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The Expanse - Season 3 - “It's a Legitimate Salvage”
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Going by Ty Franck*, co-writer of the books and a writer on the Show, the Amazon order of episodes will be 10, down from the 13 we've been getting.
But assume that the episodes themselves will be longer than the current commercial filled episodes.
*From the most recent "The Churn" podcast.
But assume that the episodes themselves will be longer than the current commercial filled episodes.
*From the most recent "The Churn" podcast.
If we get one-hour episodes we'll end up with an even longer season, I think, so that's all right.
Feels like she would. She got to the point of recognizing that while they were stuck there, the rest of the ship was leaderless and in chaos. Knowing she was already injured (probably moreso than Ashford), she took on a much more serious injury to free up the 2nd in command for the good of the ship.
That much altruism tells me she'd recognize the need for spinning up the drum, and she'd recognize that everyone else in the bubble would need it as well.
There's also the possibility of Ashford (and theoretically Drummer), deciding to invite everyone else to the Behemoth, before Mars/Earth decided to invade and take over the Behemoth for themselves.
In this situation, Gravity is as important a resource, as water and food are.
Sneak Peak
But, it's a gigantic doozy of one, like, it's surprising they'd talk about this here.
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<3 Drummer. Knowing that Bobby wasn't with the drop ship in the book to get Holden makes me wonder how all of that played out. Did they still have the same back and forth about executing him?
I don't think so, they were going straight for the kill. Also, I'm pretty sure they didn't take Holden with them either.
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Did Amazon get the international rights then? Cause if Space still has the Canadian rights they'll likely stick to the 43 minute runtime so Space can run their ads just like CBS does with Star Trek Discovery cause Space has the Canadian rights for it.
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Don't know if anything has been announced for international airing.
Try to keep book talk behind spoiler bars, please.
I don't think Holden was catatonic for very long after "touching" the system. Sure, they tried to kill him right off the bat, but once mechanized walking things came out, and their grenade tossing LT got dematerialized, they were ok with just "noping" the hell out of there with Holden. But they pretty much treated him coldly on the way back to the other ships.
Also on board the Ashford liking - although still dubious. We'll see.
Really fond of how the show focuses on the effects of gravity and its absence on things like blood. This episode was great for it.
(couldnae resist sorry)
Really fond of how the show focuses on the effects of gravity and its absence on things like blood. This episode was great for it.
(couldnae resist sorry)
Given that it's not entirely clear he is an antagonist in the show your comment is effectively a spoiler. Keep the goddamn book talk in fucking spoiler tags jfc.
I thought it was abundantly clear that he was an antagonist. It's just now, we don't know if he is anymore. Not a book reader, btw.
He is only set up at once initially, since he is in opposition to Drummer, and Drummer is depicted as sympathetic. But besides being a bit of an arrogant jerkass, he has done nothing to actually make him an antagonist from the plot's point of view. In fact besides not respecting Drummer's rule he is depicted as making more sense than Drummer. So no, he is not clearly an antagonist.
And by commenting on him being a cartoon villain, we now know that in the books at least he is likely an antagonist from the plot's point of view. Unless they change that in the TV show, it's a spoiler, and it has nothing to do in this thread.
In the plot's view, he is the antagonist to our protagonist which was Naomi and Drummer and now just Drummer. Doesn't matter if he is right sometimes or gives sound advice, he was positioned against Drummer. We were certainly not supposed to trust him when he was introduced. But after this last episode, things may change.
Anna doesnt know about zero g wounds yet can handle a MMU? They must have designed that thing with some really intuitive controls lol.
As a TV only viewer I definitely didnt view him as a straight up antagonist. He's even less of one now. Regardless that book comparison should have been behind tags. Any book talk really.
Think the ratings have been going up ever since Syfy announced it's cancellation. 670k viewers for the last episode, 55k more than the previous week, 136k more than the same episode in Season 2 (2x11), and the most viewers since the season 2 premiere.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/8sv903/ratings_report_the_expanse_moves_up_big_018/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/8sv903/ratings_report_the_expanse_moves_up_big_018/
Yeah, they said as much in this most recent episode. Hard to heal in Zero-G, but the Spinning Drum creates a little bit of gravity (1/3rd of normal), so bringing injured people to the Behemoth to heal is the right thing to do.
Mhm, that's why so many folks in the infirmary were pretty much goners. Internal bleeding is a death sentence in zero G.
Those ratings are so good btw. Well, relatively speaking...
Man this season is killing it. I love the attention to detail, and even the quieter moments on the Behemoth were so good!
Can someone remind me what the previous "speed limit" was inside the ring, and what it changed to? I may have mis-read but I thought the change was so huge that it would squish even people who were buckled in.
Can someone remind me what the previous "speed limit" was inside the ring, and what it changed to? I may have mis-read but I thought the change was so huge that it would squish even people who were buckled in.
Yeah, same. I thought it was crazy of all people to come to her rescue it was Anna.
From memory, I think the original speed limit was something like 18,000 (but I'm not sure if that's in meters per second or miles per hour), but now it's something like 28 meters per second. Which, according to google conversion, is 62 mph. Goddam that's slow.
Which, if it'll take 7 months to get back to the ring, means that the distance from the station orbit they're at, to the ring, is about 300,000 miles (7 months=210ish days=5040 hours x 62 miles per hour.) That's inside the distance between the earth and the moon.
If it was the original speed limit was 18,000 meters a second, that same 300k distance would take something like 7 hours.
Neither, it was 18,000 km/h, which is 5,000 m/s. Meaning a deceleration at devastating, but survivable 15 g (or 147.15 m/s²) should've taken 33.79 seconds. I don't now, though, if anyone was actually going at the speed limit at that time.
If we calculate the other way, saying 28 m/s is the new speed limit and everyone was decelrated at the same 15 g for 2 seconds, the max speed of any vessel with survivors should be ~ 320 m/s or 1160 km/h (721 mph).
Oh yeah, and everyone at speed limit was decelerated at 253.5 g. That doesn't sound too healthy.
Just as an aside, I don't think silly Imperial units are used a lot in the Expanse (but I might remember that wrong) ;)
oh, I'm sure Imperial's probably not involved, but I and plenty other people are mentally stuck on it. I can't tell you how "fast" 100 km/h is, but I can "feel" how fast 70 mph is. Amurica.
I do know, as a message in the book, the deceleration occurred over a time period of 5 seconds.
I was also thinking of how fast the bullets would need to be going, to be stopped. But also thinking, they were fired before the grenade, which is what caused the slowdown. So those bullets would have only been going 18000 kmh. Which, I think, is faster than Bullets on earth go anyway. Basically, it feels kind of like an error. The fastest bullet seems to go about 4,000 feet per second, which is 4300 km/h, about 1/4th of the original speed limit.
But then, it was Martian bullets, and maybe they go really fast.
I do know, as a message in the book, the deceleration occurred over a time period of 5 seconds.
I was also thinking of how fast the bullets would need to be going, to be stopped. But also thinking, they were fired before the grenade, which is what caused the slowdown. So those bullets would have only been going 18000 kmh. Which, I think, is faster than Bullets on earth go anyway. Basically, it feels kind of like an error. The fastest bullet seems to go about 4,000 feet per second, which is 4300 km/h, about 1/4th of the original speed limit.
But then, it was Martian bullets, and maybe they go really fast.
Ah, 5 seconds, that looked much more instantaneous in the series. I thought I was being generous with 2 seconds.
With that amount of time, everyone should've gone at 764 m/s / 2750 km/h / 1708 mph before to be decelerated at 15 g. I now remember that they said they were going at 33% below the old speed limit, which would mean they were decelerated at 68 g. Which still isn't really survivable. Well, anyway, you've got a good point with the bullets. They must've gone really fast.
With that amount of time, everyone should've gone at 764 m/s / 2750 km/h / 1708 mph before to be decelerated at 15 g. I now remember that they said they were going at 33% below the old speed limit, which would mean they were decelerated at 68 g. Which still isn't really survivable. Well, anyway, you've got a good point with the bullets. They must've gone really fast.
He was clearly an antagonist. Naomi's and Drummer's reaction to him cements that. Now was he a villain? Not as he was depicted in the show.
It was Ana with some electroshock therapy
The thing is, the bullets got caught before the new speed limit, and the old speed limit is 3-4 times faster than the earth's current fastest bullet. Holden should have still been shot.
Only thing I'm not really sure on, is if you get stuck going "too fast", does the limit bring you down to a "stop" and then pull you in at an even slower speed than the limit. Then maybe that could explain why Holden didn't get perforated.
Ah yes, you're right. But I think the second paragraph is the answer, because the slingshotter went through the ring rather slowly. If he would have went through at 18,000 km/h, you wouldn't have seen it going through.
Ah! I totally didn't catch that! Couldn't tell it was her, and had no idea she could've/would've chased her down.
The whole healing thing at zero G blew my mind, I never realized that was a thing.
Also, deceleration causing a huge catastrophe is another really cool event that would never be possible in another pieces of media. They always find really interesting story developments that revolve around the science.
Also, deceleration causing a huge catastrophe is another really cool event that would never be possible in another pieces of media. They always find really interesting story developments that revolve around the science.
Makes me think, maybe Holden (back in Episode 1) had timed the "rendezvous" to take place during the flip portion of the Canterbury trip (the halfway point where the ship goes from accelerating towards the location, and flipping to decelerate to the location, meaning a small moment of Zero G time). Just to get in some Zero-G action.
I kind of think it ties into her arc, of not just being a pastor (a role that's basically there to help/care for people), but also tie into whatever form of guilt she has for that officer who killed himself (and maybe for past issues, like her protest work in the past with the UN AG). Maybe she feels like she has the duty to try and get to Melba, to bring her back from the abyss.
Episode was really great, the display of the havoc of the sudden stop plus the lack of gravity.
But I am not really a fan the way they portrait the Hub Station. I don't know, feel cheap.
But I am not really a fan the way they portrait the Hub Station. I don't know, feel cheap.
Yep I feel the same, it kind of feels tiny and low budget unlike post protomolecule Eros station. Infact I feel the same for the entire slow zone. The light blue glow just looks cheap, in the books it's a completely black starless void.
I think they wanted to differentiate it a bit from normal space and hence the blue edges, but they could have used a higher budget. Ah well atleast they'll have that next season with Amazon.
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