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Cyberpunk 2077 is still in a pre-alpha stage
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Did I miss something or has Cyberpunk 2077 received a confirmed release date like BFV?
If an alpha game can be released this year, why should a pre-alpha game be coming next-gen?
The terms have lost their meaning.
Edit: actually, Battlefield V is still in pre-alpha as well.
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And why is that? Because you want it now? They had legit reasons for announcing it when they did and those reasons paid off. They got the interested talent they wanted and got more and more yes on their brand.
It *might* mean that.
I don't get why it is so difficult to understand that milestone designators are very fluid outside of generalities.
Last time I asked why, the answer I was given:
"Just because"
The Surge pre-alpha in 2016, the game came out in 2017.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENypdKYv6-8
AC Origins alpha in E3 2017, the game came out several months later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJj1Y_VQZU
Spider-Man alpha in April 2018, coming out in September of the same year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArsbQxCT-ac
Battlefield V pre-alpha in June 2018, coming out in November of the same year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om4s6h-KyGk
Days Gone alpha in 2018, coming out in 2019.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IW_79PaiRo
There's no correlation between the terms and release date.
no way dude, we don't even have the slightest hint of what state ff7r is even in.
Yeah, no way this game comes out before October-December (Q4) 2020 at the soonest.
Of course it will still be cross-gen.
CDPR will telease on current-gen to rake in the cash from a massive combined PS4+Xbox One install base.
Hardcore gamers will want the PC or next gen console versions on Scarlet / PS5 to get a great experience.
Of course it will still be cross-gen.
CDPR will telease on current-gen to rake in the cash from a massive combined PS4+Xbox One install base.
Hardcore gamers will want the PC or next gen console versions on Scarlet / PS5 to get a great experience.
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I'm amazed people seriously think this game is going to be a next-gen title, it's shaping up to be a late 2019 game at worst.
CD Projekt Red is supposed to have 2 RPGs out by 2021. (page 26)
The most likely scenario would be Cyberpunk in 2019, and that other RPG in 2021.
They mentioned wanting to do something similar to Fallout 4 (As in, reveal and release several months later.) with Cyberpunk back in 2015.
The initial "Hacking" sequence that lead into the reveal at the Microsoft Conference listed what appears to be 4 trailers.
"arch_bullets" is pretty obviously the initial reveal trailer, since it uses a song by Archive named Bullets. "E3_Trailer" was what got loaded during the hacking sequence. So that leaves "gk_WIP" and "final_newfinal_l_v3".
"GK" might stand for Gamescom, as it's been confirmed CD Projekt will be there. While "final_newfinal" sounds like a launch trailer of sorts.
and finally, they've made it very clear that it's mainly being developed for current-gen systems.
CD Projekt Red is supposed to have 2 RPGs out by 2021. (page 26)
The most likely scenario would be Cyberpunk in 2019, and that other RPG in 2021.
They mentioned wanting to do something similar to Fallout 4 (As in, reveal and release several months later.) with Cyberpunk back in 2015.
The initial "Hacking" sequence that lead into the reveal at the Microsoft Conference listed what appears to be 4 trailers.
"arch_bullets" is pretty obviously the initial reveal trailer, since it uses a song by Archive named Bullets. "E3_Trailer" was what got loaded during the hacking sequence. So that leaves "gk_WIP" and "final_newfinal_l_v3".
"GK" might stand for Gamescom, as it's been confirmed CD Projekt will be there. While "final_newfinal" sounds like a launch trailer of sorts.
and finally, they've made it very clear that it's mainly being developed for current-gen systems.
Considering it's been heavily speculated that Next-gen is coming in late 2020 at earliest, the game would need to be released before then.
Yeah anyone comparing this to the shit SE puts us through should stop.
SE announces a game, puts us through years of "we want to show the game off soon" "we'll show it after 'x' game releases" "oh now we'll show it after 'y' game releases" and "expect news soon". Their titles seem to languish in dev hell for years and we're never given any information on when we'll see it again besides vague, misleading hints.
At least CDPR is open about their timeframe. It's clear they're targeting late 2020 with a cross gen release. And even though they announced the game years ago, things never got ad bad as where we are with the FF7 remake for example.
Not really. Just cuz next gen is out doesn't mean current gen won't still be getting games. I bet PS4 has at least a year and a half of quality game releases after PS5 comes out.
I think you are all crazy to even assume any release dates. I don't think CDPR even has a release date set plan yet. Maybe a wishful date, but I think they are being truthful that it'll be done when it's done, and they are going to work on it till they are happy (or they feel fiscal pressure)
Agreed, CDPR has been pretty honest about the state of the game, how far off it was, and are willing to discuss it to some extent. It's amazing what a difference that can make for public and fan relations. The same cannot be said in any way regarding SE.
Pre-alpha does not mean can't be played.
Alpha means can be played start to finish, pre-alpha is before that, and after pre-production.
Beta means content locked and bug fixing.
A game could effectively be a few months from release and still be pre-alpha.
Still not out next year though.
Alpha means can be played start to finish, pre-alpha is before that, and after pre-production.
Beta means content locked and bug fixing.
A game could effectively be a few months from release and still be pre-alpha.
Still not out next year though.
So GamesCon (or games convention) translated into Polish is Konwencja gier so maybe you are on to something here!I'm amazed people seriously think this game is going to be a next-gen title, it's shaping up to be a late 2019 game at worst.
CD Projekt Red is supposed to have 2 RPGs out by 2021. (page 26)
The most likely scenario would be Cyberpunk in 2019, and that other RPG in 2021.
They mentioned wanting to do something similar to Fallout 4 (As in, reveal and release several months later.) with Cyberpunk back in 2015.
The initial "Hacking" sequence that lead into the reveal at the Microsoft Conference listed what appears to be 4 trailers.
"arch_bullets" is pretty obviously the initial reveal trailer, since it uses a song by Archive named Bullets. "E3_Trailer" was what got loaded during the hacking sequence. So that leaves "gk_WIP" and "final_newfinal_l_v3".
"GK" might stand for Gamescom, as it's been confirmed CD Projekt will be there. While "final_newfinal" sounds like a launch trailer of sorts.
and finally, they've made it very clear that it's mainly being developed for current-gen systems.
Considering it's been heavily speculated that Next-gen is coming in late 2020 at earliest, the game would need to be released before then.
In Japan, it would be written 20/7/7 :)
I still hope it's current-gen release late 2019 and next-gen release on July 7th, 2020.
Very good post! Nice catch with the trailers too!I'm amazed people seriously think this game is going to be a next-gen title, it's shaping up to be a late 2019 game at worst.
CD Projekt Red is supposed to have 2 RPGs out by 2021. (page 26)
The most likely scenario would be Cyberpunk in 2019, and that other RPG in 2021.
They mentioned wanting to do something similar to Fallout 4 (As in, reveal and release several months later.) with Cyberpunk back in 2015.
The initial "Hacking" sequence that lead into the reveal at the Microsoft Conference listed what appears to be 4 trailers.
"arch_bullets" is pretty obviously the initial reveal trailer, since it uses a song by Archive named Bullets. "E3_Trailer" was what got loaded during the hacking sequence. So that leaves "gk_WIP" and "final_newfinal_l_v3".
"GK" might stand for Gamescom, as it's been confirmed CD Projekt will be there. While "final_newfinal" sounds like a launch trailer of sorts.
and finally, they've made it very clear that it's mainly being developed for current-gen systems.
Considering it's been heavily speculated that Next-gen is coming in late 2020 at earliest, the game would need to be released before then.
Alpha would mean the game is more or less feature complete and pretty much playable from start to end. Given they mentioned throughout E3 interviews that they're still figuring out a ton of design and systems, it makes sense that what was shown is only a vertical slice.
Being pre-alpha isn't necessarily as early as it may sound (or it could be 5 years off, who knows).
Being pre-alpha isn't necessarily as early as it may sound (or it could be 5 years off, who knows).
For real, who was expecting that. Even 2020 is dreaming big.
There's no comparison between these two games. CD Projekt creates the best story lines and worlds in gaming. KHIII's dialogue seems about as dull as it comes.
I don't know how many more different ways it's going to come out, they've had the director and various suits say "no time soon" at this point, people need to accept that this game is a few years away.
It isn't coming next year. No fucking way. Just because it comes out in 2020 when next gen hits, doesn't mean current gen won't get a dumbed down version.I'm amazed people seriously think this game is going to be a next-gen title, it's shaping up to be a late 2019 game at worst.
CD Projekt Red is supposed to have 2 RPGs out by 2021. (page 26)
The most likely scenario would be Cyberpunk in 2019, and that other RPG in 2021.
They mentioned wanting to do something similar to Fallout 4 (As in, reveal and release several months later.) with Cyberpunk back in 2015.
The initial "Hacking" sequence that lead into the reveal at the Microsoft Conference listed what appears to be 4 trailers.
"arch_bullets" is pretty obviously the initial reveal trailer, since it uses a song by Archive named Bullets. "E3_Trailer" was what got loaded during the hacking sequence. So that leaves "gk_WIP" and "final_newfinal_l_v3".
"GK" might stand for Gamescom, as it's been confirmed CD Projekt will be there. While "final_newfinal" sounds like a launch trailer of sorts.
and finally, they've made it very clear that it's mainly being developed for current-gen systems.
Considering it's been heavily speculated that Next-gen is coming in late 2020 at earliest, the game would need to be released before then.
It has never been stated by CD Projekt Red or even implied as of E3 2018 that the game is "a few years away." All that was said was that comment from Mike Pondsmith - which he himself shot down.
Saying that it's not anytime soon could mean at the end of next year - that's a year and 7 months from May 2018 and that doesn't seem soon either, but it's sooner than 2020. And for those of you saying it wont release until 2021+ ...are you serious?!? Do you really honestly think that this game won't come out until then? It boggles my mind.
CD Projekt Red has over 400 people working on it currently and I'm sure that number will increase significantly as we draw into next year. There's no reason to think that it shouldn't come out late 2019 or early 2020 at the latest.
It's almost like developers don't ever learn from their mistakes or that CD Projekt Red is many times bigger than it was during the development TW3.
Well Obsidian games are indeed only as good as their narrative, so I don't blame you. But Obsidian moves their writers around, and who does what changes from project to project. Was POE 2 a shittier narrative because Fenstermaker wasn't the lead writer or that Avellone wasn't on it? Or was it a lesser combination of writers? Perhaps they just couldn't come up with as compelling a story. We'll never know.
I don't think it's the end for them though. Who knows who is writing for their next project and what combination of writers they have, and who's leading? Unlike technical aspects of production, the creative side, like writing, is not always progressively improving or on a stable incline. That's the nature of beast. Especially when there's a group of writers who have different sensibilities involved, and change from project to project. Therefore there's no reason to think their next game will be a lesser experience. We'll see.
But anyway this kinda going off topic. I hope the narrative aspect of CP2077 is as strong as the Witcher 3.
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At least I'll have something to look forward to when Trump's re-election comes around. Closest I can come to getting me off this loony bin world and into another.
If anything, the game being in pre-alpha is good news. It most likely means they're getting to the nitty gritty of development.
Maybe, without knowing the dev culture and what their own internal goals mean it's pretty baseless conjuncture.
*My own personal baseless speculation on when the game will be released based on its current development state.*
Yes, I am serious, because the only remote time frame provided thus far has been "no time soon". Until that changes you can keep doing these pointless mental gymnastics in your head, I don't really get why it's such a big deal. It'll come out when it's ready, that they have been clear about. I doubt it's anywhere near ready, you think otherwise.
Is this surprising at all? You rarely make it to Alpha over a year before release. And of course that part of rhe game is the most polished. They probably polished it for greenlight meetings or more likely E3 itself. If those 2 things were not concerns, no game would have what one would call polished sections until months or weeks before release.
The quote i noted seems to imply it would be out before Next-gen systems even hit the market.
They could make a PS5/SCARLET version as say, launch titles assuming they do in fact make it out in 2020. But the point is that CD Projekt is clearly expecting the game to be released before the next-gen consoles themselves. That does mean there's a small chance it could an early 2020 game. But i'm still betting on 2019.
As previously noted, "Pre-alpha" doesn't really mean too much in terms of how far in development the game is, and there's more people working on it than there was with the Witcher 3.
I'm placing my bets on the schedule being something like this...
- Gamescom happens, there's a new trailer and a truncated (I'd say about 20 minutes.) version of the E3 gameplay demo shown publicly for the first time. No date, aside from maybe a vague "2019" year.
- The Game Awards (They've shown things there in previous years.) happens, "launch" trailer. With a May-July 2019 release date. There could be a delay to September/October, but i doubt it.
- If a next-gen version happens, expect it to be a GOTY edition (Multiplayer is being considered as something to add post launch, for one.) in the vein of Witcher 3. Probably a launch title on both systems.
This post makes me incredibly happy :)
You just said it yourself - the only official thing we've heard is that it will release - when it's ready.
The facts [post #165] seem to indicate that it should be ready at the end of next year, or worst-case scenario; at the beginning of 2020. Anything past 2020 is absolutely fucking ridiculous.