Was browsing youtube and this video came up
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/bAFqy1GZ1ME?si=GWeiEyb32nrHgWjH
Is this accurate?
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/bAFqy1GZ1ME?si=GWeiEyb32nrHgWjH
Is this accurate?
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Apparently Taylor Swift is white women's Larry Bird
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Kanye would definitely say that is accurate
I don't think the analogy makes sense because there is no similar racial disparity in pop music. No one would ever bat an eye at someone mentioning Madonna, Cher, Lady Gaga, etc. in the same sense. It also comes across as pretty dumb when she's currently touring in Brazil. Eminem fits the concept better but that's not really a joke, this just seems like a halfhearted attempt to play off that conversation
I don't think the analogy makes sense because there is no similar racial disparity in pop music. No one would ever bat an eye at someone mentioning Madonna, Cher, Lady Gaga, etc. in the same sense. It also comes across as pretty dumb when she's currently touring in Brazil. Eminem fits the concept better but that's not really a joke, this just seems like a halfhearted attempt to play off that conversation
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Let me know if I'm outta pocket, but Imma take a wild swing and say that there's a high probability that Larry Bird might be more older POC's favorite baller than an older white person's. Just my perspective having come up in the 80's adjacent to the projects.
I don't think the same can be said for TS. That girl's demo is egg shell all the way to the nosebleeds. *edit - in the states at least
I don't think the same can be said for TS. That girl's demo is egg shell all the way to the nosebleeds. *edit - in the states at least
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It's unfortunate because she's done her best to push back against it with tracks with Kendrick/bigging up non traditional looking and acting artists, but for a minute she was set up as a 'real' pop star who can 'play guitar' and 'write her own stuff' unlike rappers and more entertainment focused dancing stars who skewer POC and queer as a marketing point. It's why it's kind of funny watching Country music, where she honed her chops, balance trying to be inclusive because it's roots with black music go deep but also having someone like Morgan Wallen's back.
So, what does it mean when TS sells out stadiums in Asia? Or that poc go to her concerts in Europe and NA? Or sell out in SA?
And the best is relative. Some folks will say Swift is better than Beyonce and some will say the opposite. Does it matter? Are some people that insecure that they cannot handle someone saying they feel one artist is better than another?
And the best is relative. Some folks will say Swift is better than Beyonce and some will say the opposite. Does it matter? Are some people that insecure that they cannot handle someone saying they feel one artist is better than another?
I mean this post with this username in this specific application is just a wondrous sight to behold. Bravo!
To answer your question not even close in my experience.
I feel like this analogy probably applies better to someone like Adele, in that she exists in a category of singers more closely associated with black women specifically and is both considered hughly technically talented (Something I don't really see Swift fans argue) and near unprecedentedly successful (Commercially in, far beyond most of her black peers.
The thing is people here and likely in that crowd might agree with the idea that Adele is deserving of that level of respect so the joke wouldn't land the same.
The thing is people here and likely in that crowd might agree with the idea that Adele is deserving of that level of respect so the joke wouldn't land the same.
I'm not sure if I agree with the premise
"Coming to America" had a whole bit about Rocky Marciano and boxing fans if you wanted a better racism test. Heavyweight boxing has fallen way off over the past few decades so that might be too esoteric now.
This is also the weirdest time to bring up "Larry Bird" when the NBA has guys like Luka and Jokic now.
"Coming to America" had a whole bit about Rocky Marciano and boxing fans if you wanted a better racism test. Heavyweight boxing has fallen way off over the past few decades so that might be too esoteric now.
This is also the weirdest time to bring up "Larry Bird" when the NBA has guys like Luka and Jokic now.
First off, don't anyone dare besmirch the good name of the hick from French Lick. Secondly, just let people enjoy their stuff, man. Who cares.
I was hoping this would be about Taylor Swift being a king shit talker like Bird and not whatever this was.
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Larry Bird is much higher on the all-time great list in his respective field than Travis Kelce's girlfriend.
That is very debatable actually.
As a pop star I rate Taylor much higher than Larry Bird.
Taste is subjective and I am not a huge fan of pop music generally but Swifts success is honestly insane.
Wildly different topic but are we saying sales are what make you the all-time greatest in the space?
It's a discussion. I don't put Michael Jackson in the same country as Stevie Wonder in terms of talent and quality of music but Taylor is the closest I have seen to MJ levels of success in the states since MJ took over for a few years in the 80s.
Well
If people are shelling out for her, she's doing something extremely well.
I honestly don't care where you think she is on a list, but let's not call a famous woman, "some guy's girlfriend", please.
It's certainly what gets you remembered and celebrated in the music industry. There are thousands of way more talented musicians that never left their basement, but that's just the way it goes.
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Larry Bird is ranked 7th all time for basketball players, that's statics based, so it's fairly objective.
Taylor Swift being 6th best or better ALL TIME for music is very subjective.
But that starts with an uneven playing field for minorities and "less marketable" people in this country. It's subjective at the end of the day, I know, but I dunno. Just had always felt weird to me that "person who sells most = best"
Not saying you're saying that. Just speaking in general.
Honestly I have no idea how great a songwriter she is, or how great a vocalist she is compared to the greats; I don't really listen to her music except for when it's playing somewhere I am. But she definitely is one of, if not THE most popular artist in the world.
You're attempt to dunk on Taylor Swift comes off as misogynistic because it is. Be better than trash
It's a funny bit, aside from the needless gendering or who would or wouldn't know sports. I don't think it's meant to be quite so literal, like some are taking it. Nobody actually thinks every single person who says Taylor Swift is their favorite singer is a racist.
the amount of people that never watched Bird play and just use his skin color as punchlines is disgusting
go ask the older generation who were alive during the magic bird era to actually understand how good larry bird was. go listen to magic's interviews on how good bird was. but nah, it's easier to just go "hurrrrr basketball eminem lolz" than learning some history
go ask the older generation who were alive during the magic bird era to actually understand how good larry bird was. go listen to magic's interviews on how good bird was. but nah, it's easier to just go "hurrrrr basketball eminem lolz" than learning some history
Never heard of Larry Bird before this thread. Wheres here in the UK, Taylor Swift is a household name.
I've heard of Larry Heard though.
I've heard of Larry Heard though.
I hate the fucking eagles and they've pretty much outsold every band that critics unanimously rate higher
Jason Kelce's little brother and player for a team that gets carried to Super Bowl wins by the refs
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