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Cranster

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,788
Beginning today, 7/2, the current MCC Insider build will receive a hefty update that will include the entirety of MCC. We're considering PHASE ONE: EARLY ACCESS for Flight #3 and as such, only those participants who are already active in the flight ring will be able to play. With your help, the team hopes to validate this build and assuming everything goes according to plan, we'll move into PHASE TWO - which could be as early as next week. PHASE TWO will then open up to EVERYONE who is registered with the MCC Insider Program. To those of you who've been patiently waiting on the sidelines - your time is almost here!

WHAT'S IN THE FLIGHT?
This latest build will include ALL of MCC in its current, work-in-progress state. Work continues and there are sure to be issues that arise - both known and unknown - but we're excited to finally get the entire product out into the wild for Insiders to get hands-on.

FOCUS AREAS

For this flight, we're asking our participants to please focus on the following:
  • Campaigns & Campaign Co-op
  • Custom Games
  • Forge
  • Theater
Feel free to play and spend time in any/all of these modes - none of which are dependent on matchmaking.We do have a few official play times scheduled to help get players into matchmaking. A limited number of playlists will be available and the offerings are subject to change depending on overall player engagement and population levels. Current the plan is to offer Halo 2 Classic 4v4 and Halo 3 Action Sack (4v4) playlists.Please join us online for the following official multiplayer matchmaking play sessions:
  • Friday, July 6: 11AM to 2PM PDT & 7PM to 10PM PDT
  • Saturday, July 7: 11AM to 2PM PDT & 7PM to 10PM PDT
  • Sunday, July 8: 11AM to 2PM PDT & 4PM to 7PM PDT
And remember, you're free (and highly encouraged!) to play as much as you want across the entire MCC product offering any time you want outside of the official MP times above.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/...-3/23d7641c-c98c-4117-9814-b2f339141558/posts
 

MagicPhone

Member
Oct 25, 2017
237
Los Angeles, CA
Here's a dumb question that I'm super embarrassed about asking... does this pop achievements?

Also, are the 4k/HDR changes live in any of the campaigns yet?
 

ThatsMyTrunks

Mokuzai Studio
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
2,622
San Antonio, TX
Man, I signed up for the flights the day they were available, I played a TON of Master Chief Collection (even pre-release), and I never got picked for any of the flights. I'm really excited about this one, though!
 

hlhbk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,117
Ok so I signed up for this back when it was announced and I was approved how do I enable this in the MCC collection?
 

Deleted member 12317

Account closed at user request
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,134
Here's a dumb question that I'm super embarrassed about asking... does this pop achievements?

Also, are the 4k/HDR changes live in any of the campaigns yet?
No achievement in the Insider version (it's a separate game for now, without achievement).

Campaigns should be 4K, I only donwloaded Halo 1 for now and it is (as well as its MP).

Ok so I signed up for this back when it was announced and I was approved how do I enable this in the MCC collection?
You have to download the Xbox Insider Hub app on the console and then opt in the Halo MCC Insider program that should appear in the Insider Content menu on the left.

Some screens I took of the Halo level in Halo Anniversary, it's definitely native 4K :



 
Oct 27, 2017
5,860
The update is 65GB which makes sense as it's the full MCC.

How did you manage to only download Halo 1? Can you choose the smart install options from inside the game once it becomes Ready to Start?

Edit: yeah I should have read further down. There s a separate Intelligent delivery post.
 

Dancrane212

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,962
No achievement in the Insider version (it's a separate game for now, without achievement).

Campaigns should be 4K, I only donwloaded Halo 1 for now and it is (as well as its MP).


You have to download the Xbox Insider Hub app on the console and then opt in the Halo MCC Insider program that should appear in the Insider Content menu on the left.

Some screens I took of the Halo level in Halo Anniversary, it's definitely native 4K :




Can you tell if the in-game UI is 4k? Just on my phone here but, even zooming in, it looks pretty sharp.
 

Merc

Member
Jun 10, 2018
1,254
Jesus, the game released 4 years ago is still being worked on. Better late than never but embarrassing
 

StillEdge

Member
Oct 29, 2017
778
Man, I signed up for the flights the day they were available, I played a TON of Master Chief Collection (even pre-release), and I never got picked for any of the flights. I'm really excited about this one, though!
Same. I guess I'm just bummed because I really want to play some of the classics again and don't want to touch it until these updates start rolling in.
 

Merc

Member
Jun 10, 2018
1,254
They stopped working on it 3 years ago.

This is a new project to bring the game up to 4k, HDR and fix the legacy issues with the Original release. And it's spectacular.

Great project idea. While adding 4k and HDR, the team can work on other improvements. Just so sad the game was in such a poor state
 

Baked Pigeon

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,087
Phoenix
So they are bringing all the games up to 4k with HDR?

I enrolled in the program but yet to have an invite.

Really bummed because I'm making my way through the games right now.
 

bsigg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,562
Jesus, the game released 4 years ago is still being worked on. Better late than never but embarrassing

So now that we have our typical shit on MCC post out of the way, what are people's thoughts on H2A campaign? I was waiting to play through it on Legendary until the update dropped.

So they are bringing all the games up to 4k with HDR?

I enrolled in the program but yet to have an invite.

Really bummed because I'm making my way through the games right now.

Today's release is for anyone who was in the first two flights. They're going to hopefully be pushing the download live to everyone else next week.
 

Gestault

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,384
So now that we have our typical shit on MCC post out of the way, what are people's thoughts on H2A campaign? I was waiting to play through it on Legendary until the update dropped.

The new intro/outro cinematics actually make it a much better game than it ever was originally. The enhanced game graphics have a lot of polish, and it's (mostly) aged pretty darned well. Personally, I appreciate the campaign split between the different characters more than I did at the time. New terminals are good, though last I'd checked, they streamed rather than just being in-game. That last part may be out of date
 

Ferny

FutureERA
Member
Oct 23, 2017
658
So anyone who has been in the previous flights, how is the multi now? Matchmaking speeds and all that? It was really the biggest reason I was so excited for MCC so hoping they really improved it here.
 

Garrett 2U

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,511
I have been so eagerly anticipating this!
I am downloading the update now, 65 GB on Xbox One!

But the Fast Start feature is enabled and apparently works for updates, which is really neat. I'm curious to see what features are enabled with fast start.
 

Garrett 2U

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,511
Total installation sizes in GBs

Halo CE Campaign: 7.1
Halo CE Multiplayer: 6.2
Halo 2 Campaign: 25.5
Halo 2 Multiplayer: 22.9
Halo 3 Campaign: 10.1
Halo 3 Multiplayer: 9.2
Halo 3 ODST: 10.2
Halo 4 Campaign: 13.7
Halo 4 Multiplayer: 15.5

You can choose any assortment of content to download, it is really nice!
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,625
Arizona
Anyone get the invite that wasn't in the prior two waves and still not have download access yet? Just wanna make sure nothing weird is going on with me, since I had some strange nonsense go on with wave 2 (I wasn't invited and had no access, but got all of the email correspondence for it after the wave began, including surveys).
 

Stop It

Bad Cat
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,352
Now they're both in 4K how does Halo 3 here compare with the X enhanced 360 version?

The 360 version is 30fps of course, is the X version 60? If so is it pretty steady at this?

If so that'll basically make me a happy hamster, hopefully it'll let me in the flight soon so I can see for myself.
 

Mcfrank

Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,228
Total installation sizes in GBs

Halo CE Campaign: 7.1
Halo CE Multiplayer: 6.2
Halo 2 Campaign: 25.5
Halo 2 Multiplayer: 22.9
Halo 3 Campaign: 10.1
Halo 3 Multiplayer: 9.2
Halo 3 ODST: 10.2
Halo 4 Campaign: 13.7
Halo 4 Multiplayer: 15.5

You can choose any assortment of content to download, it is really nice!

How do the playlists work then? Just won't let you in if you don't have all the multiplayer's downloaded?
 

Garrett 2U

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,511
How do the playlists work then? Just won't let you in if you don't have all the multiplayer's downloaded?

Yeah if you don't have a game required for the hopper, it'll prompt you to download that segment.
Currently I don't believe there are any cross-game playlists, but they have the ability to support them in the future if it is requested.
 

SliChillax

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,147
Tirana, Albania
Now they're both in 4K how does Halo 3 here compare with the X enhanced 360 version?

The 360 version is 30fps of course, is the X version 60? If so is it pretty steady at this?

If so that'll basically make me a happy hamster, hopefully it'll let me in the flight soon so I can see for myself.
Curious about this myself. Does the X update also add HDR apart from 4K? I've read that HDR is great in Halo 3 BC.
 

BigTnaples

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,752
The new intro/outro cinematics actually make it a much better game than it ever was originally. The enhanced game graphics have a lot of polish, and it's (mostly) aged pretty darned well. Personally, I appreciate the campaign split between the different characters more than I did at the time. New terminals are good, though last I'd checked, they streamed rather than just being in-game. That last part may be out of date



This. Been meaning to post about it for a while now because I feel as H2A was amazing but got buried with the MCC controversy.

The game made me appriciate what Bungie was trying to do so much more than I did at launch. And I feel like the art is finally done justice.
 

Uncle Sensei

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,442
Was the LOD always so close and aggressive in Halo 3? I'm rolling up the mountain after the first part of The Covenant and the foliage is popping like 10 feet away
 

DrDeckard

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,109
UK
I'm going to play all of these classics again. I know they messed this launch up originally but I really respect that they are putting so much effort into making right on it and giving this set of games the respect they deserve.

My main question though. Please fix reach. Just a 4k update even. I want them all to be on the x
 

Railgun

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,148
Australia
I'm going to play all of these classics again. I know they messed this launch up originally but I really respect that they are putting so much effort into making right on it and giving this set of games the respect they deserve.

My main question though. Please fix reach. Just a 4k update even. I want them all to be on the x
Really hope we get Reach with 4K, 60FPS, better controls and without that ghosting. Then have a firefight mode for Reach and ODST, still dissapointed you can't play ODST firefight in MCC.
 

IamAToast

Member
Apr 18, 2018
529
Germany
Got an invite. Never really played the MCC. Got it pretty cheap after Release and nothing worked in MP. Almost never touched it again. But will maybe play the campaign with the new 4K updates.
 

OneBadMutha

Member
Nov 2, 2017
6,059
Total installation sizes in GBs

Halo CE Campaign: 7.1
Halo CE Multiplayer: 6.2
Halo 2 Campaign: 25.5
Halo 2 Multiplayer: 22.9
Halo 3 Campaign: 10.1
Halo 3 Multiplayer: 9.2
Halo 3 ODST: 10.2
Halo 4 Campaign: 13.7
Halo 4 Multiplayer: 15.5

You can choose any assortment of content to download, it is really nice!

I see 29.2 GBs I can get rid of. No need for Halo 4 bullshit. The other 7 sections equate to some of the best first person shooter gaming ever.
 
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Cranster

Cranster

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,788
Definitely getting some weird lighting issues on some areas of Pillar of Autumn in anniversary mode, so I filed off a few bug reports. The game too me does look updated or different somewhat even though I'm only playing on the Xbox One S.
 

Polyh3dron

Prophet of Regret
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,860
Ugh I signed up for this HAlo MCC Insider thing so long ago and still haven't been accepted into it. :(
 

jem

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,757
Total installation sizes in GBs

Halo CE Campaign: 7.1
Halo CE Multiplayer: 6.2
Halo 2 Campaign: 25.5
Halo 2 Multiplayer: 22.9
Halo 3 Campaign: 10.1
Halo 3 Multiplayer: 9.2
Halo 3 ODST: 10.2
Halo 4 Campaign: 13.7
Halo 4 Multiplayer: 15.5

You can choose any assortment of content to download, it is really nice!
That's doesn't seem right.

Pretty sure CE was only 6 something GB total.
 

nekkid

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
21,823
That's doesn't seem right.

Pretty sure CE was only 6 something GB total.

Are the sizes dependent on each other for assets?

For example, if you just download the Campaign or just the MP they are those sizes, but if you download both then it is less than their sum?