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ryseing

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Again, as I said earlier, have you tried Xenoblade?

The character designs really turned me off (I know, rich coming from a Fire Emblem fan, but I hated Fates and parts of Awakening for the same reason). Ultimately, Xenoblade checks some of the boxes I'm interested in but then is so far off the mark on the others. Not worth a $60 gamble.

The n3DS port of the first game is on sale and I debated getting it, but I heard that the quality of the port was lacking.
 

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The character designs really turned me off (I know, rich coming from a Fire Emblem fan, but I hated Fates and parts of Awakening for the same reason). Ultimately, Xenoblade checks some of the boxes I'm interested in but then is so far off the mark on the others. Not worth a $60 gamble.

The n3DS port of the first game is on sale and I debated getting it, but I heard that the quality of the port was lacking.
What systems do you have, if you don't mind me asking? X for the Wii U is super affordable these days, and my personal favorite entry in the series.
 

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What systems do you have, if you don't mind me asking? X for the Wii U is super affordable these days, and my personal favorite entry in the series.

Never bought a Wii U, so the only current Nintendo system I have is my n2DS. Planning on buying a Switch soonish for Fire Emblem, though the delay means I'll be waiting to see if they do a bundle.

I heard... interesting things about X. If I had a Wii U I'm sure I would have given it a shot. If it ever comes to Switch I just might.
 

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Never bought a Wii U, so the only current Nintendo system I have is my n2DS. Planning on buying a Switch soonish for Fire Emblem, though the delay means I'll be waiting to see if they do a bundle.

I heard... interesting things about X. If I had a Wii U I'm sure I would have given it a shot. If it ever comes to Switch I just might.
Fair. For whatever it's worth, I heard the port of Xenoblade on n3DS is supposed to be pretty good overall, despite hardware limitations, so I think it's reasonable to give it a try at a discounted price point.
 

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The n3DS port of the first game is on sale and I debated getting it, but I heard that the quality of the port was lacking.

The game definitely had some visual sacrifices, and they didn't transfer a lot of Wii tev shader and effects to their 3ds maestro counterparts.

But by far the most crippling hit to the graphics came from some seriously brutal compression of about an entire gig going by the original file size of the Japanese versions file size, to fit it on a smaller 3ds cartridge instead if using the next size uo. (I use the jaoanese rom size because the pal/ntsc versions had dual soundtracks, so would be a bad comparison and make it look considerably worse than it already actually is).

Things like mip maps got hit REEEEEALLY hard with the compression stick, so at certain distances and angles the textures just, really fall apart.


But aside from a lower resolution, and some really compressed textures, it's a super faithful port. Nothing's left out, it's the entire gigantic adventure, and on the go.
 
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ryseing

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But aside from a lower resolution, and some really compressed textures, it's a super faithful port. Nothing's left out, it's the entire gigantic adventure, and on the go.

Fair. For whatever it's worth, I heard the port of Xenoblade on n3DS is supposed to be pretty good overall, despite hardware limitations, so I think it's reasonable to give it a try at a discounted price point.

Thanks y'all. I have eShop credit and am in the mood for a new game, so it's between Xenoblade and Radiant Historia, neither of which I've played before.
 

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I like Nintendo games like I like Pixar movies. I think their great, but it would suck if that is all that was on TV.... and buying a Blu-ray player that only plays Pixar movies is kind of ridiculous when you think about it.
 

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Thanks y'all. I have eShop credit and am in the mood for a new game, so it's between Xenoblade and Radiant Historia, neither of which I've played before.

Can't really go wrong with that choice.

If you want to explore huge engrossing worlds and check out every nook and cranny to get entire hidden sections full of off the beaten path bossfights, items/skills and loot. Xenoblade is an easy dunk.


If you want to get in depth with exploring a detailed narrative and all its off shoots and time travel possibilities radiant historian is an easy dunk.
 

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Nintendo fans much like Disney fans tend to romanticize their IPs way more than they deserve. There is nothing more magical about smash bros versus a SOTC or a Halo.

They have some products that are good and some that are mediocre like any other company. Having a kid friendly art style does not mean something is magical.



Pretty much where I stand.

Not everyone knows who Master Chief is, or that there is a Halo guy at all. Hell, I don't even know what SOTC is standing for.

Everyone knows how to play Mario. Press jump, go right.

Everyone knows how to play Wii bowling.

Everyone knew what kids with thier phones out in droves were doing last summer.


There is an familiarity and accessibility Nintendo has that enables these magic moments of playing Wii with your grandma and Mario Kart with you little brother.

It's not about being "kid-friendly", it's about having broad appeal and immediate recognition in brand and often in design.

It doesn't matter if other games or as good, or better. It's just more people are up for playing Nintendo games, and that's more opportunity for those magic moments.
 

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I like Nintendo. They're my favourite developers, and the only ones who can get me to spend hundreds of dollars on new hardware just for their software.

For me it's Zelda and Fire Emblem.

I really wish Nintendo would make more games in that vein. Not necessarily adult but aimed at a slightly older audience.
Play Xenoblade!
 

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I consider myself a (lapsed?) Nintendo fan as well but, post-SNES, my experience with Nintendo has been so up-and-down and inconsistent:

N64 launched with SM64, which was groundbreaking. I had countless hours of fun playing Goldeneye with my friends. Star Fox 64 I loved and other Nintendo games as well. But a lot of the rest, bleh. There was no Metroid. Ocarina of Time was polished but so dull. No Squaresoft and no JRPGs to speak of, at a time when JRPGs ruled.

The Gamecube I rediscovered more of that Nintendo magic. Metroid Prime, which was one of the finest games of all time, cutting edge visuals plus innovative gameplay and design, and then its sequel. SSBM, which got me into the Smash series. There were other games that I loved for the system that were developed by others but published by Nintendo. F-Zero GX. Eternal Darkness. The mainline Mario and Zelda games, though, man they burned me- Sunshine was not good. Wind Waker was an average game with charming production. Launch itself, with the lazy Luigi's Mansion, was pretty sour, but since SSBM came out that next month I was happy. Lots of droughts but overall the Gamecube was a great console with some third-party standouts. It had great graphical prowess and a variety of games that I found rewarding.

The Wii, not much to say. I bought one. It had a lot of shovelware and the motion controller was a gimmick which got old to me fast. I didn't enjoy the system, my kids didn't like it either, and I sold it for what I paid (bought during the times when they were scarce). Some of this was on me, this was during the rise of the Call of Duty juggernaut, and I was all about shooters then.

I skipped the Wii U.

Switch had me excited, based on the hardware, its portability, and Breath of the Wild. I hunted for months before buying one. Once I got it, I quickly found that BotW was not my cup of tea; the game doesn't measure up to modern open-world games in key ways. Splatoon 2 was fun, Mario Kart was fun, especially in local multiplayer. I skipped Mario Odyssey, as the mascot platformer genre isn't my thing at this point. And... I haven't really bought any Switch games in 9 months. Looking ahead in 2018, I basically have Smash to look forward to and that's it. I don't do Pokemon, never have. Indies are usually cheaper on PC and I don't care for most of them anyway. I feel nearly as down on my Switch as I did on my Wii at the same point in ownership. This year is nearly dead for me, so I'm selling my system and games. 2019 or even 2020 should be better and I'll come back to the Switch when it gets a) Metroid b) price drop.

The Super Nintendo was absolutely fantastic of course but, aside from some points on the Gamecube, Nintendo never really hit those heights again for me. Even looking back at the SNES, they needed major third-party support to pull their magic off. I'd even say that was true of the GCN, with Capcom and Sega support. Nintendo has their inconsistencies with game quality as well. They do better when they have other developers shoring up their weak points.
 

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I consider myself a (lapsed?) Nintendo fan as well but, post-SNES, my experience with Nintendo has been so up-and-down and inconsistent:

N64 launched with SM64, which was groundbreaking. I had countless hours of fun playing Goldeneye with my friends. Star Fox 64 I loved and other Nintendo games as well. But a lot of the rest, bleh. There was no Metroid. Ocarina of Time was polished but so dull. No Squaresoft and no JRPGs to speak of, at a time when JRPGs ruled.

The Gamecube I rediscovered more of that Nintendo magic. Metroid Prime, which was one of the finest games of all time, cutting edge visuals plus innovative gameplay and design, and then its sequel. SSBM, which got me into the Smash series. There were other games that I loved for the system that were developed by others but published by Nintendo. F-Zero GX. Eternal Darkness. The mainline Mario and Zelda games, though, man they burned me- Sunshine was not good. Wind Waker was an average game with charming production. Launch itself, with the lazy Luigi's Mansion, was pretty sour, but since SSBM came out that next month I was happy. Lots of droughts but overall the Gamecube was a great console with some third-party standouts. It had great graphical prowess and a variety of games that I found rewarding.

The Wii, not much to say. I bought one. It had a lot of shovelware and the motion controller was a gimmick which got old to me fast. I didn't enjoy the system, my kids didn't like it either, and I sold it for what I paid (bought during the times when they were scarce). Some of this was on me, this was during the rise of the Call of Duty juggernaut, and I was all about shooters then.

I skipped the Wii U.

Switch had me excited, based on the hardware, its portability, and Breath of the Wild. I hunted for months before buying one. Once I got it, I quickly found that BotW was not my cup of tea; the game doesn't measure up to modern open-world games in key ways. Splatoon 2 was fun, Mario Kart was fun, especially in local multiplayer. I skipped Mario Odyssey, as the mascot platformer genre isn't my thing at this point. And... I haven't really bought any Switch games in 9 months. Looking ahead in 2018, I basically have Smash to look forward to and that's it. I don't do Pokemon, never have. Indies are usually cheaper on PC and I don't care for most of them anyway. I feel nearly as down on my Switch as I did on my Wii at the same point in ownership. This year is nearly dead for me, so I'm selling my system and games. 2019 or even 2020 should be better and I'll come back to the Switch when it gets a) Metroid b) price drop.

The Super Nintendo was absolutely fantastic of course but, aside from some points on the Gamecube, Nintendo never really hit those heights again for me. Even looking back at the SNES, they needed major third-party support to pull their magic off. I'd even say that was true of the GCN, with Capcom and Sega support. Nintendo has their inconsistencies with game quality as well. They do better when they have other developers shoring up their weak points.
I've heard many people say this about the Wii, but it was really a beast of our own creation. Dozens of core titles on the system were sent out to die as audiences were more interested in weird trash like Carnival Games. I still think the Wii has a super underrated library, many of the games are dirt cheap now, and the Wii U is a great system for Wii games on top of Wii U content.
 

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See above.

Xenoblade is on the right track but I don't think I'm very interested in the execution.
I still think you'll enjoy it, though, as I mentioned earlier. I also think Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors are often highly underrated titles that may appeal to you.
 

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Metroid is by far my favorite nintendo series and it's the least nintendo like nintendo series....well especially prime.
 

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I still think you'll enjoy it, though, as I mentioned earlier. I also think Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors are often highly underrated titles that may appeal to you.

Yeah, I will give it a shot.

I liked Hyrule Warriors, but I did not care for FE Warriors for various reasons. The weapon triangle doesn't really work in a Warriors game.
 

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Yeah, I will give it a shot.

I liked Hyrule Warriors, but I did not care for FE Warriors for various reasons.
Yeah, I know a few people who couldn't get into FEW at first after Hyrule Warriors. I was that way, too, though surprisingly replaying Hyrule Warriors again on Switch made me realize how great FEW was. Still, not for everyone, of course.
 

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I've soured on Nintendo so hard over the years. NES was my life as a kid, and loved everything on it. But for whatever reason, every Nintendo console that I've bought with my own money (GC, DS, Wii, 3DS), I've ended up playing like 1 or 2 games on and then never touching the console again. I can have fun with something like Mario Kart or Smash at a friend's house but when it comes to my own gaming sessions I tend to prefer more directed, story-heavy games.
 

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I appreciate that Nintendo games are targeted at everyone. Even someone who doesn't have gaming as a habit can play their games.
 

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I've heard many people say this about the Wii, but it was really a beast of our own creation. Dozens of core titles on the system were sent out to die as audiences were more interested in weird trash like Carnival Games. I still think the Wii has a super underrated library, many of the games are dirt cheap now, and the Wii U is a great system for Wii games on top of Wii U content.

You might be right about this. It always seemed like the system's casual success encouraged publishers to just dump trash on it, so the good games were drowned out in the noise to an extent.
 

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You might be right about this. It always seemed like the system's casual success encouraged publishers to just dump trash on it, so the good games were drowned out in the noise to an extent.
Basically. I think, and have said in the past, that third parties shoulder a lot of the blame with regards to what happened on Wii. The system had a large library of great games, but they were drowning in a sea of shovelware. Time will likely be very kind to the system's library, in my opinion, and I highly suggest people get in on these games now that many are under 10 bucks.
 

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Nintendo is just a company. I buy stuff from them, and some of their games are really high on my list, but they're not magical. It's a company.

I'm just a random person playing games. If the nintendo hunk of plastic plays what I want, I'll get that. If it's the other hunk of plastic, that it'll be.

Core nintendo games are good, some great, but I wouldn't call them magical. Stuff like their comments on Zelda (the princess, specifically) are why they will never be able to really catch me. Heck, otherM smashed the last nintendo IP where I was *really* invested to bits, and I'll see if Prime 4 recovers that. (Samus Returns was good, I 100%ed it, really liked the ending slides and what they could hint at, but the game also had flaws - didn't quite recapture my old liking for the franchise that otherM killed)

My favorite Nintendo console is long past. It's the SNES. The only console on which I played more games than that was the 3DS. And even on the SNES, there weren't many Nintendo games I really liked. It was mostly the JRPGs, a bit of capcom and konami here and there that I liked. Like, even *Super Mario World*, while really a good game, didn't quite get me to revisit it a lot. Liked Wario Land more, always did.


At the end, to me Nintendo is kinda like Sega or Konami, some of their games are good, some are a pass, and if what I see of them takes my fancy, I get it. They lost their magical touch on me, I guess. Growing up (and getting really, really tired of damsel tropes) does that, I guess.


Edit: For clarification: THe last sentence doesn't mean that I feel that NIntendo is only for children or not-grown up people. It's just that I, personally, feel I kinda grew out of what they mostly offer. Which is a shame. Their game design is often pretty good (if only the tutorials were optional more often, like in botw)
 
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I know you shouldn't really love a brand, or identify with a brand, cos well, its a corporate brand. But I love Nintendo, I always have, probably always will, and rightly or wrongly (its wrong) I have an incredibly strong emotional connection to them and the games they make. I'm more of a single player guy than multiplayer for sure, but the best experiences, most emotional and most emotional connections with games in general, all from Nintendo.
 

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As I grow up and have a child of my own, I find myself playing Nintendo almost exclusively these days. There's a simplicity to their games' depth that's unmatched by any other developer. Sure, when I was teenager, and then in my 20s PS was go to, but now that I'm older, I've learned to appreciate the depth of gameplay their titles offer, as well the sheer joy their games bring to my son, wife and I, that I can't find elsewhere. I'm excited for TLOU2, and still progressing through GoW, but I look forward to playing Nintendo games, either by myself or with my family.
 

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I can't say I relate to this Nintendo "magic" people talk about. I grew up with a PS1 and played all the major n64 games at my friend's place. While they were fun and the local MP experience was something they excelled in. It didn't really get me to join the fold in their subsequent consoles, in fact even my friend who was the biggest Nintendo fan dropped off. There is still a nostalgic hold on him but when he did buy the Wii, Wii U, and now the Switch, they get very little playtime. It's basically a nostalgic trophy on his entertainment stand.

Nintendo certainly makes different games that resonate with certain people and their gameplay focus above all else is fine. But for me and my friend's we like a more well rounded experience and that's just not Nintendo. Your social circle online and offline will color your perception of how Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are seen and how much "magic" they hold.

P.S I always hated that pesky n64 controller, it was the worst for me play perfect dark and GoldenEye, those were amazing experience despite my disdain for it.
 
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Nintendo have no "magic" for me, which makes me think this whole thing is very much just nostalgia, since I didn't grow up playing their consoles. I don't think Nintendo make bad games, most of their games are excellent. But I don't feel like they're "magical" or that I view Nintendo differently than I view other developers or publishers. Nintendo made a lot of very mediocre games and some straight up bad games, just like anyone else in the industry.
 

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I remember my Mother asking me in a round-about way if I'd prefer Goldeneye or Mission Impossible (I think both were back in games so you could pick one or the other). I picked Goldeneye after some thought (I almost went for Mission Impossible).
When Mission Impossible first came out, both my friend and I agreed that MI was better than Goldeneye. That opinion didn't last very long and I eventually came to my senses, but it's funny looking back on it, because MI isn't anywhere even close to as good as Goldeneye.
 

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Nintendo have no "magic" for me, which makes me think this whole thing is very much just nostalgia, since I didn't grow up playing their consoles. I don't think Nintendo make bad games, most of their games are excellent. But I don't feel like they're "magical" or that I view Nintendo differently than I view other developers or publishers. Nintendo made a lot of very mediocre games and some straight up bad games, just like anyone else in the industry.

I think it's nostalgia plus consistency. People grew up loving the games and characters so they have that nostalgic attachment to them, but they've also kept getting great Mario, Zelda etc. games every generation for 30+ years now (with some clunkers mixers in for sure).

You can't really say that about other IP as Atari failed, Sega failed etc. and Sony and MS are newer to the game—they may have that nostalgia for the younger generations when we're 30+ years out if they keep making great games with the same IP. But even there Sony got away from the mascot games a lot (Crash, Ratchet and Clank etc.) and onto Uncharted, TLOU, Infamous etc. so that kind of "reset" the nostalgia building. MS is too new and Halo and Gears going to new devs and having new entries not be nearly as well regarded hurts there as well.
 
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Anything is possible in the world of magic!

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I think it's nostalgia plus consistency. People grew up loving the games and characters so the have that nostalgia attachment to them, but they've also kept getting great Mario, Zelda etc. games every generation for 30+ years now (with some clunkers mixers in for sure).

You can't really say that about other IP as Atari failed, Sega failed etc. and Sony and MS are newer to the game—they may have that nostalgia for the younger generations when we're 30+ years out if they keep making great games with the same IP. But even there Sony ot away from the mascot games a lot (Crash, Ratchet and Clank etc.) and onto Uncharted, TLOU, Infamous etc. so that kind of "reset" the nostalgia building. MS is too new and Halo and Gears going to new devs and having new entries not be nearly as well regarded hurts there as well.

Sony nostalgia lies in it's the best place to play, where it provides many different experiences, something for everyone. I perfer it tbh, over a relievance of specific IPs.

 

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I know what you mean OP, and I agree for myself personally in a lot of ways, but feels a bit disingenuous to say it's a feeling no other company can evoke. It's all a matter of taste.

One reason Nintendo probably fits specific tastes with some people is because they have that Disney effect. They often target young kids with many of their releases, but they can be just as fun for adults who are willing to give them a shot. And the range of games they make is so broad (from Fire Emblem and Kirby to Metroid and Splatoon). I grew up with Nintendo and I'm very much still a kid at heart so they'll always have a place reserved on my shelf.
 

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Sony nostalgia lies in it's the best place to play, where it provides many different experiences, something for everyone. I perfer it tbh, over a relievance of specific IPs.

Meh. To each, their own and all that. I've mained Playstation three of the past 4 generations (360 last gen) but that kind of sentiment really reeks of brand loyalty/fanboyism to me. As I said before, that's a big pet peeve of mine as I'm pretty anti-corporation and have no loyalty to any of them. I

can more understand nostalgia about IP, specific game franchises etc. as that's what the hobby should be about the games we love playing, the ones we loved playing in the past and like to reminisce about and so on. Not loyalty to the corporations that make the plastic boxes that play those games, nor their marketing campaigns designed to manipulate loyalty out of customers they have no care for other than milking them for as much money as they can.
 
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but feels a bit disingenuous to say it's a feeling no other company can evoke. It's all a matter of taste.

I didn't think I'd need to say this guys but I don't think this :)

My point is Nintendo evokes a specific feeling in me from my cherished memories but I'd never ever say no other company can ever do it. That would be extremely closed minded of me.

And on top of that I've had other amazing experiences with companies.

I have the most amazing memories of playing Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories, Digimon World, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Final Fantasy VII and many more games on the PS1.

Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts, GTA 3 and many more games on the PS2.

But I didn't create this thread to talk about those. They'd be for another time.

This was to discuss the most amazing moments Nintendo myself, my relatives and my friends all together to create such good memories for me.

I don't for one minute accept that nothing else can replicate that feeling and everyone has their own version of my story and it may not be with Nintendo which is completely fine! :)
 

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I think it's nostalgia plus consistency. People grew up loving the games and characters so they have that nostalgic attachment to them, but they've also kept getting great Mario, Zelda etc. games every generation for 30+ years now (with some clunkers mixers in for sure).

You can't really say that about other IP as Atari failed, Sega failed etc. and Sony and MS are newer to the game—they may have that nostalgia for the younger generations when we're 30+ years out if they keep making great games with the same IP. But even there Sony got away from the mascot games a lot (Crash, Ratchet and Clank etc.) and onto Uncharted, TLOU, Infamous etc. so that kind of "reset" the nostalgia building. MS is too new and Halo and Gears going to new devs and having new entries not be nearly as well regarded hurts there as well.
Nintendo are consistent, they make great stuff and I can understand why people love them. I don't know that I can't say that about other IPs though. If I judge from my non-gamer friends, most of them will not necessarily hold Mario in higher regard than God of War or other PS2-era games that were big when we were younger.
 

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I feel like I grew out of Nintendo games for the most part, especially with their recent 'collectathon' style games like BotW and Odyssey. I'm glad people enjoy their games, but looking back on my favorite system of all time, the SNES, I realize now that it's less about Nintendo and more about third party, which is still true to this day.
 

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magic is just science we don't understand yadda yadda

They mage great games. Sometimes consistently. Sometimes they completely shit the bed. Favourite publisher by far.
 
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OP this may have been mentioned but hay killer black bee indie game is also 8 players, and it sounds like you have a solid group to game with!

I also recommend jack in the box 3
 

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Meh. To each, their own and all that. I've mained Playstation three of the past 4 generations (360 last gen) but that kind of sentiment really reeks of brand loyalty/fanboyism to me. As I said before, that's a big pet peeve of mine as I'm pretty anti-corporation and have no loyalty to any of them. I

can more understand nostalgia about IP, specific game franchises etc. as that's what the hobby should be about the games we love playing, the ones we loved playing in the past and like to reminisce about and so on. Not loyalty to the corporations that make the plastic boxes that play those games, nor their marketing campaigns designed to manipulate loyalty out of customers they have no care for other than milking them for as much money as they can.

I guess you can see it that way, to me it's just Sony have spent a lot of time, money, and effort to make it the best place to play with all sorts of games, regardless of first or third party. They spend a lot of effort on each region across the world, and treat each region with their own departments.
There is a reason why Sony is so consistent with their home consoles.
I guess for me Nintendo consoles just don't appeal much to me and Microsoft has been pretty unstable, the brand itself doesn't spark confidence in me as a consumer based on their software support through an entire gen. Sony is a stable consistent presence.
 

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Nintendo are consistent, they make great stuff and I can understand why people love them. I don't know that I can't say that about other IPs though. If I judge from my non-gamer friends, most of them will not necessarily hold Mario in higher regard than God of War or other PS2-era games that were big when we were younger.

Oh I agree. Like I said, it could well be the case down the road if Sony keeps making God of War, Uncharted and other IP at high quality for as long as Mario et al have been around. Younger folks may already have similar nostalgia for those IP even. I turn 40 this year so I can't speak to that as I was an adult when I played those IP for the first time.

I guess you can see it that way, to me it's just Sony have spent a lot of time, money, and effort to make it the best place to play with all sorts of games, regardless of first or third party. They spend a lot of effort on each region across the world, and treat each region with their own departments.
There is a reason why Sony is so consistent with their home consoles.
I guess for me Nintendo consoles just don't appeal much to me and Microsoft has been pretty unstable, the brand itself doesn't spark confidence in me as a consumer based on their software support through an entire gen. Sony is a stable consistent presence.

That all comes across as fanboyish as it's all subjective and you're stating it somewhat like fact. For instance, I love Sony's first party stuff, but I don't think Playstation has been the best place to play personally. I don't like their controller as much as the others, their online was bad last gen compared to Xbox Live as was the user interface to me, the PS3 launch price was consumer unfriendly (as were the statements that we'd work a second job to afford it) as they cared more about winning the HD movie disc format war, all the cross play blocking shit now, no refunds or cancelation of digital preorders/purchases in the US and so on.

That stuff obviously doesn't bother you, and that's fine. It's all inherently subjective as what one person prefers, another dislikes and what bothers one person is a non-issue to another and so on.
 

huH1678

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Oh I agree. Like I said, it could well be the case down the road if Sony keeps making God of War, Uncharted and other IP at high quality for as long as Mario et al have been around. Younger folks may already have similar nostalgia for those IP even. I turn 40 this year so I can't speak to that as I was an adult when I played those IP for the first time.



That all comes across as fanboyish as it's all subjective and you're stating it somewhat like fact. For instance, I love Sony's first party stuff, but I don't think Playstation has been the best place to play personally. I don't like their controller as much as the others, their online was bad last gen compared to Xbox Live as was the user interface to me, the PS3 launch price was consumer unfriendly (as were the statements that we'd work a second job to afford it) as they cared more about winning the HD movie disc format war, all the cross play blocking shit now, no refunds or cancelation of digital preorders/purchases in the US and so on.

That stuff obviously doesn't bother you, and that's fine. It's all inherently subjective as what one person prefers, another dislikes and what bothers one person is a non-issue to another and so on.

Well yeah it's subjective, it's basically my observation on the brand as a whole. People have perferences, that's why we have 3 console platforms, PC, and mobile. I never said PS was a perfect platform. What you said are all perfectly vaild about the PS3 platform, but overall I think PS is the most balance of the 3 console makers.
 

Phendrift

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Perfect analogy.

I love other game and companies as well. Just like I like movies from other production studios as well. And while the both can have their duds, more often then not their tentpoles hit the spot perfectly. from Mario 3 to Super Metroid to Ocarina of Time to Pikmin to Galaxy 1 & 2 to BotW, theres just something that is special about Nintendo. Call me a fanboy I guess.
Yeah, this is how I feel too.
 

Chaofahn

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Nov 16, 2017
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For me, the magic is not only due to the multiplayer, but the creativity that flourishes from Nintendo games itself.

My fondest memories of Nintendo games all come from the ones that evoke a sense of wonder - what could be possible from the previously impossible. My Nintendo journey started off with the SNES and the Mario games, especially with Mario 3 and Mario World's branching paths and secret stages.

The N64 came and while I loved the realistic shooter in Perfect Dark (never was a Goldeneye fan), it was Zelda Ocarina of Time that blew my mind. It was a fully realised 3D fantasy world and discovering every nook and cranny was too much for my young mind. To think I was going to buy Mortal Kombat 4 over this!

More recently, it was Breath of the Wild that dragged me, kicking and screaming, back into gaming. That same sense of discovery took me back decades and it's been an absolute joy to share the Nintendo magic with my younger cousins playing Zelda, Splatoon, ARMS and Mario Odyssey.