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Sony's Fortnite crossplay account block is now covered by mainstream press [Sony Responds]
- Thread starter Gowans
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And this isn't just for people who have exclusively played on PS4 and bought everything there. This happens to people who put 1000 hours on the PC version and just signed in on PS4 once for five minutes to see how it looked.
Why not though?
Epic owns the Fortnite accounts, surely they should be allowed to to decide what people do with them?
I'm not saying Sony isn't at fault by the way, they're clearly being super scummy in this as well.
Thats because with that confirmation feom Epic, Sony would be in some shit.
Crossplay only works if you play with friends. And even there it doesn't matter if you have or don't have an advantage, we played squads with people on PS4 and PC and won quite a few games with console players on our team.
Its not that they are not techincally able to do it they have already changed it so psn and xboxs have played together for a bit of time by "mistake". We are talking about different tables nothing crazy like sonys user id debacle. Ingratiation should be fairly straight forth.
You get to choose where you queue, so you can stay in your own ecosystem if you want.
Likewise, we don't know what Sony said. All we know is that Sony does not, under any circumstances, allow crossplay with other consoles. Xbox and Nintendo do. This account problem only occurs on Sony's consoles, not any of the others, so we can only assume it's tied to that. And considering the fact that Sony didn't deny this in their official response, we know pretty concretely it's their fault. They could have say something along the lines of 'any account that has been used on a Sony platform cannot be used on competing consoles'.
Its not about crossplay. They need to allow the Account switch thing and they are fine.
Maybe I'm being naive but I don't understand how epic doesn't have the power to sort this situation out. Like, can you use the ps+ content (skins etc) if you log into Fortnite with that account on pc?
Is it to do with the account infrastructure and ps+ content being tied to said accounts? That seems like an oversight on both Sony and epics behalf, but it's shitty if Sony's not budging on it deliberately.
Is it to do with the account infrastructure and ps+ content being tied to said accounts? That seems like an oversight on both Sony and epics behalf, but it's shitty if Sony's not budging on it deliberately.
this is why they wont change it, If this changes then everything does. the trickle down effect.
That Sony PR doesn't even mention the account locking. Just crossplay. People are asking the wrong questions and seem to not understand completely what the real issue is.
You don't need PS plus for FN though.
You don't need PS plus for FN though.
I've seen a couple of people have their iPhone on a stand while they play.
I think I saw someone playing with a controller too, but I might have been mistaken.
Shit is crazy .
Fuck Sony. This type of shit should hurt their profits and I'm glad it's a PR nightmare. I hope this make them change their shitty practices regarding crossplay too.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
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Yeah, let's timewarp: You do need Xbox Live Gold in order to play Fortnite Battle Royale on Xbox.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
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The only reason I can think of that would stop Epic from sorting it out is if Sony were mandating that any account used on the PS4 couldn't be used on another console.
That would be incredibly scummy if true.
Yep but it all boils down to crossplay, this wouldnt be an issue if they allowed it here, on rocket league, paladins, etc... The account held hostage is only what makes it worse
At this point, I feel Sony is not going to do anything and just let it die down unless it keeps going for a while.
See this is the part where I don't get Sony. It seems sometimes they are only 'for the players' int heir own way./
IMO they should catch A LOT of flak for this to the point that if they don't respond maybe Epic should pull the game from PSN. It would suck for those PS players but it feels like the only way to force their hand. Even then I doubt Epic even considers this.
It just feels so wrong and I can't think that they just don't care because it would be "helping" the competition.
See this is the part where I don't get Sony. It seems sometimes they are only 'for the players' int heir own way./
IMO they should catch A LOT of flak for this to the point that if they don't respond maybe Epic should pull the game from PSN. It would suck for those PS players but it feels like the only way to force their hand. Even then I doubt Epic even considers this.
It just feels so wrong and I can't think that they just don't care because it would be "helping" the competition.
Reggies quote on this is hilarious. Hes like - "You have companies like mine, who are awesome and cool with cross play, then you have these DICKS over here, and I'm like - 'why cant you guys be cool like us?' But yknow, they don't listen to me, so I guess they will remain dicks"
I hope they allow the account purchases to work cross platform. I even think they might.
However I really don't believe they will allow crossplay! They benefit so much all the time from NOT allowing crossplay, it would actively hurt their sales a lot, hardware and software. The sales data from the store I work at shows that a very large proportion of PS4 sales come from Xbox One trade ins, I know from personally dealing with many of them that it's almost always kids wanting to swap platform only because their friends all play PS4 together (usually Fortnite, but also things like Rocket League and Minecraft) and they are left out because they are on Xbox and can't crossplay. So they swap to PS4 so they can join in, and then going forward buy multiplatform games on their PS4 etc.
It happens at least once every single day I work, which is just a little store in a little town in the U.K., so if that's representative of what happens everywhere just imagine how many sales that's translates to in every store, in every country the world over. (And subsequently how many extra software sales are garnered). Allow crossplay and these kids don't need to swap systems. Lots of sales lost there. They aren't going to do that, it's far worse for business than a bit of negative press over not allowing crossplay.
However I really don't believe they will allow crossplay! They benefit so much all the time from NOT allowing crossplay, it would actively hurt their sales a lot, hardware and software. The sales data from the store I work at shows that a very large proportion of PS4 sales come from Xbox One trade ins, I know from personally dealing with many of them that it's almost always kids wanting to swap platform only because their friends all play PS4 together (usually Fortnite, but also things like Rocket League and Minecraft) and they are left out because they are on Xbox and can't crossplay. So they swap to PS4 so they can join in, and then going forward buy multiplatform games on their PS4 etc.
It happens at least once every single day I work, which is just a little store in a little town in the U.K., so if that's representative of what happens everywhere just imagine how many sales that's translates to in every store, in every country the world over. (And subsequently how many extra software sales are garnered). Allow crossplay and these kids don't need to swap systems. Lots of sales lost there. They aren't going to do that, it's far worse for business than a bit of negative press over not allowing crossplay.
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As it should be obvious I don't play fortnite...
But does your progress/purchases carry over to the platforms Sony does allow crossplay with?
Or is PS4 a separate ecosystem?
If Sony doesn't want crossplay between the other consoles ok, but I don't understand why they would go out of their way to block the ability to play on other consoles if this information regarding progression and purchases are relegated to a cloud save on Epic's side.
Because the agreement that epic has with sony wont allow it. Remember, fornite was on ps4 first before it got big. Sony cold dictate the agreement as fortnite save the world was doing spectacularly shitty at the time too. When this all took place sony held all the cards.
This is one of those rare games where controller users can actually compete. Obviously the best of the best like Sypher, Myth, Wish, Hamlinz, Dakotaz, Daequan etc. will dominate. However there are legit controller players like Nickmercs who are in the competitive scene and win playing with a dual shock
Fuck Sony. This type of shit should hurt their profits and I'm glad it's a PR nightmare. I hope this make them change their shitty practices regarding crossplay too.
Yeah, let's timewarp: You do need Xbox Live Gold in order to play Fortnite Battle Royale on Xbox.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
Yup, very wrong of MS imo, needs more flak.
I couldn't care less about crossplay but taking accounts hostage needs to be fixed asap.
Do we know that for sure?
I feel like if this were the case we could have seen a comment from Epic on it.
Wait what. You need gold to play Fortnite? And everyone is ok with this?Fuck Sony. This type of shit should hurt their profits and I'm glad it's a PR nightmare. I hope this make them change their shitty practices regarding crossplay too.
Yeah, let's timewarp: You do need Xbox Live Gold in order to play Fortnite Battle Royale on Xbox.
Right now it's the only platform you need a suscription to play the game. Although what Sony is doing in this situation is much worse (not even comparable), let's not kid ourselves. Microsoft is as pro consumer as Sony.
Yes. Epic has been getting sony to change its stance on crossplay for months now. Epic cant just say fuck you to the agreement they had before. If epic could have they would have long ago and have stated as much.
Nothing to do with ps+
That's exactly what's happening.
yes.
I also don't play on Xbox... but are F2P games exempt from needing gold like how on PS4 F2P don't need plus?
But this doesn't really make sense. I played Fortnite on PS4 and bought skins and other stuff there. Now I'm abandoning that account to play on Switch. And I'm sure a lot of people will do the same especially if they have a family.
Why would a father buy a PS4 for his little son if he won't be able to play Minecraft, Rocket League, Fortnite etc with him via crossplay?
It's 100% a Sony thing.
If you ever played Paragon on the PS4 with your Epic Games account (but never played Fortnite) you are forever barred from playing Fornite on Xbox or Switch with that account.
Progression transfers on every device except PS4. PS4 does not intersect with Xbox or Switch. So if I play the game on Xbox and then pick it up on Switch, all of my unlocks, cosmetics etc are available on my Switch version. If I play on Playstation and pick up a Switch, I am unable to play and need to create a new account from scratch.
Didn't really care in past, but seeing my son be able to dump his Xbox because he'll be able to cross play Minecraft and fortnite was cool. No reason why they should limit crossplay or progression. I'm still happy with my PS4, but it's gonna make me reconsider things come next gen.
Sony should change their stance and hopefully the shares taking a hit gives them the financial motivation to do so.
Just guesswork but, maybe there's no internal crossplay filter implementation from Epic? The game is on what, PS4, PC mobile and switch. Perhaps the PS4 being tied to the account is literally the only thing that tells it to just connect with other playstation players? And that's why they hold the account to random effectively? I don't know tbh. It's quite an oversight either way.
Something just doesn't make sense, the thread about tweeting to Sony only made it a few pages yet here we have all these people taking the time to shit on Sony for their weird policy. Why don't you same people go out and tweet about it? It'd be more effective then just posting.
"Fuck Sony"
"Fuck Sony"
Purchases made on ANY system are locked to PS4 if you've played one match on PS4.
If you did 99% of your progress and purchases on PC you can't bring it over to Switch simply because of that one PS4 match you played. It's fucked.