-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
God of War (2018) Feels Hampered & Incomplete
- Thread starter DmckPower
- Start date
Op getting killed for it but i agree, the games so repetitive its frustrating as hell. Especially when you consider how amazing the stranger fight was, it was downhill from there when it comes to set pieces
Makes me think most peopel don't know what good pacing is and that's most likely because most games don't have good pacing.
Well common sense says he's right.
Why does it matter if he actually turns into an animal or not in the game? That's clearly a connection to who he really is, furthermore he asked if he could turn into a wolf and we know what that means for his real self, I don't understand how he has little personality, kid is great and how he grows throughout the game is done in a great way too.
I played once on Hard, once on GMGOW, and will play once more when NG+ comes out.
Yes Sony threads usually have some of those too. And apparently,some obsessed with statistics. I would love to know what they think about some of the statistics champions like GTA IV
Yeah, that was pretty disappointing. And then you have this big crow or whatever looking menacing and epic as hell in the background, and it's just window dressing. Maybe we'll get to go back down and kill it in the sequel.
Yup. I do wonder how much overlap there is between the people in these sorts of threads who use argumentum ad populum fallacies, and people who would bitch and moan about GTA IV's metacritic score being too high.
Why you acting like this is strange? there's no contradiction.
If he said those same words and give it a 7.0 or a 6.5. Then i'd expect that reaction.
Calling me a fanboy?
Maybe it is the other way around. Who knows. I find these threads a magnet for hey, someone is criticizing a popular game i dislike, let's join the fight. And same goes for the praise ones, just the same thing different flavour.
That is why i say the opinions would fit better in the OT , not that they don't have to exist and being discussed.
I do agree that the game is too long for its own good. It struggles to stay entertaining when the quality of the side content is so much lower in quality than the main content. I also agree on the enemy variety and the sequel teasing.
All in all, I probably liked it more than OP (ignoring the score lmao), but less than the rest of ERA.
All in all, I probably liked it more than OP (ignoring the score lmao), but less than the rest of ERA.
The last third of the game felt bloated and repetitive. I was disappointed. Cory Barlog admitted that they stripped out a ton of story content for the sequel. But they still padded the game with all these fetch quest type scenarios at the end. I think the main story should have been shorter, and maybe they should have fleshed out the side quests a bit more. Or just included more story in the final hours of the game.
Combat is repetitive? Lol it has one of the deepest combat systems I've played in a while, just in terms of how you can mix things up and how you have to take on each enemy. It consistently provides you with different moves to implement, not to mention switching between the blades and axe mid combat. If the combat was repetitive to you, it's probably because you didn't use everything at your disposal.
God of War only "feels" incomplete because you can't access all realms, and the ones you can visit aren't as fleshed out as Midgard. But I don't think the game lacks content by any means. There's a lot to see. As people already mentioned, the low quantity of epic boss fights is game's biggest flaw.
Since when does 8/10 signify anything less than a great game?
Yup! I expected this grand epic Zelda styled game after we unlocked the ability to choose realms.....Then you realize you can't visit 6 of the 9 realms.
Aside from the lack of enemy/boss variety, I disagree with everything. But I can still sort of see where you're coming from, OP. The 8/10 looked funny after all your complaints though. Perfect example of how scores make no sense sometimes.
I think this applies to most AAA games nowadays; nice to listen to in the background but not memorable. I still remember a theme from one of the PS2 games and I haven't played those in over a decade.
User Banned (3 Days): System wars and Ignoring moderation instructions
It seems this thread has brought the usual drive by posters from other platforms over to downplay the achievement of GOW which is Sony jewel right now and when hard evidence is given that the majority of people love the game some posters as usual try to downplay it.
You aren't in a positive thread that is derailed by people who don't like it. Stop acting like you are please.
Well then....I got nothing.
How is it a hot take if the dude at least explained himself? It's not like he's saying crazy shit here.
Hahahahahahaha what? You're serious????
Ok you are allowed your opinions obviously but I strongly disagree with pretty much everything.
The game was a journey with which I enjoyed every step.
Ok you are allowed your opinions obviously but I strongly disagree with pretty much everything.
The game was a journey with which I enjoyed every step.
You're very wrong on this.
The game had many, many, hints that Atreus was Loki.
- Atreus asked Kratos can he turn into an animal when he found out he was a god.
- Atreus is able to speak to animals very early in the game.
- The World Serpent told Mimir that Atreus looks familiar. If you didn't know the World Serpent is Loki's son which I'm sure you knew.
- Before the game was even out, we learned that Atreus has the ability to hear the thoughts of others and mostly animals which Mimir stated in the "God of War - A Call From the Wilds at PSX" video.
- Notice how Atreus attitude changed once he found out he was a god. There was something evil inside of him the whole time. How do we know this? When Kratos and Atreus were in Helheim, he didn't even realize that he killed Modi. Atreus "That wasn't me. It couldn't have been me." When reaching Helheim that moment happened about 40 minutes ago and he can't even remember what he did? When he killed Modi his face was cold and very evil looking. Remember the first time Atreus killed a human being? He was sad, crying, and broken inside. God of Mischief on display.
- Atreus "You sure I can't turn into a wolf." We all know the wolf in Norse named Fenrir that is the son of Loki as well as the Serpent.
- At the final boss fight with Baldur, Atreus is able to speak the same language as Jormungandr to call for help. Jormungandr was knocked out cold by Baldur. Knowing the size of that snake he was able to awaken and travel so damn fast at incredible speeds to save his father. Mimir literally stated that he was the only one who can speak that ancient tongue. So how did Atreus learn it?
- Also, look at Atreus's hair. Loki in real Norse myth has red hair. Atreus hair looks red in many places depending on where you're at in the game but it also looks very brown. Sony Santa Monica didn't make his hair completely red because it would've been the biggest giveaway before the game released. So, they made it look red/brownish. In the next game, his hair will most likely look red overall since his hair will grow out now.
- The mother revealed to be a giant is another giveaway.
You clearly didn't pay any attention if you think the Loki reveal added nothing to the story. Why do you think Baldur showed up at Kratos house in the first place? He was there for Atreus. Why Atreus? Because Atreus is part giant. Loki is a giant in real Norse myth. In this game, the gods absolutely hate the giants. Mimir spent about 70 percent of the game telling us this.
Odin was given Mjolnir by the dwarfs and he gave that hammer to his son Thor for one purpose only, to slaughter every giant he can find and he did just that. They had a bloodlust for giants. Odin knew there was another giant out in Midgard, so he sent his son Baldur to find it and that's how he meets Kratos.
- Atreus asked Kratos can he turn into an animal when he found out he was a god.
- Atreus is able to speak to animals very early in the game.
- The World Serpent told Mimir that Atreus looks familiar. If you didn't know the World Serpent is Loki's son which I'm sure you knew.
- Before the game was even out, we learned that Atreus has the ability to hear the thoughts of others and mostly animals which Mimir stated in the "God of War - A Call From the Wilds at PSX" video.
- Notice how Atreus attitude changed once he found out he was a god. There was something evil inside of him the whole time. How do we know this? When Kratos and Atreus were in Helheim, he didn't even realize that he killed Modi. Atreus "That wasn't me. It couldn't have been me." When reaching Helheim that moment happened about 40 minutes ago and he can't even remember what he did? When he killed Modi his face was cold and very evil looking. Remember the first time Atreus killed a human being? He was sad, crying, and broken inside. God of Mischief on display.
- Atreus "You sure I can't turn into a wolf." We all know the wolf in Norse named Fenrir that is the son of Loki as well as the Serpent.
- At the final boss fight with Baldur, Atreus is able to speak the same language as Jormungandr to call for help. Jormungandr was knocked out cold by Baldur. Knowing the size of that snake he was able to awaken and travel so damn fast at incredible speeds to save his father. Mimir literally stated that he was the only one who can speak that ancient tongue. So how did Atreus learn it?
- Also, look at Atreus's hair. Loki in real Norse myth has red hair. Atreus hair looks red in many places depending on where you're at in the game but it also looks very brown. Sony Santa Monica didn't make his hair completely red because it would've been the biggest giveaway before the game released. So, they made it look red/brownish. In the next game, his hair will most likely look red overall since his hair will grow out now.
- The mother revealed to be a giant is another giveaway.
You clearly didn't pay any attention if you think the Loki reveal added nothing to the story. Why do you think Baldur showed up at Kratos house in the first place? He was there for Atreus. Why Atreus? Because Atreus is part giant. Loki is a giant in real Norse myth. In this game, the gods absolutely hate the giants. Mimir spent about 70 percent of the game telling us this.
Odin was given Mjolnir by the dwarfs and he gave that hammer to his son Thor for one purpose only, to slaughter every giant he can find and he did just that. They had a bloodlust for giants. Odin knew there was another giant out in Midgard, so he sent his son Baldur to find it and that's how he meets Kratos.
I certainly agree with some of the points, including boring enemy encounters and the forced appearances of the dwarves.
After walking for a bit, climbing stuff and opening doors, you get to see an open space up front? Prepare for a group of enemies coming at you.
You feel like it's been a while since you see one of the dwarves? Worry not, one of them will be there after that big door over there.
People only read the title and shitpost as usual, but I'd agree that it's a bad title in the first place.
After walking for a bit, climbing stuff and opening doors, you get to see an open space up front? Prepare for a group of enemies coming at you.
You feel like it's been a while since you see one of the dwarves? Worry not, one of them will be there after that big door over there.
People only read the title and shitpost as usual, but I'd agree that it's a bad title in the first place.
Didn't know that there was a universal signifier of a number or grade. Because not everyone weighs these the same.
The story is great, but there are some valid critiques that can be made in terms of enemy variety, boss fights, and the pacing of the game with its frustrating fetch quests - and they are for the most part damn good fetch questions, albeit frustrating - amongst other things.
I agree with some parts of the OP. Game was great but in so many ways it was poor, the bosses, the optional realms, the story just to name a few things. Personally, I have no idea how the game got the raving reviews it did. I mean it's really good but a 94 MC? Hmmmm.
Why do I feel that you barely spend time climbing and force walking while some others feel that they're doing it all the time?
I wonder what kind of type of game are they coming from.
I wonder what kind of type of game are they coming from.
I 100% agree about enemies and bosses. It also bothers me when games promote their newfound exploration but it really means you're just trying to figure out what you can and can't walk on in order to pick up a glowing collectible in the corner. Way too much gate-keeping throughout, especially towards the end; lots of "we need to go here — okay we're here but we need a key from there — okay we got the key from there — let's go back to here — okay we're back here but something is in the way! Ready boy!" After a while, in a game like this, I just wanna get to the point; I feel like we're just wasting time.
Game is still very good, with lots to it's credit. Acting is superb, the story really stands out among the monotony we get nowadays. It maybe has the most satisfying melee combat move in gaming history; just hold down R2. When you finally get to the very end point, it's a satisfying moment, but as it has been mentioned, the last few hours leading up to it felt slow.
Some better use of in-game hours in the sequel, some more enemy variety, and a little more versatility in Kratos' traversal and it could be truly magnificent. But for a first game in this new format, Cory Balrog should be super proud.
Game is still very good, with lots to it's credit. Acting is superb, the story really stands out among the monotony we get nowadays. It maybe has the most satisfying melee combat move in gaming history; just hold down R2. When you finally get to the very end point, it's a satisfying moment, but as it has been mentioned, the last few hours leading up to it felt slow.
Some better use of in-game hours in the sequel, some more enemy variety, and a little more versatility in Kratos' traversal and it could be truly magnificent. But for a first game in this new format, Cory Balrog should be super proud.
I like how they implemented Mimir to make the boat sequences more bearable, and him explaining lore is also more entertaining than when Atreus does it. Otherwise yeah, true.
Also agreed with Sindri being one note. He's still entertaining though, imo.
The levels are pretty linear, but it didn't bother me too much.
Granted, I didn't finish the game (played about six hours), but my chief complaints:
- Camera (this is what made me stop playing, good god is it awful)
- Puzzles amounted to "throw axe to freeze thing"
- Enemy variety was almost non existent
I may come around to it again eventually, because I liked just about everything else.
Granted, I didn't finish the game (played about six hours), but my chief complaints:
- Camera (this is what made me stop playing, good god is it awful)
- Puzzles amounted to "throw axe to freeze thing"
- Enemy variety was almost non existent
I may come around to it again eventually, because I liked just about everything else.
Basically this.
I had around ~48 hours in game time and can't remember any fetch quests (even though there probably were some?), it was top tier quality all the way through.
When I was 1/3rd of the game, I thought I was in the end of the game... The game is huge for a single player action story-driven game and it feels very complete to me.
It is like the OP took every single thing that it was praised for and said the opposite. The only one I will give is low enemy variety because trolls popped up, but there were still quite a few varieties. (though I wish the drummer one had made it in)
It's called math. Are you saying it's valid for 8/10 to be terrible and 9/10 being ranked worse than an 8/10?
I gotta disagree with the incomplete part but I am nodding my head on the loading. The climbing got really old really fast. I understand they wanted to have some sections with dialogue and that was perfectly fine but there's a lot of little ledges and stuff that felt like it added up. Also, for some reason it was really hard to ignore the fact that Kratos used to be able to just jump down those ledges, lol.
