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How old are the Yakuza fans on PS4?
How old are the Switch owners?
How much of Yakuza fan base has a Switch and how much of them don't have access to a PS4 or a PC?
 
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Going by all the replies, the fact that Yakuza 1 and 2 HD made it to the Wii U is the biggest argument both for and against the games appearing on Switch (because they sold so badly) :/.

Helllllll no. It's a Sony franchise even though Sega develops it. Sony is not helping out the competition no matter what this gen. I highly doubt Yakuza will be on a Nintendo console.

Also, Yakuza is an outlandish game based around happenings within the Japanese mafia. It can be drama filled and comedic at times but also really fucked up. I doubt Nintendo would associate themselves with these type of storylines and real world violence on human characters so to speak (much like why we will never get GTA on the switch).

Violence in a fantasy world type of setting seems to be the bar for Nintendo. So, I don't see this happening for Yakuza or any game like it.

Er... Wolfenstein 2? Doom?

If your point is that Nintendo might not want to publish the games, sure, but they sure as hell wouldn't mind having them. This isn't Mortal Kombat 1-era Nintendo we're talking about. Those days are long gone.

Also, the games appeared on Wii U and are coming to the PC, so clearly, as someone else pointed out, this isn't a Persona-like situation. I was wondering about Persona too actually, but didn't actually ask because really, there is no chance in hell they're coming to anything other than the Playstation. The Switch will be getting MegaTen instead.
 

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A lot of the Japanese gamers have Switches, but most probably not a lot of them care for games like Yakuza, as the Wii U port of the first two games aptly showcased. The target of Yakuza games is quite old compared to the target of the Switch. And I mean men in their thirties or over.

Also, there are more PS4s in Japan than there are Switches, so I'm not sure what your point is.

I don't think many games of relatively popular franchises flopped quite so badly as Yakuza I & II on Wii U.

Helllllll no. It's a Sony franchise even though Sega develops it. Sony is not helping out the competition no matter what this gen. I highly doubt Yakuza will be on a Nintendo console.

Also, Yakuza is an outlandish game based around happenings within the Japanese mafia. It can be drama filled and comedic at times but also really fucked up. I doubt Nintendo would associate themselves with these type of storylines and real world violence on human characters so to speak (much like why we will never get GTA on the switch).

Violence in a fantasy world type of setting seems to be the bar for Nintendo. So, I don't see this happening for Yakuza or any game like it.

Do you two posters have one joint asshole where you are pulling this bullshit from?

Have you seen the demographics of the Switch? Have you seen the types of games being put on the Switch that Nintendo has "allowed"?
 

ShinUltramanJ

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Why not just pick up a PS4 Slim when they go on sale? Especially if it has a franchise that you seem excited about.
 

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Is it possible for something to be less likely than impossible?

Because that's how much of a chance Yakuza has at appearing on Switch.
 

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I would say zero chance. The latest Yakuza games are openly advertised as "extreme entertainment for adults." Seriously doubt anyone would consider a Nintendo platform a good target for that even expecting that they can run (which is not a given), and the unmitigated flop of the remasters of the first two games on Wii U.
The main switch demographic is adults
 
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I don't think you have a clear idea of the magnitude of the flop of Yakuza 1 & 2 on Wii U. It didn't make the top-50 chart, selling less than 1,800 copies at release (actual number is unknown. we only know it sold less than the last ranker).

We're talking about a time in which the Wii U had nearly 2 million units sold in Japan.

I think this is a fair point, but I still think that comparing a release of two games on a home console that had come out years before on other home consoles in Japan at a time that home consoles were more popular in Japan to a theoretical release on a console that can be used portably just doesn't logically hold up.



At the current average pace, it'll take years, if it'll ever happen before PS5 does.

I think assuming that the Switch is going to sell at this pace into the near future is a poor assumption, but I can't be sure that I can adequately show it. I'll leave this to someone else who has experience analyzing the market there to set me straight or to confirm that it won't take nearly this long at all.
 

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Like they wouldn't? Old ports by 3rd parties haven't sold all that well too. Yakuza would probably fall into that category and even if it doesn't, they'd have no long term future on the platform anyway, as it's unlikely that the new games will run on a Switch. So it probably isn't a huge priority.
Like Xenoverse 2 and Disagea 5?

You're acting like Yakuza is some big seller that couldn't use the help of Japan's biggest platform for the next half decade plus.

Good luck with that.
 

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Helllllll no. It's a Sony franchise even though Sega develops it. Sony is not helping out the competition no matter what this gen. I highly doubt Yakuza will be on a Nintendo console.

Also, Yakuza is an outlandish game based around happenings within the Japanese mafia. It can be drama filled and comedic at times but also really fucked up. I doubt Nintendo would associate themselves with these type of storylines and real world violence on human characters so to speak (much like why we will never get GTA on the switch).

Violence in a fantasy world type of setting seems to be the bar for Nintendo. So, I don't see this happening for Yakuza or any game like it.

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...I could post more but I think you get the point. GTA and Yakuza are never, ever coming to the Switch but it's not for this ridiculous reason.
 
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I'm honestly baffled at some of the replies here. I didn't expect every post to be super insightful, but I didn't expect GameFAQs levels of rhetoric either. Between those who act like Yakuza is practically made by Sony and has never appeared anywhere else, those who act like the Switch userbase is the same as the Wii U userbase (even though it's physically impossible since the Switch userbase is already way bigger), those who live in the 90s and think Nintendo won't allow violence on their systems, and those who think only kids buy Switches... Wow. In what reality are you guys living?

Still, some interesting arguments here, thanks! I guess I'll get the game for the PC then...
 

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On the point of Japanese sales - Sega have been branching out to Asia for years to expand game sales, and its working. Yakuza 6 has sold almost a million units as reported a month or two back. So overseas sales in Asia and heightened interest America etc. has helped make up the deficit of sales lost from the Japanese audience. We already know the games will continue to build on Sega's Dragon engine that Kiwami 2 and 6 run on, and that Shin RGG with Ichiban is the next mainline game coming. The Dragon Engine is still being optimised for the base PS4 console (Yakuza 6 had screen tearing issues, Kiwami 2 does not and has better loading etc.) but even then I don't see the engine running on the Switch. Since part of the time and a big part of 6's cost was ,most ;likely spent on rebuilding the engine (with the rest going to Takeshi Kitano to appear in the game ;) ), I don't personally see Sega jumping ship to a different, more Switch friendly engine just yet. I see the 0 and Kiwami PC tests being more important, and think by the end of the year most of the series will probably be on the PC as well as the English remasters on the PS4.

As for the Switch? Sega definitely shouldn't sleep on that opportunity, but I don't think doing ports is the best idea, especially seeing the Wii U ones bomb so much. I've personally thought for a while that they should develop a separate Yakuza series (with different protagonist(s)) for the Switch's market base. Sorta like how the PSP got the two Black Panther Yakuza games. Probably use a hybrid of the older Yakuza 5 engine and go from there. Pitched right I think it could do really well in Japan at least, and I do really want another portable Yakuza game if for nothing else, just to get all that awesome side content on the go.
 

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I would say zero chance. The latest Yakuza games are openly advertised as "extreme entertainment for adults." Seriously doubt anyone would consider a Nintendo platform a good target for that even expecting that they can run (which is not a given), and the unmitigated flop of the remasters of the first two games on Wii U.

There's been Yakuza on Nintendo before.
The Switch has doom and wolfenstein
I dont think Nintendo has censored a game in over a decade
Manhunt 2 was on wii.
The main userbase of switch is adult males.

I seriously don't understand this argument. Are we back in the 90s??

Everything was a flop on the wiiu except for like 4 games. Which were still held back by awful platform.
 

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You're acting like Yakuza is some big seller that couldn't use the help of Japan's biggest platform for the next half decade plus.

Good luck with that.
It sells pretty well in Japan actually and has been for over 10 years without Nintendos help, it's also growing quite well elsewhere. New entries also wouldn't run on the Switch, they could port 0-5 and Kiwami 1 and then nothing else that the PS4/5 will get.
 

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It sells pretty well in Japan actually and has been for over 10 years without Nintendos help. New entries also wouldn't run on the Switch, they could port 0-5 and Kiwami 1 and then nothing else that the PS4/5 will get.
Titles like Xenoverse 2 and Disagea 5 certainly seemed to benefit from the Switch.

Sega is going to cash as the Switch userbase grows in don't you worry.

They couldn't even hold off on the Wii U.
 

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I'd like to think there might be a good chance, but considering that I have my concerns about Sega as a whole, I'm going to say it's doubtful (Still kind of salty that PSO2 never came to the West).
 

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Actually separate Yakuza offshoot similar to PSP ones would be pretty interesting and could also be developed specifically for the platform.

The question is who would do it. Yakuza team isn't that large and they are not going to stop work on the mainline games for it.
 

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Everything on Wii U sold bad.

Even old Wii U ports made by freaking Nintendo are selling vastly better on Switch lol

Yeah don't get me wrong, the Wii U was toxic and I understand why software performed badly.

Still none of us know how SEGA felt about the terrible performance. For me I always felt Yakuza on Wii U was a test going forward to see how nintendo gamers react to a game like Yakuza.

It got a terrible response and could have turned sega off for good.
 

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I would say zero chance. The latest Yakuza games are openly advertised as "extreme entertainment for adults." Seriously doubt anyone would consider a Nintendo platform a good target for that even expecting that they can run (which is not a given), and the unmitigated flop of the remasters of the first two games on Wii U.

Why do we still have to read ignorant nonsense like this in 2018
 

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I would say zero chance. The latest Yakuza games are openly advertised as "extreme entertainment for adults." Seriously doubt anyone would consider a Nintendo platform a good target for that even expecting that they can run (which is not a given), and the unmitigated flop of the remasters of the first two games on Wii U.
Yakuza 0 + Kiwami are on PS3 so power is not the reason for those games not being on the platform.

The more likely reason is lack of interest (from the developers/publisher). Simple as that.
 

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I could see 0 showing up, but I doubt it. Whilst I'm sure it'd sell fine, I dunno if it's really worth it. Even if it tapped into a new audience, it's not like they could keep bringing the series there beyond maybe also Kiwami and remasters of old games (which I doubt they'd want what with the remakes existing).
 

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Actually separate Yakuza offshoot similar to PSP ones would be pretty interesting and could also be developed specifically for the platform.

The question is who would do it. Yakuza team isn't that large and they are not going to stop work on the mainline games for it.

Yes, exactly this. This is how I see a Switch Yakuza game working, seeing as its unlikely that the Dragon Engine would run well on the Switch (so its not as if the newer main games going forward could be ported).

As for studio - Yakuza team could still do it, they handle several projects at a time, I'm fairly certain the second PSP game was released at a similar time to Dead Souls in Japan (it was released close to something, as a Yakuza game definitely stopped me from playing the second PSP game at launch) and we've seen FOTNS, the remasters and remakes get made in tandem with other Yakuza games so it doesn't seem impossible.
 

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Titles like Xenoverse 2 and Disagea 5 certainly seemed to benefit from the Switch.

Sega is going to cash as the Switch userbase grows in don't you worry.

They couldn't even hold off on the Wii U.
I'm not worried, more success that comes to the Yakuza series the better, but let's not act like it'll be anything more than very old ports and maybe a spin-off series if they do well (which could be pretty cool tbf), but new mainline entries will not come to the Switch, no matter how much you think they need Nintendo. The series is very healthy in it's current state and pushing into the PC market, which it'll probably do well in too.

Switch would be a nice bonus, but I doubt they'll make it a priority due to the lack of future games being able to support it.
 

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I'm not worried, more success that comes to the Yakuza series the better, but let's not act like it'll be anything more than very old ports and maybe a spin-off series if they do well (which could be pretty cool tbf), but new mainline entries will not come to the Switch, no matter how much you think they need Nintendo. The series is very healthy in it's current state and pushing into the PC market, which it'll probably do well in too.

Switch would be a nice bonus, but I doubt they'll make it a priority due to the lack of future games being able to support it.
I think if the Switch could handle Doom and Wolf 2 it could handle freaking Yakuza. C'mon now.. it's not like Panic Button is better than Sega's studios.
 

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Yes, exactly this. This is how I see a Switch Yakuza game working, seeing as its unlikely that the Dragon Engine would run well on the Switch (so its not as if the newer main games going forward could be ported).

As for studio - Yakuza team could still do it, they handle several projects at a time, I'm fairly certain the second PSP game was released at a similar time to Dead Souls in Japan (it was released close to something, as a Yakuza game definitely stopped me from playing the second PSP game at launch) and we've seen FOTNS, the remasters and remakes get made in tandem with other Yakuza games so it doesn't seem impossible.
I think current mainline titles are a lot more demanding vs before due to graphics upgrades.

That said I guess they could hire up and give it a shot. It would be pretty interesting move and it's not like Switch has a lot of competition in the modern setting story heavy ARPG Beat'm'Up genre.
 

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I think if the Switch could handle Doom and Wolf 2 it could handle freaking Yakuza. C'mon now.. it's not like Panic Button is better than Sega's studios.
You are comparing a highly customisable and scalable engine that works on everything because of excellent source code written by one of the most genius figures in gaming to an engine that is optimised just for the PS4 and even then it is still getting optimised.

Dragon Engine is impossible on the Switch as of right now.
 

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I would say zero chance. The latest Yakuza games are openly advertised as "extreme entertainment for adults." Seriously doubt anyone would consider a Nintendo platform a good target for that even expecting that they can run (which is not a given), and the unmitigated flop of the remasters of the first two games on Wii U.

Bayonetta says hello.
I think it's unlikely due to the previous iterations performance on the Wii U, however I wouldn't say it's impossible and I'm certain that it won't be blocked by Nintendo.

Performance is another matter, but everything but 6 should run pretty good, at least the ps3 versions.
Zero runs at 60fps on the base PS4 so it should run with 30 fps and lower res on the switch without much other down grades.
 

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Seems like the other dude is talking about the global market not just the Japanese.
That may never happen. However that doesn't mean there couldn't be a healthy audience for a "new" Yakuza experience on the Switch.

Porting Yakuza Zero to the platform may not illustrate whether a title would sell since it would be a very late port and a lot of folks may have played the game on PS3/4/PC by that point. Note I am not just talking Japan but worldwide.
 

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Actually separate Yakuza offshoot similar to PSP ones would be pretty interesting and could also be developed specifically for the platform.

The question is who would do it. Yakuza team isn't that large and they are not going to stop work on the mainline games for it.
Syn Sophia (aka: Aki) developed the PSP games.
 

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You are comparing a highly customisable and scalable engine that works on everything because of excellent source code written by one of the most genius figures in gaming to an engine that is optimised just for the PS4 and even then it is still getting optimised.

Dragon Engine is impossible on the Switch as of right now.
The same could be said about a lot PS4 to Vita ports that they made work.
 

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Port begging thread? Hmm, probably not a good series to do this with. I don't see it happening anytime soon at all. Could be years, if not never.
 

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Yakuza Team might do a Yakuza-style game using a Nintendo property since the Dragon Engine likely wouldn't run on Switch.

But which Nintendo property would it be?
 
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