It's gonna crush $1 billion, no sweat.
And it's the best Marvel movie ... how's that for a driveby snipet? ;)
And it's the best Marvel movie ... how's that for a driveby snipet? ;)
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Black Panther: The Road to $1 Billion at the Box Office ($1 billion mark reached)
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I am sure no one would react if I just wrote "I loved the film", because it seems that only one opinion is accepted. Peace out.
No. It's a Marvel Studios film distributed by Universal. The same way Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America: The First Avenger were Marvel Studios films distributed by Paramount. The difference is that Disney bought back distribution rights from Paramount, but not from Universal.
Marvel owns the film rights to Hulk. Universal has the right of first refusal to distribute any future Hulk film.
Marvel doesn't even have the rights to Spider-Man, Sony has it 100%, yet you included Homecoming on your chart.
Can't believe how badly all expectations got shattered. Crazy.
Good to know?
Good to know?
Fans denying it is kinda funny when the Phase 1 collector set has the movie in it https://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Assembled-Incredible/dp/B0083SBMGW.
The 10 year anniversary merchandise has it as the 2nd MCU flim and they mention him destroying Harlem in the Avengers.
It should be pointed out as this movie is super sensitive for some. When I said I didn't like it to a friend yesterday he called me a racist and spit in my face.
Peace out.
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Would anyone react to my posts and criticize me if I wrote that I loved the movie?
Peace Out...
You keep using these words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
Usually if you go against the grain of popular opinion you are going to be asked why more so than if you agree. Finding this to be surprising is in fact a little naive.
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If you can't understand why your tone is rubbing people the wrong way, it probably is best for you to peace out permanently instead of saying "peace out" in every post, and still coming back to continue debating with people. Either stay and be willing to engage in an intelligent debate or just part ways with the thread. There's no need for drama.
As I said, after further research into exactly who was involved with that Hulk movie, yes, it does look like Marvel Studios had creative control of it. I'll put it in the next chart update.
You are all right. No need for drama. Again, read the reviews on imdb that have been the most helpful for millions of people and most users visiting the site to understand where I am coming from.
Was this egregious assault perpetrated by a black youth?
Peace out.
If we wanted to read some other people's comments on another site for another community, we would be posting int that community instead.
PEACE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My guy, literally the only reason one posts "man this shit sucks ass" in a thread that's not even about the film itself, but it's financial performance is to get a rise out of people and create a controversy where there isn't one. Thereby dominating the thread and making it about themselves. Your subsequent posts showcase this.
Maybe use your week off to like, reflect on if trolololoing is something you feel like being worth your time and the time of others.
Or don't.
Great overseas Box-Office even though it's a bit lower than usual Marvel output. It'll be interesting to see how well BP will perform in China.
It was a bad sentence with extra words in the wrong places is what it is. As far as sarcasm goes, why don't we ask his "friend" who "spat in his face"! :D
cough cough
Yes it was using his post about being supposedly spit in the face by his friend and called a racist for not liking the movie and making a joke out of it.
Lmao dude, I know exactly what you mean. Some of my Marvel knowledge is based soley on games (mostly Zen Pinball 2 tables haha) because after the 90s I stopped reading the comics. I think that was the time when the Skrull invasion began. (I still remember how my fav. suphero The Human Torch got tricked by a female Skrull. That was shocking and he was so devastated when he found out). But yeah all the 2000s stuff like Civil War, Infinity Stones and so on went completely under my radar. So I got my minimum info from ... PINBALL TABLES lol
Same goes for Black Panther. Would´ve never ever dreamed of that he could become such a huge success. I knew he exist but never had any comics of him in my hands.
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Yeah, that's the real caveat here. No China (or Japan, I think?) numbers yet. I'm sure this movie will outperform a lot of the other Marvel flicks once releases in those territories happen.
I'm 90% sure that Japanese numbers won't be high, they aren't crazy about superhero movies in general. China, well, I guess the brand recognition will be enough to carry BP through the first weekend, everything else will depend on how chinese public will met the movie.
There are only 4 MCU films above Black Panther's worldwide numbers now. It should pretty easily overtake Civil War, and probably Iron Man 3, but the two Avengers are likely out of reach. I expect it to pull in over 100 million in China and about 10 million in Japan. I expect domestic box office to be able to pull another 100 million by even the lowest estimates. It'll probably finish up with 1.2-1.3 billion, but both Avengers are at 1.4 billion and 1.5 billion. A little out of reach I think.
Outperforming the highest-grossing IM film is a pretty fitting way to indicate that Black Panther has inherited the mantle of MCU crutch.
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Yeah, Avengers numbers are unlikely to happen but literally everything else is within reach. I said this in my original post when I created the thread, but the only thing BP needed at the time to get real close to 1 billion was outdoing Thor Ragnarok at the foreign box office. That's a given, IMO.
As an aside, one of the reasons I think Civil War didn't reach the 1.4 - 1.5 billion range is simply because it wasn't called "Avengers," even though it had all of those characters in the movie. That said, it is super impressive that they managed to communicate the fact that it basically was an Avengers movie through their marketing, even though it wasn't officially called that.
I was fairly into comics in the 90's (in Sweden) and only Hulk, Spider-Man and X-Men were a thing. F4 had been around too. First time I ever saw Iron Man was in the XO Manowar game. Capcom's Marvel Super Heroes was a complete mystery to me (Cap who? Thanos what? Blackheart who? Shuma Gorath WTF?). I didn't start even reading up on characters until Marvel vs Capcom, and Tony wasn't in that and Thor was an assist character who also missed MvC2. I also had never come into contact with Ant-Man, Guardians, Black Panther, Captain Marvel or Strange before they started making waves in the MCU. And that's with me being fairly interested. For the general public there is Batman, Superman, Spidie and maaaaybe Hulk. Americans especially wildly overestimate Cap and Wonder Woman, they were non-entities here.
In terms of mainstream knowledge, I'm pretty sure Egghead was better known than Doctor Strange.
In terms of mainstream knowledge, I'm pretty sure Egghead was better known than Doctor Strange.
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I think about this a lot. There are so many people in the world whose first exposure to these characters and their stories has been through the MCU. It must be astounding to them what Marvel's pulled off, with all these complex, interconnected plot threads over the course of so many films. And characters constantly referencing one another and just basically maintaining this really rock-solid continuity through every film.
It's kind of funny. After every Marvel movie, my girlfriend will ask, "Wait, so this was in those comics you used to read, too? And that? And that?" And I'll be like, "Yep, all from the comics. They wrote that one in 1975, that one in 1998, that one in 2002..." She's constantly surprised, heh. I love it.
Iron Man 3 rode the post-Avengers excitement. That said, I love the movie. The Mandarin twist is one of the most ballsy things I've seen in the MCU (although, I wish the villain hadn't turned out to be another boring, corporate rich dude). :)
So is Black Panthers smaller total in non US markets due to it not opening yet in any major markets or the much feared "international audiences don't turn out for black films" trope that was bandied about? I'm really interested to see if that held up.
That is top tier Marvel
Shane Black needs to come back and do a Buddy Cop Marvel Movie
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I'd wait for its run to end (and for its release in China) before concluding that it isn't doing as well in non-US markets. I expect the final non-US figure to at least be in the ballpark of Spider-Man Homecoming and Thor: Ragnarok. (Around 540 million)
Black Panther's final foreign numbers will look like Thor 3 The Ragnarok and Spider-man 6 The Homecoming. That will put it above GotG2 and Dr Strange, and under Civil War. That reason it looks so unbalanced is because the film is insanely successful in America. Its over 500 million now and has beaten every MCU film except Avengers 1.
Hot damn.
I'm so ecstatic. Never thought this day would happen in a million years.
I want to say I hope this translates to more BP comics being sold. But at the same time I can't endorse TNC's run, he is butchering T'Challa
I'm so ecstatic. Never thought this day would happen in a million years.
I want to say I hope this translates to more BP comics being sold. But at the same time I can't endorse TNC's run, he is butchering T'Challa
Ahh that makes sense. Good to know. What a feel good story this films run is :)
People hating on IM3 has always been strange to me. It was easily the funniest Marvel film before Ragnarok (GotG came close though), it feels more like Shane Black and less like Marvel's production commitee, it has Eiffel 65. Now, I know people hate Killian as Mandarin, but I honestly don't know how would they make an Asian Mandarin without resorting to racial stereotypes.
As an anecdote, here in Madrid the cinema was packed, not a free seat. Great movie too, I was very sceptic based on previous Marvel films and on American views on Africa as a continent, but not only it adresses that second concern, it explores the politics of aid, borders, refugee acceptance...very smartly and from a fresh perspective. Wish it would flesh it out a bit more, but it was a great film. To those who don't like Marvel, this is nothing like other Marvel films. And of course, it's great that there finally is non Euro-centric sci-fi out there.
In my experience growing up in the 90s we all identified Marvels main guys as Spiderman and Wolverine and DCs as Batman and Superman and these were mostly due to the cartoons they had.
And my first exposure to Iron man and War Machine and Captain America was all through Spiderman TAS.
I got into comics by reading the Weapon X comics where Wolverine fucked up errybody. I made full jump into the world with Hush but I was all DC then and having cartoons like Justicr League helped.
I didn't find out about Black Panther until 2008 when someone told me about that BET miniseries.
And my first exposure to Iron man and War Machine and Captain America was all through Spiderman TAS.
I got into comics by reading the Weapon X comics where Wolverine fucked up errybody. I made full jump into the world with Hush but I was all DC then and having cartoons like Justicr League helped.
I didn't find out about Black Panther until 2008 when someone told me about that BET miniseries.
Honestly I felt the same way about Wonder Woman.
That being said they are both important movies in this climate right now so I'm happy to see how successful they've been. I personally didn't find either to be anything exceptional from a movie watching perspective, but I can appreciate what they are doing. Glad they exist.