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NateDog

Member
Jan 8, 2018
1,764
To get some details out of the way / make them clear from the start to try and not leave things vague.

- This happened about 2-3 months ago, but I only found out recently about it. She couldn't tell me because of the trauma of it. I still don't know how she kept it in and kept going. She didn't tell anyone.
- It happened where we live currently which is with one of my parents. (We had an apartment but got priced out of staying, then we found another place to rent but after moving everything in were after about a week told it was unsafe and we couldn't live there so we had to go back.)
- I know who it is, but I only found this out yesterday. This person is not a family member but is very close to our family, is basically family to my mother.
- My partner had suffered physical and mental abuse with certain members of her family over the years, primarily while she was a teenager.
- She doesn't want to report it, not until we are far away from the person

I'm just kind of lost. We've had difficult points as a couple since we met. I had health issues and issues with work, she had more serious health issues including blood clots and a number of stays in hospital and is currently awaiting surgery, we were at one point told we were going to be thrown out of our apartment despite our landlord wronging us multiple times and not the other way around. The rental market is crazy here now and it's so hard to find a place that isn't taken within the day it's listed. Etc.

This isn't the first time she's had to warn guys off that have acted like friends to her and tried to them put moves on her. It's almost like it started with smaller things and continually escalated to this.

I see this person that did it so often that I could take a knife out of the cupboard and stab him. And I want to. I'm desperate to. All I can think of is doing it or smashing his face to pieces. I can't do it, obviously. But I don't know what I can do or should do.

I can't cope. I couldn't when she first told me it happened. I had images in my head that never went away or stopped, made me snap (and I don't just mean mentally, physically my body recoiled and snapped so often when it came into mind which was a lot). She told me that she couldn't tell me who it was in order to stop me doing something that would ruin my life and our life together, so she made up a story about a stranger. But she has had to interact with this person practically every day since it happened and she said to me she has learned to be fake and put on a face for any situation. I don't have a clue how she has done it or how she's still going. I have no idea how she feels or how it can make a person feel. Normally I can try and sympathise or empathise with her but I just can't here. And I don't know how to cope myself. We pride ourselves on how open and honest we are with each other in our relationship. It's one of the things that makes us work. We're so close and depend on each other so much. But she said that because she has had to pretend it didn't happen she has learned to make up anything about anything and make it believable. I could almost always tell a lie from her before, but here I had no clue. And I still don't know what she is telling me or has told me what is true and what's false. Obviously it's not her fault. She said it wasn't that she couldn't trust me to tell me but she knew it would break me. Life has been so difficult for us for some of the reasons above and lots of others. I'm working 2 jobs now to keep us going after she was made redundant and I'm exhausted but I know I have to keep going. But today after a 12.5 hour shift, I'm finished, and I don't want to go back. I don't know what to say to her. I don't know how to comfort her because I can't comfort myself or keep my head straight. How can I know how to help her? Before this happened I always tried to help her and talk to her about everything that she had difficulty with, but I knew it wasn't enough so I helped her to get counselling and she's still going to it, but I don't know how much that can help. I know I need to be there for her but don't know how. I've never not been able to talk to her but now I'm starting to question if I can keep doing this. Every time we start to get moving and things get a little easier something happens to force us to fight and struggle our way through, dragging ourselves on and nothing better. I know life can be like that but it just is constant. She's always had things tough and I don't know how she can keep going and keep the faith. She has always had to fight. She'd been suicidal on and off at best for the last year.

But I've always been sure about us and our future and yesterday I point blank said I don't know any more and I couldn't go back on it. I feel like this will cause an issue between us that we can't fix. She's always been a free spirit and has always trusted people and given them a chance. I've warned her about certain people she has come across and I have 90% of the time been right to distrust them. But now I know I won't ever want her to be near any man or men bevabec literally every single one that has claimed to be her friend has turned and told her to dump me, cheat on me with them, how much better they are than me, how they can fuck her better than me. This shit gets in on you over time. I could never see myself being a controlling person in a relationship before but now I know it's all I'll be. I said before at various points that I felt like I was the wrong person for her. That she needed someone tougher that wouldn't give anyone a chance to get close to her, that had more money and a better job and their own place, stability basically. Someone to properly look after her during her bad points. All I've been doing is working. I'm out for almost the entirety of 5 days a week minimum.

Anyway sorry for the wall of text and everything. I'm just so lost. I don't know where to go in life any more, I don't feel like trying when stuff like this happens to people like her. I want to throttle the person that did this and don't know how to stop myself because of what he did to her. She has had so much grief and trouble in the past few years and all she's had to do is struggle on. Finding those moments of happiness are so hard when this is what you have to expect is around the corner. I've tried suggesting she speaks to rape crisis centres but she doesn't want to. She has breached the subject with her counsellor but hasn't gone deep into it. I've been here for her all the time before, even if it took me time. This time I don't feel like I can and this is when she really needs me most, but I can't cope with it. Or with anything. I'm doubting the one thing I was sure about since I met her which is our future and I don't even feel like I can talk about or digest anything because of so much else going on and such little rest time between work and these other things. She's broken but has put up a wall but I don't know how I can help her, and I'm struggling to get myself just to the point of doing that.
 

Pagusas

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,876
Frisco, Tx
If she's having trouble talking about it even to you, are you sure posting about this on a message board is the best idea?
 

AuthenticM

Son Altesse Sérénissime
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
30,085
I'm so sorry. I would tell you to break the guy's legs, but I don't think it would make things better.

If she's having trouble talking about it even to you, are you sure posting about this on a message board is the best idea?

There aren't any names. Let OP talk about it.
 

Scullibundo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,691
If she's having trouble talking about it even to you, are you sure posting about this on a message board is the best idea?
It seems like the OP himself is also emotionally wrecked and burnt out. Let the dude vent if he's not revealing any names.

OP, that's very, very rough. I'm so sorry. You need to be open with her about all of this. Obviously try and do it when you're a little more rested and not off the back of a 12.5h shift where you're feeling mentally and physically overwhelmed.
 

Anti

Banned
Nov 22, 2017
2,972
Australia
M8 even if she doesn't want to report it that's the best option, being quiet about it's even worse in the long run. Also, kudos on the self control I wouldn't be able to control myself and not smash the face of the guy if it happened to my SO.
 
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Broken Joystick

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,932
England
She obviously trusts you enough to tell you about it and for you not to hurt the person who did it. Don't think that because she didn't tell you straight away she distrusts you, everyone interprets trauma differently. You're in a tough situation OP for a variety of reasons, but all I can advise is to keep working and aiming towards getting out of your situation without escalating to physical violence. I think you're doubting yourself and your feelings because of this situation, which is perfectly understandable, but you and your partner can pull through.

Could you possibly talk to your partner and get her and yourself to talk to your mother about it? That seems like it would be a step somewhere unless you know your mother will bat for the assaulter.
Is your partner absolutely sure she doesn't want to report it now? I understand the situation you're in would make it uncomfortable, but I guess it's worth asking.

In regards to what you can do to help; as said earlier, keeping working, keep being there for her, and do your best to make her safe. Life can be hard, you and your partner have certainly faced harder circumstances than most, but that should be a reason to stay together, not to fall apart. Just comfort her as best you can and work on getting out of there ASAP.
 

FullMetalTech

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,426
Brooklyn, New York
Has she gone to the authorities? I mean that's the only thing i can say is the safest route. Never know if this guy has a record of doing this and possible has/will do it to other women in future.
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
M8 even if she doesn't want to report it that's the best option, being quiet about it it's even worse in the long run. Also, kudos on the self control I wouldn't be able to control myself and not smash the face of the guy if it happened to mi SO.
Yeah, the guy's not gonna stop at one person.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,752
Norman, OK
Whew, this is a doozy. Sorry that you're having to go through this, OP. My two pennies:

Your girlfriend is going to need counseling. You may need some, too. You'll need to collect your thoughts, summon some energy and talk to her about this. She needs to know what you've put in your post. You need to extricate yourselves from the person that attacked her. Nothing is going to get better with continued exposure to him. Either mom needs to know what happened and un-invite the attacker, or you need to get yourselves out of there. Do not confront this person right now: the likelihood of a violent outcome would be very high- and I don't mean violent like your average bar fight. Someone would likely get badly hurt or possibly even killed, and it could become a life-altering event for both of you.

As for the relationship itself- it won't be able to work in the long run until after you do the above, IMO. You two will need to address some things individually before being able to function in a healthy relationship. You may well need some form of relationship counseling after you've properly unpacked the fallout from this event individually.
 

WedgeX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,200
Support is critical.

Professional supports also help:

RAINN has the National Sexual Assault Hotline - 800-656-4673

It's free, confidential, and professional.

https://www.rainn.org/get-help

If your (or her) insurance covers counseling/therapy, use those resources as well. Even as a partner, it can be useful to get right with yourself, process your own emotions, and learn to cope with seeing the after effects of trauma.

There may be additional non-profits focused on sexual assaults in your area. You may wish to research those as well.

Edit:
Latvian Hitman put the counseling piece better than I could.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I wouldn't feel great if I were sexually assaulted, then my partner goes and gets arrested on assault and battery and ends up in jail.
Yeah

Or If she explicitly doesn't want to go go the authorities and they go anyway without her approval. Rage is justified, anger is justified but at the end of the day leave how it's handled to her.
 

airjoca

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
805
Portugal
I'm sorry OP, can't imagine what this feels like.

Is there a chance it might happen again? Be there for your partner, slowly try to convince her to go to the authorities.
 

FUME5

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,421
Man, that's some heavy shit.

All I can say is you're a stronger man than me, I would have beaten the life out of him the first time I saw him.
 

Buzzman

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,549
Yeah

Or If she explicitly doesn't want to go go the authorities and they go anyway without her approval. Rage is justified, anger is justified but at the end of the day leave how it's handled to her.
I can't always accept this reasoning, if you have knowledge of a rapist on the loose, you should go to the police. If they've done it once, there's nothing stopping them from doing it again.
 

Wishbone Ash

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
3,849
Michigan
I can't even pretend to imagine what I'd do in this situation. Like you, I'd be instantly inclined to beat the fuck out that piece of shit, but I also know I'd be too afraid of the consequences.

I know you're trying to be there for her, and she might seem distant or belittling the issue, but give it time and it'll hopefully work out.
 

MoonScented

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
685
User banned (1 week): victim-blaming, misogyny, demonizing a sexual assault victim
I'm not going to address the the sexual assault situation, but just what I'm picking up on your relationship overall.

My advice, you need to end things and move on. This relationship is killing you with stress. For whatever reason, you're putting too much energy physically, emotionally, financially into this person and it seems like no matter how much you give you're constantly coming up short.

It also sounds to based on you saying she hangs around multiple guys that are telling her how that can fuck her better, provide better, etc that she doesn't respect you as a partner. I'm all for my s.o. having plutonic friends, but if my girl is consistently hanging around someone who is actively trying to fuck her then I have to become suspicious of her true intentions. You also mentioned how you can no longer tell if she's lying to you or not.

It's all bad, my friend. When you have to write that much venting about any relationship, it's almost 100% that it's time to move on. Focus on yourself. Work hard and save money for yourself. Remove the stress of this toxic situation and focus on your own health.
 

Viriditas

Member
Oct 25, 2017
809
United States
Whew, this is a doozy. Sorry that you're having to go through this, OP. My two pennies:

Your girlfriend is going to need counseling. You may need some, too. You'll need to collect your thoughts, summon some energy and talk to her about this. She needs to know what you've put in your post. You need to extricate yourselves from the person that attacked her. Nothing is going to get better with continued exposure to him. Either mom needs to know what happened and un-invite the attacker, or you need to get yourselves out of there. Do not confront this person right now: the likelihood of a violent outcome would be very high- and I don't mean violent like your average bar fight. Someone would likely get badly hurt or possibly even killed, and it could become a life-altering event for both of you.

As for the relationship itself- it won't be able to work in the long run until after you do the above, IMO. You two will need to address some things individually before being able to function in a healthy relationship. You may well need some form of relationship counseling after you've properly unpacked the fallout from this event individually.

Seconding all of this. Counseling is key. Getting out of the situation is key. If Mom will back you up, advocate for bringing her into the loop, but not unless your SO is on board with it. Get as much support as you can and try to be patient with yourselves and each other. You can get through this.
 

Deleted member 2533

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's why you wear a ski mask

Okay, tough guy.

It's a family friend. They know each other. Mask?

You don't know how the scenario can play out. This guy gets beat up, presses charges, then what's OP gonna do? Report his partner's assault that she isn't ready to talk about? Now OP's in jail, his GF's assaulter is free, she's stressed, she has to give a report on her sexual assault, she gets a detail wrong because she wasn't prepared emotionally and the dude walks because her story was inconsistent.
 

Scullibundo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,691
Seconding all of this. Counseling is key. Getting out of the situation is key. If Mom will back you up, advocate for bringing her into the loop, but not unless your SO is on board with it. Get as much support as you can and try to be patient with yourselves and each other. You can get through this.
OP already stated that his gf sees a counselor already.
 

Bakercat

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,154
'merica
I'm not gonna lie, she's going to have to face her attackers more than likely if she presses charges, even if she's far away. Not saying she shouldn't, but it will be expected. Stay beside her and work with her through all of this and hopefully she can gather enough strength to proceed with charges. Who knows if she's the only one or there are many others who this person has attacked. She can stand up now and keep others from being attacked as well, but only when she's ready. I hope things go well for you both OP, I'm sorry this happened.
 

Viriditas

Member
Oct 25, 2017
809
United States
I'm all for my s.o. having plutonic friends, but if my girl is consistently hanging around someone who is actively trying to fuck her then I have to become suspicious of her true intentions.

Yikes. What a take.

Here's another: Women constantly have to deal with men treating them this way under the guise of "friendship" whether they want it or not. Whether they've expressed disinterest or not. Whether they've asked the friend to stop or not.

Many women have learned that setting firm boundaries about it results in ostracization, being called a bitch, or worse. Much worse.

Many people, whether they would explicitly say so or not, tend to normalize this dynamic, such that when a woman does speak up about the harassment, she isn't exactly guaranteed support from her friends, family, or community.

In my experience, it's usually the opposite -- insisting on being treated as a person gets you labeled abrasive, intimidating, and difficult. It can cost you personal and professional opportunities.

It's just not that simple. There can be a lot of context to consider when responding to some creep's unwanted advances. Different people respond to harassment differently. Let's keep the suspicion and the burden of change aimed squarely where they belong: on the creepy bastards themselves, rather than the women they target.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,507
I'm so sorry. At the very least this man can't be allowed to walk away from this scot-free, if he attempted to do this to her it might happen again or to someone else. I don't know what to say if she doesn't want to report it right now, respect whatever she decides. If I was in your shoes I wouldn't be able to think rationally either. As much as stomping his head in would feel like justice, it's only going to make shit worse for your girlfriend when she needs you need to be there for her.

You two will get through this one step at a time, day by day, and hopefully this pos loses his freedom. Best wishes, OP.
 

_id

Banned
Apr 18, 2018
212

How about no. Op as much as you probably want to break the guys jaw or whatever for what he's done to your girl try to resist the urge because you don't want to land yourself in jail. If you're in jail for assault or for whatever other reason that will just leave your girl even more vulnerable than she probably is now. I would report the incident to the authorities and maybe tell the guy not to come around until further notice but don't tell him why just say it's private. This is sad to hear but you can only help those that want to help themselves so you can't really force anything. I would take some time away from and just reflect on things and maybe consider what's really important right now.
 

gozu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,341
America
Obviously, you should report this to the authorities. If he's reported before or after by another victim, also willing to testify, 2 combined testimonies make for an ironclad case when 1 testimony would be his word vs hers. It's like vegeta + goku = vegito level of testimony.

If she doesn't want to get out of her bad situation, then you need to give her an ultimatum and be prepared to bail on ur relationship. It's very sad but sometimes we must swallow bitter pills. Especially when they cure cancer of the heart.

Best of luck in this trying time.
 

Deleted member 23850

Oct 28, 2017
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Damn. I would have easily best the guy to a bloody pulp. Good luck.
 

Deleted member 2761

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Okay, the most important thing you can do for her is to respect her wishes. She, as the survivor, is the most important person here, not the offender, and certainly not you. Reporting him or beating the shit out of him might make you feel better, but she has flat out stated that is not what she wants. Give her some control of her life: she has trusted you, so do not betray her faith.

You are understandably upset and frustrated, but the best thing you can do for her is make sure she knows that you are there for her, through thick and thin, and that she knows that if she needs something, even if it means she wants to be alone, you will do that. If she wants your opinion, give it frankly, but do not insist on your course of action. I also understand the impatience, but there is no magical solution that will make things all right again overnight.

While it might be a bitter pill to swallow, the greatest and most admirable thing you can do for her in this situation is to be truly selfless, and put your own feelings aside and hers first.
 

Ashes

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
390
Op, try and be present; be supportive.
And it may take a while, but realise that nothing has really happened to you. This injustice has happened to your partner.
Ideally, it is time to learn the values of a support role, and be that as best as you can be.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,701
DFW
All of you people suggesting he reports this to police are out of your damn minds: that's her choice, because cooperating in sexual assault prosecutions as a victim-witness is NOT fun.

OP's girlfriend just had her trust (and more) violated by one man in her life — let's not make it two in a row.

Edit: OP, you can possibly do her a favor by writing down (so you can remember) the way in which she described the assault and the exact words she used. It's possible that it could help in an eventual prosecution (as admissible hearsay going to her state of mind or as an excited utterance, or to rebut claims of inconsistent statements). Not guaranteed, but it's a concrete step you could do.
 

RoyaleDuke

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,397
Nowhere
All I can say is that I hope you and her can recover, and it will take time.

Report their ass, after you and your gf are ready.
 

Ephidel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,738
Let's start with the basics.

This is not about you.

This happened to her

She's been dealing with it. She has shared it with you because she trusts you, and because she felt ready to.
That would have been a difficult thing for her to do.

Your primary job now is to be supportive.

You do not get to control her life because someone else did something to her. That is hers. She can be friends with whoever she wants, and you have to back off and deal.Whether or not she has had problems with guys before means nothing and you should be careful about insinuating that it does.

She needs you to support her, not blame her.

And it might sound trite, but looking at the way you're talking and the things other people in this thread are saying I feel it needs stating: Violence Is Not The Answer.
Beating the guy up will not help anyone If nothing else will sway you, consider the fact that you would be done for assault, it would not be considered justified because no charges have actually been lodged against him, and if you get sent away that will fuck up your life.

And on the subject of "your life" let's move on to your secondary job now: Take care of yourself.

Yes yes, I know I said that this isn't about you, but it is affecting you, and you need to take steps to get on top of that.

See a counsellor.
Dealing with things like this can be mentally and physically exhausting.
It is clearly affecting you and your mindset. It's upsetting you, it's poisoning the way you look at your relationship, and triggering toxic and violent thoughts that you need help dealing with.
Knowing when you need help and taking steps to get it is a sign of strength, not a sign of weakness, and you should do that.

You could also consider going to see a counsellor with her, but you really should go to see one to help cope with your own issues with this first.

Now there are also a bunch of things it is not your job to do:
Tell her what to do.
Tell her how to deal with it.
Glare at every man in her life.
Be overprotective.
Be controlling.
Threaten anyone with violence.
Perpetrate any violence (yes, I know I already said this)
Report it to the police.
Pressure her into reporting it to the police.

"What's that?" I hear you say "Did you just say don't report it to the police?"

Yes. I did.

It is not your decision.

Reporting sexual assaults and rapes is not easy.
It is something that is only to be done if and when someone is ready to do so, if and when they are up to that.

"But he could do it to someone else! You could prevent that!"

That is not your responsibility.
If
he assaults someone else that is his fault. Not yours, not your girlfriends, his and only his.

Now your girlfriend may, at some point, decide she does feel up to reporting it and then yes, yes yes yes yes yes, she should be supported in that.
But it needs to be her decision. Trying to pressure her into it will only make her feel worse and that is not something she needs right now.
 

Chris.

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,920
I think the best thing to do is to report it.. can't keep quiet about it that's only gonna make it harder for her everytime she sees him and it's not right for him to be walking scot free and possibly doing it to other women (but I realise that's probably the last thing on your minds right now, understandably). But this should be her choice not yours

Also, as much as you want to beat the shit out of him. Don't do it. Your girlfriend is going through enough nevermind risking something happening to you.

Not really sure what else to say.. hope you guys can get through this and he faces justice somehow.
 
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NateDog

NateDog

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Jan 8, 2018
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Thank you all for the replies, I really appreciate it and so many of you taking the time to read my post, apologies for how messy it probably is. I will reply to some quotes that I can but I do need to get some sleep before another long day tomorrow of work so I can't reply to all but I have read all of them and am grateful for each one.
M8 even if she doesn't want to report it that's the best option, being quiet about it's even worse in the long run. Also, kudos on the self control I wouldn't be able to control myself and not smash the face of the guy if it happened to my SO.
I have felt this too which is a part I am struggling with. I don't want to do this and put her in that situation but I feel like it is something I ought to do, but breaking her trust is something I don't feel I can do especially as she is the victim. She didn't go into detail yet but said she is convinced this person never did it before and regrets it. (Not that I'd believe that or care even if true, it makes no difference.)
Could you possibly talk to your partner and get her and yourself to talk to your mother about it? That seems like it would be a step somewhere unless you know your mother will bat for the assaulter.
Is your partner absolutely sure she doesn't want to report it now? I understand the situation you're in would make it uncomfortable, but I guess it's worth asking.
Unfortunately as you guessed I believe my mother would defend him. She is just as untrustworthy.
I wouldn't feel great if I were sexually assaulted, then my partner goes and gets arrested on assault and battery and ends up in jail.
This is what's holding me back on doing anything to him. In fact it never crossed my mind that hurting him would have further consequences for her until she said the very same to me.
Whew, this is a doozy. Sorry that you're having to go through this, OP. My two pennies:

Your girlfriend is going to need counseling. You may need some, too. You'll need to collect your thoughts, summon some energy and talk to her about this. She needs to know what you've put in your post. You need to extricate yourselves from the person that attacked her. Nothing is going to get better with continued exposure to him. Either mom needs to know what happened and un-invite the attacker, or you need to get yourselves out of there. Do not confront this person right now: the likelihood of a violent outcome would be very high- and I don't mean violent like your average bar fight. Someone would likely get badly hurt or possibly even killed, and it could become a life-altering event for both of you.

As for the relationship itself- it won't be able to work in the long run until after you do the above, IMO. You two will need to address some things individually before being able to function in a healthy relationship. You may well need some form of relationship counseling after you've properly unpacked the fallout from this event individually.
We're doing our best to get out of here as we have been doing for what has unfortunately become a long time now, just not very hopeful over it with the way things have been going.
Yikes. What a take.

Here's another: Women constantly have to deal with men treating them this way under the guise of "friendship" whether they want it or not. Whether they've expressed disinterest or not. Whether they've asked the friend to stop or not.

Many women have learned that setting firm boundaries about it results in ostracization, being called a bitch, or worse. Much worse.

Many people, whether they would explicitly say so or not, tend to normalize this dynamic, such that when a woman does speak up about the harassment, she isn't exactly guaranteed support from her friends, family, or community.

In my experience, it's usually the opposite -- insisting on being treated as a person gets you labeled abrasive, intimidating, and difficult. It can cost you personal and professional opportunities.

It's just not that simple. There can be a lot of context to consider when responding to some creep's unwanted advances. Different people respond to harassment differently. Let's keep the suspicion and the burden of change aimed squarely where they belong: on the creepy bastards themselves, rather than the women they target.
This is a good response. We don't have any issues, she isn't someone I distrust, she's the opposite. But she has had shitty people come into her life a lot from differing places and she hasn't seen it as they hide their true selves until they see she trusts them, or at least gives them a chance to gain trust.
Okay, the most important thing you can do for her is to respect her wishes. She, as the survivor, is the most important person here, not the offender, and certainly not you. Reporting him or beating the shit out of him might make you feel better, but she has flat out stated that is not what she wants. Give her some control of her life: she has trusted you, so do not betray her faith.

You are understandably upset and frustrated, but the best thing you can do for her is make sure she knows that you are there for her, through thick and thin, and that she knows that if she needs something, even if it means she wants to be alone, you will do that. If she wants your opinion, give it frankly, but do not insist on your course of action. I also understand the impatience, but there is no magical solution that will make things all right again overnight.

While it might be a bitter pill to swallow, the greatest and most admirable thing you can do for her in this situation is to be truly selfless, and put your own feelings aside and hers first.
Thank you. I have wanted to and still do want to report it but I know it's not something I can really do, and if I do it will be me betraying her trust significantly. I still simultaneously feel like I ought to report it because we'll get to a situation down the line where she will say it's too late (or it will be) but I know it can't get to that. But thank you for our last piece of advice in particular, I have tried to be strong for her and be there for her before through her health issues which was a completely different situation but multiple times I felt I was close to losing her, and it wasn't me that this happened to, so I need to be better. I just don't know how I can do it right now. Every time a glimpse of peacefulness appears for us something horrible happens.
 

gaiages

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man so many pieces of "helpful" advice disregarding the survivor's wishes

Sure hope no one ever needs to rely on y'all for actual support of something like this.

I'm not going to address the the sexual assault situation, but just what I'm picking up on your relationship overall.

My advice, you need to end things and move on. This relationship is killing you with stress. For whatever reason, you're putting too much energy physically, emotionally, financially into this person and it seems like no matter how much you give you're constantly coming up short.

It also sounds to based on you saying she hangs around multiple guys that are telling her how that can fuck her better, provide better, etc that she doesn't respect you as a partner. I'm all for my s.o. having plutonic friends, but if my girl is consistently hanging around someone who is actively trying to fuck her then I have to become suspicious of her true intentions. You also mentioned how you can no longer tell if she's lying to you or not.

It's all bad, my friend. When you have to write that much venting about any relationship, it's almost 100% that it's time to move on. Focus on yourself. Work hard and save money for yourself. Remove the stress of this toxic situation and focus on your own health.

SO: "I'm freaking out, I almost got raped by something i trusted"
OP if he follows your shit advice: "This stress is too much, I'm breaking up with you"

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
 

Necromanti

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Oct 25, 2017
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I would say the first thing you two need to do is get out of the environment where you have to interact with this person on a regular basis.
 
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NateDog

NateDog

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Let's start with the basics.

This is not about you.

This happened to her

She's been dealing with it. She has shared it with you because she trusts you, and because she felt ready to.
That would have been a difficult thing for her to do.

Your primary job now is to be supportive.

You do not get to control her life because someone else did something to her. That is hers. She can be friends with whoever she wants, and you have to back off and deal.Whether or not she has had problems with guys before means nothing and you should be careful about insinuating that it does.

She needs you to support her, not blame her.

And it might sound trite, but looking at the way you're talking and the things other people in this thread are saying I feel it needs stating: Violence Is Not The Answer.
Beating the guy up will not help anyone If nothing else will sway you, consider the fact that you would be done for assault, it would not be considered justified because no charges have actually been lodged against him, and if you get sent away that will fuck up your life.

And on the subject of "your life" let's move on to your secondary job now: Take care of yourself.

Yes yes, I know I said that this isn't about you, but it is affecting you, and you need to take steps to get on top of that.

See a counsellor.
Dealing with things like this can be mentally and physically exhausting.
It is clearly affecting you and your mindset. It's upsetting you, it's poisoning the way you look at your relationship, and triggering toxic and violent thoughts that you need help dealing with.
Knowing when you need help and taking steps to get it is a sign of strength, not a sign of weakness, and you should do that.

You could also consider going to see a counsellor with her, but you really should go to see one to help cope with your own issues with this first.

Now there are also a bunch of things it is not your job to do:
Tell her what to do.
Tell her how to deal with it.
Glare at every man in her life.
Be overprotective.
Be controlling.
Threaten anyone with violence.
Perpetrate any violence (yes, I know I already said this)
Report it to the police.
Pressure her into reporting it to the police.

"What's that?" I hear you say "Did you just say don't report it to the police?"

Yes. I did.

It is not your decision.

Reporting sexual assaults and rapes is not easy.
It is something that is only to be done if and when someone is ready to do so, if and when they are up to that.

"But he could do it to someone else! You could prevent that!"

That is not your responsibility.
If
he assaults someone else that is his fault. Not yours, not your girlfriends, his and only his.

Now your girlfriend may, at some point, decide she does feel up to reporting it and then yes, yes yes yes yes yes, she should be supported in that.
But it needs to be her decision. Trying to pressure her into it will only make her feel worse and that is not something she needs right now.
Thanks for the post and advice. Seeing so many people tell me to stop thinking about myself is helping me to put things into perspective slowly. It's just the anger and fear that's making it all difficult. I feel like I'm to blame for this. But there have been so many instances of guys hitting on her repeatedly that I feel like this is my fault because I should have done something about it over time but she always told me to stay out of it to help her learn to deal with it so I respected it and didn't get involved, but it just made me so paranoid over time when it happened so often. I felt like my not getting involved made those guys feel empowered and that they could do anything without repercussion from me, but maybe that had nothing to do with me and is more about men and how entitled so many feel they are. It sounds like a patriarchal trope but I felt like without my stepping in over them they just took free reign. That's why I feel like not being controlling will be almost impossible. It's not me nor is it something I ever want to do to her. I love how much faith in the universe and in people she has, it's one of the things I admire most about her but it comes through as naievete at times because she doesn't believe someone could be so bad to do or feel or think X or that more than one person could be that way. But I know similarly putting her in a bubble won't help. Just like I know telling her to try not ever trust men will only end up in her hiding stuff from me and that'll be my fault and it'll just end up with us breaking. I just don't know how to keep her away from people like this. It hasn't just been one. Just about 1-2 months after we met she was heading to college and this guy comes up and hits on her and starts bring all handsy with her. Suddenly he's on her bus each morning (even though she left at different times most days and went from another county) and would seek her out, sit next to her and put his hands on her legs. She didn't know how to deal with it so she asked him not to do it but he kept going until I made sure I was there to greet them getting off it one day and he darted away as quick as possible. But there have been about 4 or 5 other guys since then that keep trying, probably because they feel like she's too nice to stop them. I just fucking hate men. I feel like I can barely trust my own friends now just because they're men even though I know they're nothing like that.

Anyway, sorry, feels like I'm doing it again. I'll do my best to stop letting my anger put myself in the spotlight and just keep trying to get to a point where I can see how much she has had to deal with properly and try and actually be better and help her.
Had something similar happen earlier this year and therapy has gone a long way. It's difficult to let go of anger.
I'm really sorry to hear that. How are both of you coping now? Honestly I feel like I want and need therapy too but I can't afford it. It's been hard to afford it for her but I knew she needed it desperately so I made sure I could but it's too expensive for me to do it as well.

We talked last night, if only for a short while since I couldn't stay awake long. She was a little annoyed I was on my phone after I said I had to sleep but I knew I had to read any replies here. It helped a bit anyway, I'm beginning to calm a little but I fear a lot of that is down to me not seeing that person for a few days but that also makes me more fearful for that. I've tried to get her to go to stay with family members for a time at least to get her away but she said she won't do it. But we're talking a bit more now like we used to about everything so I'm getting there very slowly but I listened to her more last night so I feel like she felt somewhat better for telling me more. She still has to tell me the real details about it all which is a talk I think will send me back the wrong way but I will try to deal with it only being there for her.
 

itsgreen

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'd say try to convince your girlfriend she needs to press charges.

Don't do anything without her even though pressing charges is the right thing to do, she must want to do it. I can imagine if you made a choice for her she would be very upset to be put in a position she doesn't want to be in.

And obviously be supportive in her choices. Don't press her on it.
 

Thirty7ven

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Jan 18, 2018
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User Banned (1 Week): Advocating Violence + Promoting toxic masculinity constructs
First, stop working so much. No kids to feed and currently living with family? Just stop. Over twelve hours a day? You need to stop. Considering you are working two jobs, this most certainly means it's not the kind of job where most of the time you sit on your ass talking to colleagues about the woman from 12th floor having asked if she could park her ass next to you during lunch.

A lot people here will tell you how your "job" is to support her, that you have to respect her wishes, that it's not your place to tell her what to do, violence is not the way etc etc

I would like to actually be a human being and not some robot who spews unrealistic bullshit best left for dating advice.

You know who he is? Report him to the authorities. She won't go along with it? Ok, fine. It is your duty to confront this man, otherwise you will feel weak and stop respecting yourself. Violence is not the way? I'm not saying you get yourself a baseball bat, wait him up and crack one knee... but you better find a way to deal some punishment to this guy, be it by way of shaming him in front of his peers or by any other means that you believe won't get you more than a night's worth of jail.

Moral compass? Just deal the card that says if nobody does anything, other women will suffer.

Aside from that, this a woman that according to you, is constantly in a position of weakness and then asks you to be weak with her. Be it with men, work, health. It's time you start demanding more, because you expect more than this miserable existence.

Her suffering becomes your suffering, her misery becomes your misery. If she's unwilling to let your will and your strenght become hers, so that together you can change and prevent similar problems from occuring, then it's time to let her go on her own and find some other poor bastard carrying her baggage.

It's my advice to you, you who ask for help, and I hope that somehow I can lend you some life and you get yourself out of this situation.

Be brave.