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francium87

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,041
How's destruction? I know you can run through stone walls.
Because I am terrible at driving, I will inevitably run into sheep and trees, I'm wondering how PG deals with the former, and if they made bigger trees destructible this time around (FH3 has destructible small trees, and slightly bigger trees that just stonewalled, felt weird)
 

Deleted member 22750

Oct 28, 2017
13,267
compared to horizon 3 is it a larger map?
have they said anything about amount of cars?
 

Deleted member 22750

Oct 28, 2017
13,267
oh god

im gonna buy another xbox for this
 

Maturin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,102
Europe
I'm going all in on the Ultimate (as usual for Forza). However I'll save a few quid buying Xbox money from CDKeys.
 

Petran

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,034
Probably refering to when UE owners were angry before they changed it.
that was until the first patch though. they rectified their mistake. so no problem with UE since then. and that's a long time back.

also, forza horizon 4 is the very first forza game to have both the car pass and the 2x expansions , and vip of course, in the same 99 price,
while every game before the expansions were extra.
so, actually they have already sweetened the UE deal by 40 bucks too.

so there ;)

edit: no 60fps vids yet, but this one is gameplay blimblim quality:
https://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_forza_horizon_4_e3_gameplay_1_4k_-42291_en.html
 
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Toxik

Banned
May 22, 2018
411
that was until the first patch though. they rectified their mistake. so no problem with UE since then. and that's a long time back.

also, forza horizon 4 is the very first forza game to have both the car pass and the 2x expansions , and vip of course, in the same 99 price,
while every game before the expansions were extra.
so, actually they have already sweetened the UE deal by 40 bucks too.

so there ;)
Yes, they learned from their mistake of not including the expansion pass in the UE.
 

Prine

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
15,724
I have game pass, but I'll buy this, feels good to show appreciation for the joy these dev's bring to us.
 

Petran

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,034
dude, you can take your "greedy" and "luckily" mantra elsewhere. neither turn10 nor playground deserve what you write here.
plus, you can always get vanila and skip your drama.
hundrends of thousands are victims, and you ..da smart fox
 

Toxik

Banned
May 22, 2018
411
dude, you can take your "greedy" and "luckily" mantra elsewhere. neither turn10 nor playground deserve what you write here.
plus, you can always get vanila and skip your drama.
hundrends of thousands are victims, and you ..da smart fox
Hm, wonder why they changed it then if everything was tip top.
 

The4WuDu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
186
Looking forward to the radio stations being announced, and finding out what tracks are on the playlists.

Hoping Hospital Records returns (a no brainer you'd think), and wondering if they'll add a new station for a UK label like they did with Future Classics in FH3.
 

caff!!!

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,029
Looking forward to the radio stations being announced, and finding out what tracks are on the playlists.

Hoping Hospital Records returns (a no brainer you'd think), and wondering if they'll add a new station for a UK label like they did with Future Classics in FH3.
Hospital is 100% back, and as the E3 demo song. Long time history with Forza, and the perfect music for the festival theme.
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I'm going all in on the Ultimate (as usual for Forza). However I'll save a few quid buying Xbox money from CDKeys.
I'll most likely get it through the store if ultimate edition keys aren't cheap elsewhere, I got some deals on Xbox gift cards
 
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Racos

Member
Oct 27, 2017
277
So does gamepass work in a way that I'll be able to play this game for a few months, maybe at least a couple months, and then it goes away?
 

RoKKeR

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,377
So does gamepass work in a way that I'll be able to play this game for a few months, maybe at least a couple months, and then it goes away?
While I don't think it's written anywhere or set in stone, the assumption is that all MS first party games will launch and remain in GamePass in perpetuity. Obviously that's not likely to be the case, but it'll be in there for a long ass time, probably even after the next Horizon game comes out.
 

kubev

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,533
California
Screw it, pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition...I want all the cars lol.
Yeah, I'm tempted to do this, as well. I want to buy the game at launch, and I figure that I'll end up paying the same amount (or more) when it's said and done if I pick up the extra content later. That said, the only reason I haven't pre-ordered yet is because I kind of dislike how DLC cars tended to screw with the progression in past Horizon games. Sure, I could just not buy the DLC cards in-game, but they're there, and they're usually superior to the other cars I'd be able to afford. I kind of just wish they'd bundle them with purchases for other cars as you progressed or something. Still, I think I'll put a ton of time into Horizon 4, so I'd like to eventually have all of the content.
 

Jerm411

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,014
Clinton, MO
Games come and go each month, they've merely said all MS first party games will launch on game pass not stay forever. They've already had some MS published catalog 360 games fall off.

Even if they remove the game from GP don't you get to keep it in your library and keep playing it as long as you have an active subscription?

I could be wayyyy off base but I could've sworn I read that somewhere.
 

melodiousmowl

Member
Jan 14, 2018
3,774
CT
While I don't think it's written anywhere or set in stone, the assumption is that all MS first party games will launch and remain in GamePass in perpetuity. Obviously that's not likely to be the case, but it'll be in there for a long ass time, probably even after the next Horizon game comes out.

Im pretty sure MS games stay on forever ever (I recall reading this)
 

derFeef

Member
Oct 26, 2017
16,355
Austria
Not sure if posted, but neat info from the giantbomb interview with Dan:
Seasons are week-based. So they change from week to week and affect the whole playerbase at once.
 

Maturin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,102
Europe
Just seen on Twitter that Ralph Fulton has confirmed the XB1X version gets real time dynamic shadows from headlights. This is something we got in Forza 7 too.

 

Lothars

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,765
dude, you can take your "greedy" and "luckily" mantra elsewhere. neither turn10 nor playground deserve what you write here.
plus, you can always get vanila and skip your drama.
hundrends of thousands are victims, and you ..da smart fox
Turn 10 deserves the critisim, They haven't made a worthwhile forza since 4. Playground games doesn't, they have kept the forza name meaning something because of how good the horizon games are.

Hm, wonder why they changed it then if everything was tip top.
They changed it because of the outcry like you said. Turn 10 doesn't deserve any recongition for changing it when they had implemented a terrible system in the first place.
 

Maturin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,102
Europe
Oh please. Spare us this lazy devs nonsense, Turn10 is heavily involved in the technology behind all of the Forza games, including Horizon.
 

Bhonar

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
6,066
Turn 10 deserves the critisim, They haven't made a worthwhile forza since 4.
T10 does not deserve complete mud, but they do deserve some aspects of criticism. And I half-agree with you on the Forza 4 comment, but here's my quick breakdown:

F4 -- awesome

F5 -- I give T10 a complete pass on this, because it was a system launch game that they were forced to put out. All launch games for all consoles suck (except for Zelda BOTW). So I always ignore and give devs a pass on system launch games.

F6 -- I think this turned out pretty good. Solid game, I would say just somewhat light on content at release (not counting DLC).

F7 -- clusterfuck with the microtransaction & pass crap (unknown if this was forced on T10 by Microsoft)
 

desu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
539
Caaaan't wait! Finally pre-ordered the US version with gift cards from cdkeys, ~73,5€ isntead of 99.99€ wasn't too bad.
 

flkRaven

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,236
I played some Horizon 1 but relatively speaking I'm new to the Horizon franchise, and haven't sat down with a Forza in years. My most recent co-op racing experience was The Crew, and I loved it. My favorite part of the game was just driving around with friends doing basically nothing, taking in the views, and doing the odd event together. The entire experience was chill and cooperative, and the entire game could be beaten that way. Will Horizon 4 be similar in this regard? I have game pass, so I will be playing this game day one, but I want to just drive around aimlessly, have fun, and play the game relatively cooperatively with my friends (basically 'PvE'). I don't want to have to do competitive races against other people. Also, how does rewind work in these instances? Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask.
 

Maturin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,102
Europe
I played some Horizon 1 but relatively speaking I'm new to the Horizon franchise, and haven't sat down with a Forza in years. My most recent co-op racing experience was The Crew, and I loved it. My favorite part of the game was just driving around with friends doing basically nothing, taking in the views, and doing the odd event together. The entire experience was chill and cooperative, and the entire game could be beaten that way. Will Horizon 4 be similar in this regard? I have game pass, so I will be playing this game day one, but I want to just drive around aimlessly, have fun, and play the game relatively cooperatively with my friends (basically 'PvE'). I don't want to have to do competitive races against other people. Also, how does rewind work in these instances? Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask.

You'll be able to just drive around and do whatever you like. The whole game can be played offline. Or just online with friends. There's no forcing you to play with randoms.

Rewind doesn't work unless you are playing solo.
 

ElNino

Member
Nov 6, 2017
3,706
I'm glad it's not linked to the real seasons nor real times of day. Metropolis Street Racer tried the real time of day thing and it meant that it was hard to ever get a daylight race in the UK on the Tokyo tracks unless you played late at night.

Weekly seasons and I hope the regular 40 or so minute day/night cycles would work fine for me.
Yeah, I remember playing MSR when I got home from work at around 2am so that I could have daytime races in Tokyo. It was a cool, but somewhat frustrating feature to the game.
 

flkRaven

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,236
You'll be able to just drive around and do whatever you like. The whole game can be played offline. Or just online with friends. There's no forcing you to play with randoms.

Rewind doesn't work unless you are playing solo.

I don't mind playing with randoms. It's sort of fun driving around with my friends and crashing into others and playing around. It's just, when it comes to progression, I don't want to have to race against people (or my friends) with any regularity. In The Crew, it's sort of like a joint effort. If my party member gets first, and I don't, the event is still a success for both of us. I just want to know if it's like that.
 
Nov 8, 2017
173
Has dynamic weather been confirmed? I'm not talking about seasons, but dynamic rain, snow, etc.
If we are limited to certain types of weather condition in certain season (like if it always snows in the winter or never rain in fall, etc.) I will consider this a step down from 3.
Dynamic weather and dynamic climate combined will be a wet dream.