Allforce

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Happy Bobby Bonilla Day!

Like every player on the New York Mets, Bobby Bonilla receives a large paycheck every July for their services on the diamond. Only difference here? Bobby Bonilla doesn't play for the Mets and hasn't given them his services in decades.

Every July 1, the Mets pay a 55-year-old retired player of theirs a whopping $1,193,248 due to the more infamously, arguably greatest sports contract ever negotiated.


The deal originated from the Mets owing Bonilla $5.9 million for the 2000 season, but instead of paying the slugger that money, the team negotiated with his agent to pay him later, attaching an 8 percent annual interest rate to deferred money. The first payout of the money came on July 1, 2011, and the Mets have been paying the same amount every July 1 since, and will until the year 2035, meaning that original $5.9 million turned into $29.8 million for Bonilla.

Bonilla retired at the end of the 2001 season.

This story pops up ever year and never fails to amaze me. Teams making bad deals like these are always fascinating, does anyone have any others they know of?
 

NYR

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Similar - Allen Iverson is getting a $32,000,000 cheque from Reebok in 2030. He didn't trust himself with the money so they put it in a trust fund for him.
 

Frozenprince

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At the time it made sense to defer on the deal, keeps flexibility in the immediate term (and the Mets were coming off good years) and doesn't case the interest in until 2011.

Turned out that Madoff was a monster and Fred is incompetent at running a baseball organization.
 

Sanjuro

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Mr. Met is going to have to work the streets forever.

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tokkun

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Awesome. No one who knows basic math looked at that contract.

You have to remember that in the 1990s, the stock market returned an average of 18% per year. So at that time giving an 8% interest rate was not crazy by any means.

The only reason it turned out to be a good deal for Bonilla is that two of the biggest stock market crashes in history just so happened to occur in the next 8 years. It was just luck of the draw. If they made this deal ten years earlier or ten years later, it would have worked out tremendously in the Mets' favor.
 

GuyIncognito

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You have to remember that in the 1990s, the stock market returned an average of 18% per year. So at that time giving an 8% interest rate was not crazy by any means.

The only reason it turned out to be a good deal for Bonilla is that two of the biggest stock market crashes in history just so happened to occur in the next 8 years. It was just luck of the draw. If they made this deal ten years earlier or ten years later, it would have worked out tremendously in the Mets' favor.

More importantly, interest rates weren't as minuscule as they are now. The equivalent U.S. treasury was yielding north of 6% at the time, so paying 8% interest on what is basically a very long dated loan wasn't crazy
 

siddx

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Iverson blew through 200 million like it was monopoly money. That 16 million will last him a weekend.

To be fair he seems to have gotten his shit together now that he is making considerably less money.
 

ElectricBlanketFire

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It's good, but not the greatest worst deal ever. That's the Spirits of St. Louis:

Wikipedia said:
The Spirits of St. Louis were one of two teams still in existence at the end of the American Basketball Association (ABA) that did not survive the ABA–NBA merger. They were a member of the ABA in its last two seasons, 1974–75 and 1975–76, while playing their home games at the St. Louis Arena.

In the summer of 1976, with the ABA at the point of financial collapse, the six surviving franchises (the Virginia Squires went bankrupt immediately after the final season) began negotiating a merger with the NBA. But the senior circuit decided to accept only four teams from the rival league: the Nets (the last ABA champion), Denver Nuggets, Indiana Pacers and San Antonio Spurs. The NBA placated John Y. Brown, owner of the Kentucky Colonels, by giving him a $3.3 million settlement in exchange for shutting his team down. (Brown later used much of that money to buy the Buffalo Braves of the NBA.) But the owners of the Spirits, the brothers Ozzie and Daniel Silna, struck a prescient deal to acquire future television money from the teams that joined the NBA, a 1/7 share from each franchise (or nearly 2% of the entire NBA's TV money), in perpetuity. With network TV deals becoming more and more lucrative, the deal has made the Silnas wealthy, earning them $186 million as of 2008, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, and $255 million as of 2012 according to The New York Times. (The NBA nearly succeeded in buying out the Silnas in 1982 by offering $5 million over eight years, but negotiations stalled when the siblings demanded $8 million over five.) On June 27, 2007, it was extended for another 8 years, ensuring another $100 million+ windfall for the Silnas. In 2014, the Silnas reached agreement with the NBA to greatly reduce the perpetual payments and take a lump sum of $500 million. In the last few years before the lump sum agreement, the Silnas were receiving $14.57 million a year, despite being owners of a team that hadn't played one minute of basketball in more than 35 years. The Silnas will, however, still be receiving a now much smaller portion of the television revenue through a new partnership with the former ABA teams the Nets, Nuggets, Pacers and Spurs.
 

HeySeuss

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Oct 25, 2017
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1.2 million is couch money for a baseball contract. Deferred compensation deals happen quite frequently, but not usually this long. Good on Bonilla

Ken Griffey Jr gets 3.5 million until 2025. He hasn't played since 2010.
 

whytemyke

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Oct 28, 2017
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Deferred interest adding up to multiple times the original debt? It's like the Mets took out their very own student loan!
 

SchuckyDucky

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Nov 5, 2017
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Chris Davis has a similar deal. After his current contract ends in 2023, he will earn 2,800,000 every year between 2023 and 2037.
 
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How david Stern allowd that trade to go through but vetoed the Chris Paul to Lakers trade still baffles me.

The league owned the Hornets and that meant David Stern was the owner and as a smart owner he vetoed the trade because it was a shit deal cause the value they were getting back for Chris Paul was trash.

The Nets owner wasn't smart and he let the terrible deal go through because he wanted washed up stars. The Nets and only the Nets organization are to blame for giving up that much for over the hill players.
 

tsampikos

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Is the reason because over the year period, with the money invested, they make more than they lose as long ad they only ever pay part of it?
 

srhltmr

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The fact that this is called Bonilla day is fucking idiotic. The Mets were not the first team to defer money like this in baseball. And plenty of teams still do. Hell, the Washington Nationals have been deterring significant money on every large deal they've done for years now.

And the Bonilla deferment deal was considered good when it was done, by the way.
 

PrimeBeef

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Iverson blew through 200 million like it was monopoly money. That 16 million will last him a weekend.

To be fair he seems to have gotten his shit together now that he is making considerably less money.
He would be at the casinos in Detroit when he was here every night he was in town. I wonder how much of this deal was him, his agent, and/or Reebok?
 

Gonzalez

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The fact that this is called Bonilla day is fucking idiotic. The Mets were not the first team to defer money like this in baseball. And plenty of teams still do. Hell, the Washington Nationals have been deterring significant money on every large deal they've done for years now.

And the Bonilla deferment deal was considered good when it was done, by the way.
Mr. Met?
 

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Similar - Allen Iverson is getting a $32,000,000 cheque from Reebok in 2030. He didn't trust himself with the money so they put it in a trust fund for him.


That's very self aware for somebody with money management problems.

Having good money management because of your poor money management.