I have to admit, a part of me hoped that Grosjean would fail to brake into the uphill hairpin and torpedo both Mercedes out of the race, but they managed to remove themselves just fine without his help.
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When I saw you had the latest post in this thread I knew it was going to be about Stoffel. You're sounding like a broken record dude.
After Lewis was out I don't think Ferrari cared anymore. They got good points and rewarding Kimi with 2nd place is fair, he's been better recently.
(Tho I'm sure that Kimi only cares about winning lol)
If this happened then LeClerc is getting his seat fitting at Ferrari before the next weekend.
Stopped listening to the radio coverage after Danny went out, good to see the only way Max can win a race and not DNF is if he doesn't have to overtake anyone on the track lols
Also, would that really have been Allison's call to not bring Hamilton in during the VSC?
Also, would that really have been Allison's call to not bring Hamilton in during the VSC?
Jesus dude, your posts are starting to get to WFV's level. Just stop.
Yeah, if Max is known for anything it's his lack of ability to overtake
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Or Leclerc has signed already and Kimi doesn't give a fuck anymore?
I called it and here we are. Please! Bring me all of your weak arguments regarding Max being overrated and second-rate now, regarding his last 3 races.
My posts? Literally made only one covering this race. Was more sarcasm than actual salt anyway, can't be angry at the guy when there were never any opportunities to overtake anyway (except at the start, which was a solid move by him on Kimi).
Well, it seems like i have made a mistake. Mercedes last double for mechanical failures DNF happened in 1955.
Did anyone find out anything regarding the extreme blistering that happened during the race? The people up front seemed to manage it pretty well (including Max) but almost everyone else struggled. Odd that one RBR suffered from it yet the other was okay.
Also, who was it over the radio who was apologising profusely for not bringing Lewis in during the VSC? Reckon he'll get a talking to by Toto, even though his decision didn't impact the final result?
Also, who was it over the radio who was apologising profusely for not bringing Lewis in during the VSC? Reckon he'll get a talking to by Toto, even though his decision didn't impact the final result?
Jesus.
It depends on a lot of factors, from the whole car as a package, the setup used and even the way the driver treats it on the track. Guys like Max and Checo, for example, are known for being really gentle with the tires. That's why Ocon struggled, while Checo didn't. Same thing with RBR.
It seems my sarcasm-detector was off here, but by posts I mean earlier comments that you made at previous GPs that were always pro-RIC and anti-VER.
After qualifying, Max mentioned that Daniel's setup was much higher downforce than his.
I'm Australian :)
Interesting. I wonder what the speed traps looked like between Max and Danny (before DR retired, obvs).
There's a Motorsport article where Horner says Verstappen lifted off through the last corners to save rear tire wear.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-reveals-tactic-that-helped-verstappen-win-1054411/
I think Ricciardo revealed that Ferrari had less tire wear which makes sense. Ric probably struggled especially much because he was fighting in dirty air.
The track temp was much hotter than practice so the teams didn't really know how the tires would behave.
VES gets "stick" because he's a dick
I don't think anyone can doubt his talent or speed.. They kid is a fucking asshole and I'm happy he got few reality slaps on his face this year to bring him back on track . His duel with Kimi was very respectful, and see where it got him. I can almoat guarantee if he didn't change his style he would be out of the race and probably taking Kimi and more out with him
As for his personality that's up to him.. He'll get fans either way so he shouldn't really care about no-ones likenus calling him a dick on an unknown forum
GOOO KIIMMIII
Oh I certainly won't deny that he can be a dick. Just reminding a couple of users about their posts regarding Verstappen being "mediocre" and "overrated", and "that he'll never come good again" were utter nonsense. That rubbed me the wrong way when they did that, so I'm glad Verstappen DID come good again. Looking further ahead I'm sure he'll calm down on the racetrack as well, just as Hamilton and Vettel did.
It's good that fortunes keep turning for and against people. Makes things interesting.
Even with the overtaking issues it's been a close season so far, with multiple winners so can we really complain
Even with the overtaking issues it's been a close season so far, with multiple winners so can we really complain
Props to the guy claiming responsibility on the radio to Lewis to try and stop his tantrum.
The team deserve a more respectful and mature driver.
The team deserve a more respectful and mature driver.
Adjusting for crashes/DNFs, the championship could have 4 different leaders, maybe 5 if you're generous.
Like Alonso right? Name me one driver that wouldn't be pitching a bitch in that seat yesterday.
Many drivers get similarly irate when things don't go their way. It's the nature of a competitive sport, and you'll find similar behaviour all over the sporting world. I wouldn't believe for a second anyone who told me that they'd be calm and collect in such a situation.
Please preach the "Hamilton is an entitled crybaby" narrative elsewhere. Cheers.
Exactly.
Schumacher. I never liked his driving attitude but this guy was so cool with his team.
Probably late era Schumacher would've been fine with it, but not the Schumacher that punched Coulthard after a race.
So would it be weird to say that if Verstappen had a more cautious approach in the beginning of the season, and gathered more points in the first few races that he would have been a contender for the world championship?
He had rough years before starting to win titles again but he was a good team player to his team, not to others of course.
From what I heard minus Mikka his on track attitude towards other drivers was fucking horrible, even post retirement. He was a team player at least.
Random stats and facts time:
- Nine races into the season: 3 wins for Ferrari, 3 for RedBull, 3 for Mercedes. It's the first time in history with three teams splitting the first 9 wins equally.
- First RedBull win at the RedBull Ring: now RedBull has won on 24 different tracks.
- Max Verstappen, Eddie Irvine and Bruce McLaren are the only F1 drivers with four wins and no poles in F1 history.
- This was the first double mechanical failure for Mercedes since the 1955 Italian GP. In that race, however, they fielded four cars, and the remaining two recorded a 1-2 finish.
- 200th GP for Force India, 50th GP for Haas.
Someone did the math and without his quali / race crashes he'd have potentially more points than Vettel and Hamilton, with room to spare.
Crazy stats on the double DNF. I watched all of the French GP but spoiled the result for Austria, lol. I should have swapped that.
Also, surprised Haas has been around for 50 GP's already.
Worth noting, this is only Mercedes 11th season in F1. 1954 - 1955 / 2010 - present. That still includes 177 GP.
Well in the last decade they had two seasons with 5 points, right now though they're going for a record for the worst season since 1977.
Their situation is really bad - they have the worst car despite the Merc engine, two mediocre drivers and the main sponsor is leaving them next year. I wonder what daddy Stroll does next (this?) year - maybe he'll buy Force India after all and guarantee his son much better chances for solid performances?
Imo the first thing they should do is get rid of Claire Williams. She's probably worse at her job than Monisha Kaltenborn was. Don't know if you've read this but it made me laugh she still finds time to lecture other people about the dress code - https://wtf1.com/post/a-williams-en...out-for-wearing-the-wrong-clothes-on-live-tv/
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Ha, that's awesome (in a terrible way)! I actually saw that live on TV and was like, "wtf is she on about?" I figured it was something technical related, or at least related to one of the cars, at the same time why are you on your phone?!
I'm not surprised for some reason. Williams are having the worst years under her leadership.
If he scored at least a fifth in bahrein, azeirbadjan and Monaco, he would be 26 points behind vettel.
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Being a contender is not quite the same as a having a comfortable lead. It's all hypothetical anyway.
Monaco would be a top 2 position of course without the mistakes, and some other races he 'could have' placed higher than fifth.
But it's a moot point, I don't think anybody would argue that Verstappen didn't waste points in the early season, but this hypothetical comes down to 'if this one driver would have driven 12 flawless races and all the others made their regular mistakes, that flawless driver would be ahead'.
On a more interesting note, Max might turn out to be the savior of the sport after all. According to motorsport.com the 'verstappen village' was such a hit that other teams, tracks, drivers and even other motorsports have taken note.
And I think there's lots of potential here, if they can get a similar turnout and atmosphere for other drivers as well, that would be a huge draw for the sport and a huge financial bonus for the tracks. On Saturday evening alone the Verstappen-fans drank 12000 liters of beer, I'm sure those weren't given away, but more importantly people having so much fun will want to come back and bring friends next time.