NISA Details the patches coming to Ys VIII Switch following launch

Theswweet · Jun 21, 2018

Figured this was worth its own thread, we knew 3 patches were coming but now we have some more details concerning the what and when.

http://nisamerica.com/blog/ys-viii-lacrimosa-dana-nintendo-switch

If you can't view the blog post;

NISA said:
Thank you for your support and excitement for Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA for Nintendo Switch. We wanted to outline the schedule for the upcoming patches, which we previously had communicated were coming soon, to address known text refinements and other issues. Due to the worldwide release of Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA, optimization was the top priority during development, and continues to be our focus.

You can check back to this page anytime to see the current status on the following items below:

Patch v1.01
Short Description: Fixes include adjustment to Nintendo Switch auto-sleep function, incorrect icons displaying, and text refinements.
Current Status: Ready for Launch
Actual Live Date: June 26

Patch v1.02
Short Description: Addressing crash issues, some aesthetic issues, and text refinements.
Current Status: Testing Round 2
Expected Live Date: Launch week

Patch v1.03
Short Description: Text refinements.
Current Status: Testing Round 1
Expected Live Date: Week after launch

Patch v1.04
Short Description: Japanese Voice Implementation and aesthetic refinements during cutscenes.
Current Status: Testing Round 1
Expected Live Date: Mid July 2018

If you are unsure what the statuses mean, you can see the Status workflow written below:

• Planning
• Development
• Testing Round 1
• Testing Round 2
• Ready for Launch

We will continue to update this schedule as new information comes in, and intend to keep this information as clear as possible while we implement these planned patches. Thank you again for your support.

TL;DR - 3 patches working on fixing technical issues will roll out starting launch, and hopefully will all be sorted by the week after launch. There will be a 4th patch working on cutscene performance that will also bring with it Japanese VO. Japanese voices aren't on the cart/initial download and will be a non-optional patch.

Mezoly · Jun 21, 2018

Not to be overtly negative but this is bad. The game is a port, it should have all or most of those patches day one.

ShinobiBk · Jun 21, 2018

Interesting, it's almost as if they should've delayed the game a month and hammered out these issues before they launched the game.

Wouldn't hold my breath on those patches being timely given this games history either

Comic Obsessed · Jun 21, 2018

Seems like things are going to be corrected quickly.

Brat-Sampson · Jun 21, 2018

So... give it a week, at least.

Good to know in advance, but still pretty disappointing.

Funny Valentine · Jun 21, 2018

Congrats Switch owners on getting a fully optimized game by mid-July maybe. NIS America is a joke.

Carthago Delenda Est · Jun 21, 2018

This puts a damper on my potential desire to buy this game.

Dreamboum · Jun 21, 2018

NISA has been an absolute shitshow for nearly a year. I can't believe I don't have access to a single version of Ys 8 that is satisfactory. I'm positive NISA and Falcom won't be getting my business anytime soon.

Yunyo · Jun 21, 2018

Uh am I reading this right? There are crash issues in the game? And cutscenes will potentially have issues being borked?

Xavi · Jun 21, 2018

Haha fuck off NISA, what an absolute shitshow

Sun's Resting Place · Jun 21, 2018

ShinobiBk said:
Interesting, it's almost as if they should've delayed the game a month and hammered out these issues before they launched the game.

Wouldn't hold my breath on those patches being timely given this games history either

They did the exact same shit with Ys 8 PC, delaying it by months and months and months and it still launched with shitloads of problems and graphical glitches, some of which are still on the PC version.

Ys 8 deserves better than this. NISA, you should have just let XSEED get this instead of forcibly outbidding them even when they wanted it and promising the world to Falcom, and then failing to deliver multiple times.

The localization being garbage and needing to be completely overhauled after launch on PS4 with all the dialogue being re-recorded? Bad, but forgivable. At least the game itself wasn't buggy because it wasn't an NISA port, it was just the original game.

Delaying the PC version for a huge amount of time and STILL releasing a super buggy product on top of that? Now, that's worse. Plus, a lot of the issues remain unfixed.

Having the SWITCH version, coming out months after the super-delayed PC version, ALSO needing multiple post-launch patches to fix crashing and graphical/cutscene issues, on top of everything else?

Fuck off, NISA. I was worried about you localizing what turned out to be, even with all this bullshit, one of my favorite JRPGs of all time, and my worries were not unfounded.

Yasumi · Jun 21, 2018

Japanese voices aren't even on there initially? For a mandatory patch, that's going to be stupidly massive.
Most of those issues are things that should be fixed in a single patch, or shouldn't be issues that require patching in the first place. What a trainwreck.

Renna Hazel · Jun 21, 2018

So...I guess I wont start this until the third patch is out. Kind of annoying.

Deleted member 16876 · Jun 21, 2018

Dreamboum said:
NISA has been an absolute shitshow for nearly a year. I can't believe I don't have access to a single version of Ys 8 that is satisfactory. I'm positive NISA and Falcom won't be getting my business anytime soon.

Same here.

NISA has been one of the most annoying companies I have ever seen. They grab everything but screw it up in someway.

I really hope Falcom doesn't do business with them in the future because they can't keep up with the quality XSEED had.

Mauricio_Magus · Jun 21, 2018

The PC version of this game is still a mess, I at least expected the Switch version to come out okay.

What a joke of a company, will not support them.

Sun's Resting Place · Jun 21, 2018

Dreamboum said:
NISA has been an absolute shitshow for nearly a year. I can't believe I don't have access to a single version of Ys 8 that is satisfactory. I'm positive NISA and Falcom won't be getting my business anytime soon.

The PS4 version remains the best version. It's not buggy like the NISA ports, it has the localization re-do, and it's the original game by Falcom so there's no meddling on NISA's part outside of the localization itself.

Even then, there are still missing words and typos even after all these months of supposed work on the 'redone' localization.

SheriffMcDuck · Jun 21, 2018

I love YS 8, and I don't want to be overly critical, but this and the PS4/PC release are the exact reasons I am hoping that XSeed got Trails of Cold Steel 3.

I started the game on PS4 and got up to Hummel then heard about the mega patches incoming and stopped playing. I've never made it back.

It stinks because NISA were one of my favorite localization teams when Guided Fate Paradox came over. It's a shame the sequel didn't live up.

I know they're working hard and I really appreciate all of the work put in, but they have to realize something isn't right.

Deleted member 31092 · Jun 21, 2018

I appreciate their transparency, but it honestly doesn't make a day 1 purchase inviting.

That being said I wouldn't have bought it anyway because I'm not interested in the game, so maybe it's just me.

Sun's Resting Place · Jun 21, 2018

Joseki said:
I appreciate their transparency, but it honestly doesn't make a day 1 purchase inviting.

That being said I wouldn't have bought it anyway because I'm not interested in the game, so maybe it's just me.

I would still recommend playing it on PS4. It's one of my favorite games of all time after playing it. They don't make games like this anymore. Filled with content, extremely fun and super fast paced action RPG with lots of bosses and tons of incredible blood pumping music, and a story that had a pretty heavy emotional impact.

Firestorm ZERO · Jun 21, 2018

Ys was the straw that broke the camel back for me. I used to let it slide for the issues NISA had but after Ys I'm no longer buying any of their games. One of the reasons I am now more focused on my Japanese studies.

I'll import NIS games but not buy NISA.

Phil32 · Jun 21, 2018

This is unacceptable. I'm interested in the game, but this is just unacceptable.

Funny Valentine · Jun 21, 2018

All you Falcom fans who are fluent in Japanese should continue to send messages to Falcom about how bad NISA are. It's no wonder that a company who purposefully underbids and sweetens the pot with unrealistic port goals is a scummy one.

Effect · Jun 21, 2018

Ugh. I really want to play this game but all these issues are crazy and unacceptable. How does this happen? Not once but twice? Do I cancel the preorder or let it go through? I really don't know. The issues are bad but they're at the very least detailing that patches are coming and what the patches will do. At the very least a week after launch things will be better. That's assuming the patches are actually on time though. I don't have a PS4 and have no real reason to get one, certainly not for one game. I don't like playing games like this on the computer. The Switch was the only real option for me.

Funny Valentine · Jun 21, 2018

Effect said:
Ugh. I really want to play this version but all these issues are crazy and acceptable. How does this happen? Not once but twice? Do I cancel the preorder or let it go through? I really don't know. The issues are bad but they're at the very least detailing that patches are coming and what the patches will do. At the very least a week after launch things will be better. That's assuming the patches are actually on time though.

NISA has been a shoddy and cheap localization house for a long time is how it happens, they just got caught this time because Ys is a series that people really care about.

foxuzamaki · Jun 21, 2018

I appreciate the transparency but once you get above needing more than 2 patches at or around launch i think it would be wiser to delay?

RyougaSaotome · Jun 21, 2018

...When they said patches, I assumed they meant that these were all day one patches.

I didn't think we'd have to wait till mid-July.

Kapryov · Jun 21, 2018

Well, um, I guess at least they're open and honest about how far behind they are?

Sorry that's the best I can do.
I feel kinda bad for buying this game on release (PS4). I like the game, but don't like supporting this company.

Sun's Resting Place · Jun 21, 2018

Funny Valentine said:
NISA has been a shoddy and cheap localization house for a long time is how it happens, they just got caught this time because Ys is a series that people really care about.

The other issue is that NIS' president is friends with Toshihiro Kondo, the president of Falcom. So it's been thought that it was partially due to nepotism that NISA got the job.

Funny Valentine · Jun 21, 2018

Kapryov said:
Well, um, I guess at least they're open and honest about how far behind they are?

Sorry that's the best I can do.
I feel kinda bad for buying this game on release (PS4). I like the game, but don't like supporting this company.

You didn't do anything wrong by buying a game as a fan. NISA is in the wrong for obvious reasons and Falcom high-ups are in the wrong because they accepted a cheaper bid from a company who doesn't care about the quality of their localization work (probably due to nepotism as mentioned above).

Brawly Likes to Brawl · Jun 21, 2018

Dreamboum said:
NISA has been an absolute shitshow for nearly a year. I can't believe I don't have access to a single version of Ys 8 that is satisfactory. I'm positive NISA and Falcom won't be getting my business anytime soon.

I know you're probably talking specifically about Ys 8, but NISA has been a shitshow since practically their inception.

Thuddert · Jun 21, 2018

Bless ToraShiro for putting up with this thrice.

I've been fairly open with my criticism, but this is not something you wish on anybody.

It will make a fine read someday on what all went wrong, till then stay strong!

Novel Mike · Jun 21, 2018

So what NISA is wanting is for people to buy the game when its going to take them several weeks or longer to actually finish their work on the game? I mean I can understand a day 1 patch and to fix issues that pop up after the fact but to just flat out not have the game ready and still releasing it anyway is such a terrible business practice. I mean I get that mid July is a terrible time to release the game since it'll be up against Octopath Traveler as well as a much more minor title in Shining Resonance Refrain but if the game is not fucking ready, don't release it!

Funny Valentine · Jun 21, 2018

Thuddert said:
Bless ToraShiro for putting up with this thrice.

I've been fairly open with my criticism, but this is not something you wish on anybody.

It will make a fine read someday on what all went wrong, till then stay strong!

NISA has left in game-breaking bugs in their localizations in the past. A glitch in Disgaea D2 can potentially brick your PS3. There is nothing to read or speculate on. They are just incompetent.

Perona · Jun 21, 2018

Literally saw a review where there was untranslated Japanese text left in the game. What is going on at NISA?

Hero of Legend · Jun 21, 2018

Guys, the Switch version is perfectly fine as in it's not a broken mess like I've heard it is on PC. Source: I have it.

I'm a few hours in and yeah the framerate can be like 25fps at times and as I showed there's an odd graphical tear in the clouds, but it's PERFECTLY playable and enjoyable IMO.

Honestly the patches shown here look to only enhance a good enough experience. It's absolutely not broken or anything. To clarify I've not had a single crash issue nor surprisingly any text issues so far, guess I've just been lucky. :P

I'm having a lot of fun with the game and do highly encourage folks to play it. My full review will come soon enough. Now that I know about this patch outline I don't need to wait until they start dropping, since the experience is just fine for me.

Sagadego17 · Jun 21, 2018

Thuddert said:
Bless ToraShiro for putting up with this thrice.

I've been fairly open with my criticism, but this is not something you wish on anybody.

It will make a fine read someday on what all went wrong, till then stay strong!

People are showing there true colors and it's sad really

raketenrolf · Jun 21, 2018

Should have been released when it's finished, not in early access.

nicoga3000 · Jun 21, 2018

Yikes. I was pretty sold on this but I'm 100% not touching it until those patches are out and available.

KoopaSwitch · Jun 21, 2018

Yet another title that is still in beta released physically.

Sun's Resting Place · Jun 21, 2018

Sagadego17 said:
People are showing there true colors and it's sad really

No one's shitting on him. I don't know him, but he's probably a wonderful guy. Corporations aren't people, so I don't know what the point of defending one would be - it's simple that XSEED single-handedly revived the popularity of Ys, Trails in the Sky, and Falcom in the West in general with almost a decade's worth of work, and extremely high-quality localizations putting almost everyone else in the industry to shame.

Then, after localizing Ys 1 & 2, Oath in Felghana, Origin, Seven, Celceta, XSEED wanted to localize Ys 8 and keep the train going, but here comes NISA out of nowhere to take it from them (as XSEED employee Hatsuu said on Twitter, they didn't give it up willingly) and after promising the world to Falcom that they were going to do a better job than XSEED would have, they completely fall flat on their face and mess up not once, not twice, but multiple times at delivering.

TK_Shrodes · Jun 21, 2018

Thuddert said:
Bless ToraShiro for putting up with this thrice.

I've been fairly open with my criticism, but this is not something you wish on anybody.

It will make a fine read someday on what all went wrong, till then stay strong!

Hm... It's not just me reading these threads, I know a good amount of our office does, as I imagine more places in the industry do as well, I just decide not to lurk.

Working in any creative practice I think you gotta be at peace with the idea you open yourself to criticism with a public work. Whether that's the original game, the port, the translation, the packaging design, the marketing, etc. Games truly are a interdisciplinary collaborative work that rivals nearly any creative endeavor.

At the end of the day, and sometimes this is hard to see through the smoke, most of us here to do a good job and not just pick up a paycheck.

Equally so, I've tried to be as open as I can while juggling corporate responsibility and professional decorum.

We need to hear from players so that we know what we are doing right as much as what we are doing wrong, so I know there's been some tough criticism, but that is instrumental in improving and moving forward (except for the 'pls die'-type posts).

By the by, my policy is never open up until 10-20 years after or death of the company.

Thuddert · Jun 21, 2018

Funny Valentine said:
NISA has left in game-breaking bugs in their localizations in the past. A glitch in Disgaea D2 can potentially brick your PS3. There is nothing to read or speculate on. They are just incompetent.

Normally their incompetence doesn't reach the news so often. It's a whole new level of screw up.

Theswweet · Jun 21, 2018

I'll second Hero of Legend, as I've had very few technical issues while playing through the game again on Switch. The text issues aren't noticeably different from on PS4/Vita... which is an entirely different issue.

I still think people have the right to get on NISA's case about this, I certainly have, but it's rather unfortunate that an otherwise solid port is getting caught up in the game's continuing shitstorm.

Deleted member 11413 · Jun 21, 2018

Hero of Legend said:
Guys, the Switch version is perfectly fine as in it's not a broken mess like I've heard it is on PC. Source: I have it.

I'm a few hours in and yeah the framerate can be like 25fps at times and as I showed there's an odd graphical tear in the clouds, but it's PERFECTLY playable and enjoyable IMO.

Honestly the patches shown here look to only enhance a good enough experience. It's absolutely not broken or anything. To clarify I've not had a single crash issue nor surprisingly any text issues so far, guess I've just been lucky. :P

I'm having a lot of fun with the game and do highly encourage folks to play it. My full review will come soon enough. Now that I know about this patch outline I don't need to wait until they start dropping, since the experience is just fine for me.

Sounds similar to the Vita version. Which is honestly a bit disappointing considering the Switch is a much more powerful system. It's a great game but it doesn't sound like a great port.

I definitely recommend people play the game if you have a PS4 though, it's a great game and they did pretty much fix the localization for that version

Hailinel · Jun 21, 2018

How does NISA keep screwing this game up? And in new and bizarre ways with every platform? And pushing it out with known crashes on day one?

Sabin · Jun 21, 2018

Hero of Legend said:
Guys, the Switch version is perfectly fine as in it's not a broken mess like I've heard it is on PC. Source: I have it.

I'm a few hours in and yeah the framerate can be like 25fps at times and as I showed there's an odd graphical tear in the clouds, but it's PERFECTLY playable and enjoyable IMO.

Honestly the patches shown here look to only enhance a good enough experience. It's absolutely not broken or anything. To clarify I've not had a single crash issue nor surprisingly any text issues so far, guess I've just been lucky. :P

I'm having a lot of fun with the game and do highly encourage folks to play it. My full review will come soon enough. Now that I know about this patch outline I don't need to wait until they start dropping, since the experience is just fine for me.

How are 25fps acceptable in game like YS8 that requires precise blocking and dodging?

Theswweet · Jun 21, 2018

Lord of Ostia said:
Sounds similar to the Vita version. Which is honestly a bit disappointing considering the Switch is a much more powerful system. It's a great game but it doesn't sound like a great port.

I definitely recommend people play the game if you have a PS4 though, it's a great game and they did pretty much fix the localization for that version

Coming from someone who has played the game on Vita, PS4, and now Switch - the game runs considerably smoother on Switch than it does on Vita, alongside most of the PS4 version's visual enhancements.

Deleted member 15538 · Jun 21, 2018

Sounds like a lot of effort was put into this version. I'd give it a spin on PS4 at 20 bucks as the demo gameplay was solid but it looks like they couldn't transfer psn sale either so far.

Deleted member 11413 · Jun 21, 2018

Theswweet said:
Coming from someone who has played the game on Vita, PS4, and now Switch - the game runs considerably smoother on Switch than it does on Vita, alongside most of the PS4 version's visual enhancements.

But it still dips below 30 FPS at times? That doesn't sound that smooth.

MechaX · Jun 21, 2018

Hero of Legend said:
Guys, the Switch version is perfectly fine as in it's not a broken mess like I've heard it is on PC. Source: I have it.

I mean, the game runs at half the frame rate of the PS4 version despite the game not being graphically intensive in the slightest, still has translation errors or incompleteness despite how this is literally NISA's second crack at the localization, and still has graphical glitches despite NISA being flogged for a severely late, flawed port already.

Nah, the fans 100% deserve better than this.

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