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Dynamite Cop

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,002
California
These kids are gonna have it rough growing up, being ripped away from their parents.

If any of these poor kids grow up and become the types of criminals that these racists assume their parents are, it'll be because they created them.
 

Speevy

Member
Oct 26, 2017
19,352
Is there a timeline for these kids being reunited with their parents or is the separation indefinite, months, forever?
 

Wag

Member
Nov 3, 2017
11,638
Even when they put US citizens of Japanese decent in internment camps during WWII they didn't separate families.

Disgusting.
 

shiba5

I shed
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
15,790
Is there a timeline for these kids being reunited with their parents or is the separation indefinite, months, forever?

I don't think anyone knows, but some parents haven't seen their kids in months. One woman was deported back to Guatemala without her daughter and doesn't know where she is.
 

Togruta

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
187
Northern Virginia
I feel fucking nauseous. I thought my faith in humanity couldn't get any lower but here we are.
Any conservative says anything about pro life or scripture or some shit like that ever again I'm not going to politely ignore it. The hypocrisy and shamelessness is getting to me on like a primal level.
 
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chadskin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,013
Is there a timeline for these kids being reunited with their parents or is the separation indefinite, months, forever?
In federal court, parents typically plead guilty to the misdemeanor offense of illegal entry. Many are then likely to accept "expedited removal" from the country, in the hope of being reunited quickly with their children. But children cannot be subject to expedited removal; they are automatically entitled to a full hearing before an immigration judge, and their cases take longer to resolve.

"Once the parent and child are apart, they are on separate legal tracks," said John Sandweg, who was acting director of ICE during the Obama administration.

Reunification becomes particularly difficult when a parent is deported without the child and is no longer on American soil, Mr. Sandweg said; in those cases, "there is a very high risk that parents and children will be permanently separated."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/immigration-deported-parents.html
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
You know what is truly disgusting and shameful?

We just don't actually do anything about it.

This is like Civil War-level shit going on. But everyone has jobs and lives and families and won't give any of it up for the greater good of our country.

200 years ago there would be a revolution against this tyrant

We don't even need war. We could do more just by effecting the businesses that support the GOP. Hell, Twitter, Facebook and Google could completely deplatform these monsters if they wanted to.

Give up your cushy life and devote your entire existence to dismantling this corruption.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,458
NC
No single Trump supporter deserves any respect from this point forward. Every moment of their life should be miserable and fill with woe for what they brought upon the US. Fuck every single one of them.
 

rjinaz

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,404
Phoenix
No single Trump supporter deserves any respect from this point forward. Every moment of their life should be miserable and fill with woe for what they brought upon the US. Fuck every single one of them.
Trump has hired human scum as part of his administration, I mean what did they think they were doing there? What did they think Miller was doing there? Sessions? This was inevitable and they didn't see it because they didn't want to. Too busy being shaming liberals for NK and ignoring their own racism and selfishness.
 

Jedi2016

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,681
How long before we start getting sanctioned for human rights violations? Keep escalating it, dumbass, then the world police will be coming for America.

The shoe's on the other foot now, and the lunatic in charge will never see it.
 

Malleymal

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,298
I just wish that Mexico could could just build something similar on their side of the border and offer those parents an opportunity to come back and connect with their children. Even if it was just for the people that are here now. They would go back if they knew their kids were there waiting for them.

Trump and his team are horrible humans and deserve to rot in some prison or hell
 

EvilChameleon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,793
Ohio
If these people are still Mexican citizens, couldn't Mexico theoretically invade the United States with their army and liberate all these people?
 

KarmaCow

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,158
Is there a timeline for these kids being reunited with their parents or is the separation indefinite, months, forever?

The intent seems to be to scare away asylum seekers by threatening them with this so reuniting families goes against their inhuman goal.

If these people are still Mexican citizens, couldn't Mexico theoretically invade the United States with their army and liberate all these people?

They're not all Mexican and even if they were do you really think that would lead to anything good? They're already ripping children away from their parents, what do you think Stephen Miller/Trump and their ilk would do in response Mexico being aggressive?
 

shiba5

I shed
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
15,790
What you can do is vote these fascist fucks out in November. There are more of us. This separation policy has a 27% approval and is wildly unpopular.

Cruz was off playing basketball or something today while Beto was protesting. Start by getting rid of Cruz.

 

Clowns

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,868
You know what is truly disgusting and shameful?

We just don't actually do anything about it.

This is like Civil War-level shit going on. But everyone has jobs and lives and families and won't give any of it up for the greater good of our country.

200 years ago there would be a revolution against this tyrant


We don't even need war. We could do more just by effecting the businesses that support the GOP. Hell, Twitter, Facebook and Google could completely deplatform these monsters if they wanted to.

Give up your cushy life and devote your entire existence to dismantling this corruption.
200 years ago slavery was legal.
 

Senator Toadstool

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,651
What's more stunning is how many support it. This country is beyond redemption.
Okay these kinda of posts are very historically blind.

If the idea that this pushes us past redemption , seems overwrought , by this logic we;ve been that way since slaves were sailed into Jamestown.

We've kidnapped and separated families with slavery, jim crow, indian reducation, chinese exclusion act, immigrant quotas, japanese internment, extrajudicial killing. (not to mention other non family separation policies that were crimes aganist humanity and war crimes)

I'm 100% against this and think its criminal, a crime against humanity, but this follows a pattern, and I wish we could live more like obama's saying that we're always striving to be a perfect union rather than this idea which seems to be pushed on the american left that we had all these great ideals and practices that were unbroken till trump. No he's very american and so are his polices, political style and supporters.

We need to fight him and try harder but thats easier to do when we realize how we did it in the past. We're not this unique moment in time that's never faced these kinds of crimes in our countries and those that knew better and made us better in those examples have a lot to offer.


(Just to be clear, this is NOT an attack on you. I've used similar phrasing before. I just saw this example)
 
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Deleted member 11626

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,199
I'm going to get my ass out and vote. I'm not sure what else I can do about it but if I come across opportunity I will do everything I can.

6 more years of this shit. this is fucking maddening

Saying that implies you've given up and are assuming he'll do another term. Don't. Get out and vote and get every like-minded individual you know to do the same. Now is not the time to keel over
 

Clowns

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,868
I guess you have a point

But we did start a civil war to end that shit eventually
I mean... the civil war was started by the confederacy because they were paranoid that the north would abolish slavery, when they had no interest in doing so. So, maybe they'll shoot themselves in the foot, too?
 

shiba5

I shed
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
15,790
What you can do to help.
(Credit to General Leia from this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/fe...n-policy-heres-what-you-can-do-to-help.49820/

Which groups to support.

• The ACLU is litigating this policy in California.

• If you're an immigration lawyer, the American Immigration Lawyers Association will be sending around a volunteer list for you to help represent the women and men with their asylum screening, bond hearings, ongoing asylum representation, etc. Please sign up.

Al Otro Lado is a binational organization that works to offer legal services to deportees and migrants in Tijuana, Mexico, including deportee parents whose children remain in the U.S.

CARA—a consortium of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, the American Immigration Council, the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association—provides legal services at family detention centers.

The Florence Project is an Arizona project offering free legal services to men, women, and unaccompanied children in immigration custody.

Human Rights First is a national organization with roots in Houston that needs help from lawyers too.

Kids in Need of Defense works to ensure that kids do not appear in immigration court without representation, and to lobby for policies that advocate for children's legal interests. Donate here.

The Legal Aid Justice Center is a Virginia-based center providing unaccompanied minors legal services and representation.

Pueblo Sin Fronteras is an organization that provides humanitarian aid and shelter to migrants on their way to the U.S.

RAICES is the largest immigration nonprofit in Texas offering free and low-cost legal services to immigrant children and families. Donate here and sign up as a volunteer here.

• The Texas Civil Rights Project is seeking "volunteers who speak Spanish, Mam, Q'eqchi' or K'iche' and have paralegal or legal assistant experience."

Together Rising is another Virginia-based organization that's helping provide legal assistance for 60 migrant children who were separated from their parents and are currently detained in Arizona.

• The Urban Justice Center's Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project is working to keep families together.

Women's Refugee Commission advocates for the rights and protection of women, children, and youth fleeing violence and persecution.

• Finally, ActBlue has aggregated many of these groups under a single button.

This list isn't comprehensive, so let us know what else is happening. And please call your elected officials, stay tuned for demonstrations, hug your children, and be grateful if you are not currently dependent on the basic humanity of U.S. policy.

Update, June 17, 2018: Thanks to readers who updated us with more organizations fighting this policy. Other good work is being done by the following:

• CLINIC's Defending Vulnerable Populations project offers case assistance to hundreds of smaller organizations all over the country that do direct services for migrant families and children.

• American Immigrant Representation Project (AIRP), which works to secure legal representation for immigrants.

• CASA in Maryland, D.C., Virginia, and Pennsylvania. They litigate, advocate, and help with representation of minors needing legal services.

Freedom for Immigrants (Formerly CIVIC), which has been a leading voice opposing immigrant detention.

• The Michigan Immigrant Rights Center represents all of the immigrant kids placed by the government in foster care in Michigan (one of the biggest foster care placement states). About two-thirds are their current clients are separation cases, and they work to find parents and figure out next steps.

• The Northwest Immigrant Rights Project is doing work defending and advancing the rights of immigrants through direct legal services, systemic advocacy, and community education.

• Young Center for Immigrant Children's Rights works for the rights of children in immigration proceedings.

• The Women's Refugee Commission has aggregated five actions everyone can take that go beyond donating funds.

• And finally, the International Refugee Assistance Project (IRAP)—which organizes law students and lawyers to develop and enforce a set of legal and human rights for refugees and displaced persons—just filed suit challenging the cancellation of the Central American Minors program.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/how-you-can-fight-family-separation-at-the-border.html
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,206
No single Trump supporter deserves any respect from this point forward. Every moment of their life should be miserable and fill with woe for what they brought upon the US. Fuck every single one of them.
B-but midterms, undecided voters, don't be mean etc.

Seriously though, fuck this world and anyone who supports or gives any quarter to this administration.
 

Muad'dib

Banned
Jun 7, 2018
1,253
Look at all these terrorists locked behind fences, Americans must feel real goddamn safe right about now.....
 

gozu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,337
America
This is what happens when a racist president is elected. Trump, Sesssion, Miller et al. don't see brown children as fully human.

Sickening beyond belief, aka just another month under Trump.
 

Ramuh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
839
Wow. Another disgusting thing carried on from previous administrations. I hope we find the compassion to help these people.
 

Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
Wow. Another disgusting thing carried on from previous administrations. I hope we find the compassion to help these people.

I know better than to actually talk to you so I'll just say:

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wisdom0wl

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,868
I hope every donald supporter and voter gets economically ruined. if each one of them went into complete destitution I'd sleep better at night.

This is disgusting.
 

Tesseract

Banned
Nov 11, 2017
2,646
User Banned (Permanent): Long history of trolling political threads.
has obama not commented, not even a tweet? feel like he's kinda complicit if he's silent
 

Volimar

volunteer forum janitor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,471


has obama not commented, not even a tweet? feel like he's kinda complicit if he's silent

I think he knows that if he tweets about it, the narrative will shift to whataboutisms of his own immigration failures. No one wants the focus to shift off those families. Staying quiet, at least while they try to push a bill through to stop it, might be the best thing right now.