idea of telling an employee about private health matters is foreign to me)
If you read the thread you'd see it's an actual thing and that some countries even shot it down or are only implementing it just now. it's not PR.I was wondering the same. I assume it's just PR, I don't think there's an EU country where if you have stomach or back ache such that you can't really work, it's unjustified to call in sick. Unless it's just general 5 days a month off, but I kind of doubt that. Could also be PR aimed at their own employees, like know that you can just call in sick if you're not feeling well. Maybe CD Projekt Red has offices outside of the EU though?
This is good, my wife can't get anything done during hers and I imagine its the same for several other women.
so what's the difference between this and just calling in sick? Does someone have to identify the reason why they are sick to their employee or something?
(living in Germany, so the idea of telling an employee about private health matters is foreign to me)
It was debated in the UK but the Tories shot it down early for being unfair to men or something like that lol
They're making a jab due to CDPR's known transphobia. Obviously it would have to apply for legal reasons.If your biological sex is female, and your transition is to another, I don't see why you shouldn't take advantage of this corporate benefit.
If you read the thread you'd see it's an actual thing and that some countries even shot it down or are only implementing it just now. it's not PR.
Fair enough! I'm a civil servant so the idea that sick leave is not honored is alien to me, but I can see smaller companies trying to manipulate women into showing up regardless, so it's good that this is codified and openly communicated.This legitimizes menstrual pain as a valid reason to take sick days. This removes potential lenience afforded to companies/doctors in not giving that sick leave in case of menstrual pains.
Quick reminder that women's health issues are always a vector for insidious sexist behaviors, this legitimization of menstrual pains is fundamentally an effort to quell attitudes like someone in a company saying "you had sick leave last time you had your period, you're not gonna have it this month" or "menstrual pains aren't that strong i don't believe you" etc etc. This law (and similar laws) aren't for best case scenarios where companies are already progressive and would provide the sick days regardless, it's for everyone in every kind of work.
It's not something sick leave was given out by even doctors for normally, that is the main issue, now they have to.Fair enough! I'm a civil servant so the idea that sick leave is not honored is alien to me, but I can see smaller companies trying to manipulate women into showing up regardless, so it's good that this is codified and openly communicated.
AFAIK, and it's always Byzantine to me, in places like the United States, sick leave days are treated like a perk and their annual number is part of your employment contract. Which inevitably leads to them being treated as vacation days you should spend.Theres ... limited sick leave? Is Germany not normal in that regard? Or do you mean sick leave without going to the doc?
In the ten years I've worked at my job I have, with the exception of a mandatory quarantine for covid, 0 zero sick days. 😅That really should not be a thing, wtf. 10 days of sickness is very low for an entire year.