Better make sure you have Gold then, otherwise you can't play the F2P Fortnite at all.
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Sony's Fortnite crossplay account block is now covered by mainstream press [Sony Responds]
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Wouldn't matter. Nobody would be able to ditch their ps4 version in favor of another one
I thought that was the case but people in the other thread were quoting me and telling me I was wrong.
Yup. This is what a lot of people aren't getting. Sony can keep their cross play. They can even keep their PSN purchases. But they are also locking down any purchase that I made on PC/Mobile to their console ecosystem. That's fucked and unacceptable.
never even played a match on PS4, one beautiful day i just linked all my platforms on their site, because "why not?", fuck my life.
I was asking more along the lines of "if you play on PS4, can your progress carry over to PC/IOS/Android/Mac"
So this is feeling more and more like a limitation on how Epic's cloud save system works. Unless crossplay is enabled on the system, the account can't carry over to the systems where crossplay is blocked.
Because how some people were speaking it sounded like all PS4 purchases were completely locked onto PS4 and PS4 only and you couldn't carry anything anywhere if you went on PS4.
Because imo if Sony was actively blocking people from carrying over their accounts and purchases to other systems, when others allow for it that would be scummy. But if Xbox and Switch are the only ones affected, then it feels like an unfortunate repercussion because of them not wanting crossplay between the consoles.
I am genuinely surprised Nintendo of all people are ok with crossplay though.
Only reason I can see is they think not allowing it encourages people to their ecosystem for safety next of bigger install base and therefore hurts competitors by re-enforcing perception largest communities will be on PS4.
That said, putting aside my view they should allow it purely to support their consumers, I think they're mistaken and having cross- play would likely be more beneficial for them than a negative.
Still, the heat is properly on now and TBH I believe they're going to be forced to cave whether they're right or wrong due to greater risk of negative PR this now represents.
The locking of accounts looks particularly bad with this level of general exposure.
Fuck Sony. This type of shit should hurt their profits and I'm glad it's a PR nightmare. I hope this make them change their shitty practices regarding crossplay too.
Yeah, let's timewarp: You do need Xbox Live Gold in order to play Fortnite Battle Royale on Xbox.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
This is true and a policy that should also change. It also shows the problems on Xbox Live and how everything is a tangled mess. FFXI was another issue I don't think they ever resolved either. The point was Microsoft is not the same company and have made headway (not all) while it looks like Sony is moving backwards. At least in that case if you don't want to keep paying for Live you can keep your Fortnite account and play somewhere else.
Yes you do, which is why it's weird seeing posts that one company is pro consumer and the other isn't despite the fact only one company forces you to pay to play Fortnite online.
I assume Nintendo is still free online?
Wonder if they will require you to sub to play this online once their new online subscription comes into effect
Or a invasion on Bloodborne (Shu is a very good player)
Nintendo has been ok with crossplay since the days of the Wii.
Switch already has about 8 or 9 released or announced crossplay games.
Fortnite, Minecraft, Rocket League, and Paladins being the biggest examples.
At the very least we should be allowed a one time choice to unlink my Fortnite account and choose where it lands.
1. PSN, PC, iOs
2. Xbox, Switch, PC, ios
If I want to move it back to the PSN side put HUGE fucking warnings that I have to agree to.
1. PSN, PC, iOs
2. Xbox, Switch, PC, ios
If I want to move it back to the PSN side put HUGE fucking warnings that I have to agree to.
We already had many posts complaining about the fact you need gold to play on Xbox, though, in many threads.
If you've never launched Fortnite specifically on PS4 you're fine.
You can have your Epic account linked to PSN and still play Fortnite on Switch with that account, the block is specifically if you had launched Fortnite on PS4 prior to other platforms.
Wait what? i didn't know this i thought Fortnite was the exception in the needing gold to play.
Crossplay block makes sense because Sony don't want to open their playerbase built working harder than the competition...
But progress is really strange, makes no sense.
Unless Epic is using this to force the hand on crossplay, something like: cross progress require crossplay to be enable on our end.
Either way, they need to fix this, is just progress.
But progress is really strange, makes no sense.
Unless Epic is using this to force the hand on crossplay, something like: cross progress require crossplay to be enable on our end.
Either way, they need to fix this, is just progress.
I'm I'm playing that people complaints would be more effective if they tweeted to Sony instead of just complaining in a thread.
I'd imagine the deal between Sony and Epic, as with most contracts at this scale, would be subject to non-disclosure agreements and Epic simply aren't allowed to talk about it publicly.
That said, there *could* be some skeezy side to the deal that Epic are complicit in... Maybe something along the lines of Sony getting a cut from purchases made on PC/Mobile if the player account was created on or tied to PSN or something?! Or an agreement that in exchange for Sony allowing non-PS+ subscribers to play Fortnite, Sony dictate the terms by which account progression can be shared?!
Both of those are pure conjecture on my part though, just as a couple of possible hypothetical reasons for Epic's silence, if it's not the simple answer of non-disclosure agreements in business contracts.
True, it kind of sucks anyways, but at least Microsoft don't seem to be actively taking the piss by providing less functionality for their similarly priced subscription service.
As much as this is problematic, this isn't the place. Sony are holding accounts hostage and need Gold to play Fortnite doesn't hold a candle to this situation. Sony is dead ass wrong for doing this and we need to keep the focus and energy on this, because they cannot walk away from this. Especially when this isn't a game that even requires PS+. It's not breaking into their investment so wtf is up!
People like to pretend Epic isn't involved with this at all just so they can keep posting weird "fuck you Sony" replies, just like that guy that got exposed in the other thread where he went full fake outrage and pretended to sell his PS4 even though he never owned one. Internet is a sad place. Instead of simply hoping for things to change, some people just wanna be as obnoxious as possible.
Huh? How is Fortnite free on Xbox if it requires a subscription then?Yeah, let's timewarp: You do need Xbox Live Gold in order to play Fortnite Battle Royale on Xbox.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
I'm not sure I understand your question? I'm saying that most kids playing video games today play on PS4s, and by not allowing crossplay the kids who don't have a PS4 are locked out of playing with all their other friends.
Imagine being the one boy out of your group of friends with an Xbox or a Switch, and your other friends all play Fortnite on PS4 together after school every day, and you can't join in. That kid then wants to swap to PS4 just so he can join in. Disallowing crossplay generates a lot of sales for them, all the time. Kids seem to usually want to play video games with their friends rather than their parents. Most kids currently have PS4s, not Xbox or Switch. Kids want the same console that their friends have, just so they can play together.
I was just saying how at work I see this translating into lots of sales. I speak to customers every shift and every shift there are people whose kids want to swap console (almost always from Xbox to PS4) specifically because their friends are all on PS4 and they are left out. No crossplay = kids forced to buy PS4s to join in if they don't have a PS4. So I don't personally see them allowing crossplay any time soon, because they would lose a lot of sales.
Fuck Sony. This type of shit should hurt their profits and I'm glad it's a PR nightmare. I hope this make them change their shitty practices regarding crossplay too.
Yeah, let's timewarp: You do need Xbox Live Gold in order to play Fortnite Battle Royale on Xbox.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
Like back in the 360 era, Gold is required on Xbox to play any online game, including demos and f2p titles. It sucks. It is, however, not the theme of the thread, and this isn't a "whodunit" or who's more pro consumer. We're talking about Sony's limitations on crossplay and crossprogression.
This thread isnt the right place to talk about this but let's not act like we shouldn't be talking about it. People brought up the same concerns earlier in the year only to be drowned out by PS4 not wanting to crossplay with Xbox in Fortnite.
For future talking about the subject refer to this thread.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/xb...ion-for-online-f2p-games-your-thoughts.28989/
yeah that is also fucked up and MS needs to be held accountable and change that policy. it's just dumb tbh
the problem in this particular topic is that issue gets brought up as a deflection tactic from people who want to pretzel themselves to somehow make Sony look better. that, the fact that 360-era MS operated differently, "Epic shares the blame too!" are all common points that get brought up to try and deflect from Sony's bullshit
they're both issues for sure though it's just that crossing the streams is mostly console war nonsense
I'm fine with Sony taking a hard stance on cross play as the market leader. Microsoft would've done the same if they were in the lead. They're only playing nice because they're behind.
Having said that, cross console progression blocks should not exist. That should be decided at the developer level. Wisen up Sony, this should be an easy decision
Having said that, cross console progression blocks should not exist. That should be decided at the developer level. Wisen up Sony, this should be an easy decision
Hypothetically if we go into 'next gen' and Sony's console is still the only one that doesn't do crossplay that's a much bigger deal right? At this point this is an issue in a way it definitely wasn't earlier in the gen. I could see this hurting Sony's image pretty badly if they try to release another console without it. I bet PS4 never changes but PS5 launches with crossplay, but if not it's just gonna look even worse.
I'm doing both. Discussing this here AND Tweeting about it. Sometimes my discussions here involve my Tweets at Sony...
Multitasking!
It's the future!
That would be bad, but it's even worse. Even if you spend $100 on it on PC and mobile, if you play on PS4 just once you can no longer use any of those purchases- that were not made on the PS4- on an XB1 or Switch.
Their stance from the PS3 on being open with crossplay is going backwards, we both know it.
That was me bringing up how Microsoft is more pro-consumer now as we see with the latest controversy surrounding Sony (since someone else suggested Microsoft is not any more pro-consumer than Sony) even though in some areas like the one you mention is still the same policy on Live. But you're right, we're talking about Fortnite and Sony's limitations that are the issue that go well beyond Xbox Live.
They've always supported PC and during the PS3 always talked about how they are open to the idea of crossplay with anyone. Now here we are and the lines are drawn in the sand and they don't want to play with Switch or Xbox. Plus now with them taking Fortnite accounts as hostage that is indeed going backwards. No need to apologize, that's Sony's responsibility.
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Sorry but Sony was first on consoles with cross-buy and cross-plays. Their ecosystem only but still. I dont see amy turning back but forward adding PC into space.
First time I'm hearing about ps4/switch numbers. 40% is close to what I expected.
Who the fuck wants the worst version of Minecraft that you can buy and that you can't crossplay with?
Although that might be true right now, personally, these decisions will effect which platform I invest in next generation. Between this and minecraft, I will choose xbox next time. Crossplay is here to stay, and Sony needs to get on board asap.
I don't even think the issue is the crossplay- if sony doesn't want Xbox/Switch players joining up with PS4 players, whatever. But the fact that third party accounts can't be used freely (just because they were once linked with PSN) is the travesty. This is where bounds are being overstepped, because how the hell can they dictate how a 3rd party account works on another platform. And why be cool with PC/mobile, but hostile with Xbox/Switch (because of console war nonsense, of course). But while they probably *could* get away with it if MS and Nintendo were equally isolationist, they are not, so as odd man out, they are the bad guy here.
Yeah, I completely agree and it'll bite them in the near future.
And the thread should be about that, you're right. I edited my message adding the link to the thread domthybomb posted.
huh?
