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Braaier

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A Smash game coming out December 7th is late? Seems like a great time to me.

This is the first time we've actually seen the game, so I'm sure there things still being worked on and tweaked. My gut tells new still have a lot to see.
Yeah, I assumed (like many others) that it would launch alongside paid online. Now I'm wondering how they're going to get folks to sign up. Splatoon 2? Fortnite (if it requires paid online)?
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm outta loop when it comes to recent footage and other new discoveries, but

That's an Earthbound enemy right? Awesome!
I think it's pretty easy to guess what kind of status effect he'll give to nearby players.
It's funny, because I played Earthbound sometime after Melee and the mushroom on the head really reminded me of the Lip's stick flower poison status effect. I thought it'd be a good fit for Smash, as in a super annoying status effect to deal with :D

On that note, any screenshots or footage of the Lip's stick weapon somewhere?

99% chance it inverts your controls like in Earthbound

Eveee will be a playable character in the game, to help boost Pokemon Go Eveee's sales.

they gave us the same exact pokeball summon we had in the past game instead
 

Kinsei

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any chance they've included the game mode where you use any character to break targets around the level ? I was disappointed the Wii U version didn't include it.
Probably not, but if they do it will just be a few stages you do with every character like in Brawl. There's no way that the developers will create 67+ unique BTS stages.
 

Anth0ny

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if young link's final smash isn't fierce deity, sakurai fucked up

and if pokemon trainer doesn't have a gary oak echo featuring bulbasaur, wartortle and mega charizard x, sakurai fucked up
 

IntelliHeath

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Oct 25, 2017
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Huh, treehouse intermission focussing on Bayo's guns in a case, guess that set props leak was actually on point?

Yup, they even have Duck Hunt's can, and almost everything from that leak made to the list.

Battlefield picture MAKE sense why they took picture from top review because they want the company to make Battlefield for floor prop.
 

Crayolan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh yeah, forgot about that one. I really don't think we are getting anything beyond echoes or frankenclones from here on out.

Sakurai said there weren't "that many more newcomers" left. Why would he say that if there were no more? He'd either shut up or outright say there aren't any more. "That many" implies at least 2 more.
 

ned_ballad

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A frankenclone or echo still counts as a newcomer.
The way they're handling the PR around clones this time around, they don't really. They're being announced in a different way.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just shadow drop a quick Dark Samus or Shadow trailer at some point, with no warning or fanfare as if it was just a regular trailer for Smash.
 

Geno

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I just realized there's a chance they won't reveal all newcomers and leave some in the roster to unlock like previous games.
 

Neiteio

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think Sakurai knows the hype train well enough to hold onto at least one newcomer for a reveal shortly before launch
 

woopWOOP

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99% chance it inverts your controls like in Earthbound
Yeah, exactly!
That shit was so annoying to deal with in Earthbound, it's gonna be chaos when tapping a direction suddenly walks you over the edge instead.
Then you quickly change directions, but now that direction sends you even further off stage :D
 

Alexhex

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't really think DK looks worse. In smash 4 it's just a more realistic style texture and some weird overlay fur wrapped around him. It's not like we had the fur shading from tropical freeze, smash 4's DK was actually very similar to his brawl look. I do actually think the texture work is better in ultimate, but I can unserstand not liking his coloring as much
 

Neiteio

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really think DK looks worse. In smash 4 it's just a more realistic style texture and some weird overlay fur wrapped around him. It's not like we had the fur shading from tropical freeze, smash 4's DK was actually very similar to his brawl look. I do actually think the texture work is better in ultimate, but I can unserstand not liking his coloring as much
Yeah, I think this is the best-looking DK in Smash. I like how it evokes the flatter, more textured look of his DKC renders, as well as the brighter colors schemes.
 

ned_ballad

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Oct 25, 2017
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They've been suspiciously avoiding showing Daisy's down special. It's the only one of her specials not shown.

I think maybe she plucks something that isn't a turnip and they want to hide it for a bit. Like she picks up a flower or something.
 

WestEgg

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Oct 25, 2017
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User Banned (1 Day): Ignoring multiple modposts not to discuss the port/sequel status of Super Smash Bros Ultimate
Yo its_Ditz , wanna settle our bet?

Here's where we last outlined terms

To summarize what we agreed would constitute a port:

  1. The Roster of the previous game will return in full, barring an allotment of 2 3rd party characters who may have been cut due to licensing reasons. This is true of SSBU
  2. Likewise, all stages will return from the Wii U version, except those associated with an allotted cut 3rd party character. Currently unknown, but possible
  3. Excepting Link, who we've seen will have the breath of the wild design, all returning character models from the previous game will carry over to the new game, with some consideration for minor stylistic updates. Minor stylistic updates may have been too poorly defined, it seems many characters are very similar, though characters like Zelda, Ganonodorf, and Game and Watch got pretty big overhauls.
  4. Likewise, all character animations and moves will carry over, with the previous consideration for stylistic updates. Same potential ambiguity as above
  5. All trophies from the Wii U version return, keeping the same models and descriptions. Currently Unknown
  6. The soundtracks will remain largely the same, with more than 80% of the music being assoicated with Roster additions, allowing 20% of the new music to be arrangements for currently represented franchises. Currently Unknown
We also added an final provision:
"the general community consensus following release (or E3/Smash Invitational, where we'll likely have the answer) is that the game is a port of Smash Wii U in the vein of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, as opposed to something akin to Brawl>Wii U." This is also somewhat contentious at the moment.

So, my thoughts are personally that this would for all intents and purposes be Smash 5, but I can certainly see how people would argue there's enough ambiguous up there to argue the opposite. So, I'm willing to let this be settled in two ways:

  1. We decide to split the difference, no one changes their avatar
  2. We let the rest of the good people of this thread decide.
Thoughts?
 

ArchedThunder

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really think DK looks worse. In smash 4 it's just a more realistic style texture and some weird overlay fur wrapped around him. It's not like we had the fur shading from tropical freeze, smash 4's DK was actually very similar to his brawl look. I do actually think the texture work is better in ultimate, but I can unserstand not liking his coloring as much
The big thing for me is that they remodeled DK to make him more accurate to his franchise and the whoop-de-doo in his hair has physics now. A bit of fur shading would be nice, but the blended alpha plains in Smash 4 didn't look good.
 

Berordn

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Oct 26, 2017
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I did. Motherfuckers said don't ever expect Daisy to be in Smash, but they ain't got shit to say now.
I think most people were generally of the mind of not expecting Daisy to be more than a low-key clone. She was always possible as a costume or clone, but that was muddied thanks to the bad faith arguments of one poster.

memoryman was probably the only person acting as though she had a legitimate shot at being some highly regarded newcomer
 

Razmos

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Will not buy
 

Golnei

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The way they're handling the PR around clones this time around, they don't really. They're being announced in a different way.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just shadow drop a quick Dark Samus or Shadow trailer at some point, with no warning or fanfare as if it was just a regular trailer for Smash.

Maybe Celica's could be attached to the Choose Your Legends Round 2 trailer for FE Heroes - Shulk got a Japan-only direct for his newcomer trailer, and as you said, the more low-key way Daisy got announced would make me think it'd be possible to see some new clones occasionally show up in a manner similar to how Sonic got a quick ingame confirmation trailer for Smash 4.
 

woopWOOP

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Oct 26, 2017
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Btw, yesterday's Treehouse stream had an Inkling and Ridley amiibo incased in glass, with two empty amiibo bases next to them. Did they explain what these were about?
They've been suspiciously avoiding showing Daisy's down special. It's the only one of her specials not shown.

I think maybe she plucks something that isn't a turnip and they want to hide it for a bit. Like she picks up a flower or something.
Anything Mario Land related she could possibly grab?
Exploding turtle shells?.... Okay I got nothing.
 

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Direct did actually leak slightly ahead of time (this was about 14 hours before the reveal).

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ned_ballad, you see this one on during one of your dives?
 
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