Available now. What a beauty.
16-inch MacBook Pro officially announced, starting at 2399$
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No 10th gen processor or 10-bit screen makes it easy to hold on to my 2016 15" MBP for another 6 months. Also disappointing that the resolution wasn't bumped up to a 4K equivalent, but I can live with that. Will still be an improvement over the 900p realestate of the previous generations.
Finally a pretty good gpu in a MacBook too. Navi cards that perform around gtx 1650 or better supposedly.
still pretty piss poor for $2400 though
but yeah with no 10th gen here seems like you may as well wait until a refreshed model comes next spring.
still pretty piss poor for $2400 though
but yeah with no 10th gen here seems like you may as well wait until a refreshed model comes next spring.
Sounds like a home run. They nailed everything. Screen size, thermals, keyboard, specs, price... knocked it out of the park!
what... did you expect from the refresh of the 15 inch MacBook Pro only?
PRICE? You surely jest. Unless you mean compared to the pricing of other Macbooks.
I've probably bought a new MacBook, MacBook Pro, or MacBook Air every single year since 2014.
I have not been satisfied by a single Mac notebook in any of those years, because Apple's chosen a series of trade-offs that either can't or don't respect my particular needs & interests.
I think my most recent 15" MacBook was the 2017 refresh, but that was way too large and way too heavy for me to actually take with me around the house, much less in my bag (I wound up taking my iPad Pro everywhere instead).
I'd be all about a 14" MacBook Pro with the same sort of design iteration if it wasn't more than 10% heavier than the 3lb 13", but I'm honestly willing to just hold onto my 2019 13" for another 18 months as I hold out hope for an ARM MacBook MacBook that's basically an clamshell iPad Pro—that's probably what I really want, even as a developer
I have not been satisfied by a single Mac notebook in any of those years, because Apple's chosen a series of trade-offs that either can't or don't respect my particular needs & interests.
I think my most recent 15" MacBook was the 2017 refresh, but that was way too large and way too heavy for me to actually take with me around the house, much less in my bag (I wound up taking my iPad Pro everywhere instead).
I'd be all about a 14" MacBook Pro with the same sort of design iteration if it wasn't more than 10% heavier than the 3lb 13", but I'm honestly willing to just hold onto my 2019 13" for another 18 months as I hold out hope for an ARM MacBook MacBook that's basically an clamshell iPad Pro—that's probably what I really want, even as a developer
Obviously this is horribly expensive, but as someone who's looking to replace a 2015 MBP, this is the first thing Apple have put out that seems viable. The base spec would do me just fine, and the keyboard moving away from butterfly switches is great news.
On the other hand, there's that price. Yes, it's competitive when you benchmark it in Apple world, but it's also likely to be a straight swap of the dollar sign for a pound sign, and two and a half grand is A LOT of money for a computer.
On the other hand, there's that price. Yes, it's competitive when you benchmark it in Apple world, but it's also likely to be a straight swap of the dollar sign for a pound sign, and two and a half grand is A LOT of money for a computer.
"100-watt-hour battery, rated to 11 hours of "wireless web"
Damn, 11 hours is a huge improvement over the 3.5-4 hours on the 15" model, at least, my 2017 15" model.
I'm out of the market on expensive macbooks though, very disappointed with my 2017 15" MBP w/ TouchBar. it's a good computer for the most part, but the amount of problems with it for a computer that cost... $2700, $2800 or w/e is ridiculous. And Apple's stubborn resistence to recognizing the problems with this over the years has really turned me off.
Damn, 11 hours is a huge improvement over the 3.5-4 hours on the 15" model, at least, my 2017 15" model.
I'm out of the market on expensive macbooks though, very disappointed with my 2017 15" MBP w/ TouchBar. it's a good computer for the most part, but the amount of problems with it for a computer that cost... $2700, $2800 or w/e is ridiculous. And Apple's stubborn resistence to recognizing the problems with this over the years has really turned me off.
Realistically, this is also what I want. If I didn't need to very occasionally use Photoshop and Illustrator, I reckon I could probably do 99% of my work on iPad OS today. Everything else I use is either a web service or a pure text local environment. I also travel a fair bit and present / moderate events a lot, and an iPad Pro would be a far better thing to have on-stage than a fully-fledged laptop.
I'm a writer rather than a developer, just FYI.
I'm going to need my eldest child to rapidly age 13 more years for that to apply to me.
If you add all the bells and whistles it costs $8000 here. I wonder if anyone actually buys that model.
is 10th gen intel even going to bring anything meaningful to the table in the 45w tdp area
last i heard only the super low power 15w sort of chips are even going to 10nm for 10th gen
last i heard only the super low power 15w sort of chips are even going to 10nm for 10th gen
Excellent. I'm due for a new macbook from my job in the spring. Going to have them get this for me. Perfect replacement.
no. they literally don't care. I haven't been to college in a decade. scroll down and click on the "shop for college" button.
So, same base price as the 15" except:
15.4" -> 16" display
256GB -> 512GB SSD
Butterfly -> Scissor switch keyboard
Vega -> Navi GPU
83.6Wh -> 100Wh battery
And better speakers and cooling. Not a bad bump.
15.4" -> 16" display
256GB -> 512GB SSD
Butterfly -> Scissor switch keyboard
Vega -> Navi GPU
83.6Wh -> 100Wh battery
And better speakers and cooling. Not a bad bump.
The lack of a proper HDMI port and a single USB-A is still painful on this machine, and the camera remains embarrassing.
But it's the first time since 2015 that Apple's released a laptop that isn't actively worse than the one it replaces, so that's no small thing.
And can everyone who's defended the butterfly keyboard since the 12" Macbook shipped finally admit it was garbage?
But it's the first time since 2015 that Apple's released a laptop that isn't actively worse than the one it replaces, so that's no small thing.
And can everyone who's defended the butterfly keyboard since the 12" Macbook shipped finally admit it was garbage?
I will miss it. I genuinely love it. Perfect clickiness and travel. Full disclosure I had mine replaced ones but they did it within a few hours now I have the latest gen.
(I actually preferred the first gen because it was even clickier haha)
The arrow keys however, were dogshit and are much better now that it's an upside down T again.
Yes, I'm referring to the fact that it's kept the same price as the 15". It was rumored to be much more expensive.
Didn't realise this. I suppose that brings the price down closer to £2,000.
An important thing to note:
You don't actually get more screen real estate to work with compared to the 15.4". Still maxes out at 1920x1200 scaled.
I've worked with mechanical and Mac/Macbook scissor switch keyboards my entire life, and everything on paper said I should have hated the butterfly switch and low travel, but it just really clicked with me for whatever reason. Can't really explain it.
You don't actually get more screen real estate to work with compared to the 15.4". Still maxes out at 1920x1200 scaled.
I've worked with mechanical and Mac/Macbook scissor switch keyboards my entire life, and everything on paper said I should have hated the butterfly switch and low travel, but it just really clicked with me for whatever reason. Can't really explain it.
An important thing to note:
You don't actually get more screen real estate to work with compared to the 15.4". Still maxes out at 1920x1200 scaled.
I guess the 1080p one will seem a little less tiny. I have good eyes but that's straining.
Thanks for this post tho btw I was looking for this.
I have a friend who feels the same as you. He's been a long-time Mac user and, while he's an executive now, he still spends a fair bit of time actually writing and even coding. He says the low travel helps him type faster, so I guess maybe there are two kinds of touch typists: ones like me who absolutely need the tactile feedback of key travel, and ones like him who just fly through without actually registering what their fingers are doing.
