man I could see people actually latching onto this rhetoric the same way people latched onto the "well we don't know the terms of the deal" silliness with Minecraft
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If your Fortnite account has ever logged in on a PS4, it cannot be used on Switch
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There's probably a lot more cross over between Switch and PS4 then Xbox and PS4 too, so more people getting burnt by this shit.
I'm extra annoyed as Sony probably knew they'd face similar backlash with the iOS version, so just allowed it there.
Yes, but it shouldn't PERMANENTLY LOCK YOU OUT of those consoles even if you unlink it from PSN!
Before it was XB1 Fortnite didn't play nice with PS4 Fortnite account wise
Yet both let PC and Mobile benefit off cross progression
Now Switch comes into play, XB1 allows the progression to be allowed just as they allow Minecraft
Sony on the other hand hasnt
So we know that much
Now cross play is one thing. Cross progression is another thing
Something with Sony and Epic with their linking has something on the backend be a problem
Why does everyone keep saying Paragon let me tell you some info please:
Paragon could be played PS4 or PC
You could buy in game currency "Gold" with real money
The thing was PC and PS4 Gold were separate from each other
If you bought $10 on PC roughly 1000 Gold, you'll never see it appear on PS4 and the same going the opposite way
What you could was buy items, skins, boosters, that stuff became shared
I'm guessing there's remnants of something that Sony and Epic have to dole out with that's keeping from the account linking being just forgotten
Paragon is Paragon, but whatever deal was struck with whatever linking infrastructure back then, still has some legacy going forward
No one knew Fortnite BR was even a thing 2 years ago, hell there wasn't even cross progression or cross play as it warranted now with certain modes
So it might be that too
Not making excuses, but it can't just be a flip of the switch and everything is golden
Like some others I originally thought this was strictly about cross-play. Looking at it from a business perspective, Sony blocking cross-play seemed shitty but still understandable as they're the dominant market leader. It felt like they were getting guilt tripped, like Microsoft was making a fuss about it because it was easy PR.
But this? This is absolutely ridiculous. Just logging into your epic account on a PS4 automatically locks you to PS4. You can't play with that account on any other platform. Doesn't matter if you spent good money on your account on other platforms, you get 100% locked into PS4 just by logging in. That's insane. It's the most anti-consumer practice in this industry since Xbox One's debut. Unbelievable.
But this? This is absolutely ridiculous. Just logging into your epic account on a PS4 automatically locks you to PS4. You can't play with that account on any other platform. Doesn't matter if you spent good money on your account on other platforms, you get 100% locked into PS4 just by logging in. That's insane. It's the most anti-consumer practice in this industry since Xbox One's debut. Unbelievable.
I was only stating the policy Sony seems to have. The profile not crossing over to another console might legally violate this policy. Sony don't see PC and mobile as a direct competitor since they allow them, unlike Xbox and Switch.
That's cross play, the thing everyone talking about in here is cross progression
People want to pay once on whatever platform of their choice and said stuff carries over from platform to platform
Your Epic Account follows you to anything it has access to to play that game and your goodies come along too
Gonna take a few days on why Sony and Epic have this weird setup for whatever purpose, that craters the account to one platform, while others let the account just flow between them
Man, would Epic have the balls to do that? Also wouldn't that be really risky? I can't see it.
I thought it's common sense but somehow I have the impressions that lots of people still believe that platform holders are hosting the server.
Yes. I also made a new account and bought the battle pass. Even tho I bought the 60euro version last year for STW. That mode is dead anyway.
Fuck Sony.
It's been going on for months. They won't address it. And no one has the balls to hold their feet to the fire since they're the market leader.
Question: Is it wise for me to use an Epic Account if I'm playing this game for the very first time? I've never played Fortnite before. What's the downside of NOT creating one?
If you don't create one it automatically creates one for you--there's no way around having it; it's either something you purposefully create or something the game creates so that you can "save" your game. All of your progress is tied to the Epic account and you won't be able to share progress/items with other consoles.
Ah, okay. It was asking me so that's why I asked. And I thought your progreas/items *we're* shared between consoles/platforms except the PS4.
Where the hell am I defending Sony? Thanks for the personal attack.
Even as a mainly Sony guy, this fucking sucks. Ugh, what the fuck Sony!
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People should have been this up in arms when they did it with Xbox and it might have already been fixed.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Even as someone who this doesn't really directly affect (I downloaded it on Switch for giggles but had zero intention of playing it seriously) this is ticking me off the more time passes. It doesn't help that Epic takes at least a bit of the blame here by this not being mentioned anywhere upfront by them; seeing posts on reddit from folks who have never even DOWNLOADED Fortnite on PS4 but played Paragon or Unreal and are also affected by this. It's fucking wild. I don't even feel good about playing it on PS4 right now, I got on when I usually do but I'm just bummed out and got off almost immediately. Not giving Epic or Sony any money until we get some sort of statement from Epic at the very least (regarding the no heads up/unlinking thing). I was looking forward to getting the Starter Pack 2 as well :/
So you haven't read this thread, what you actually linked, or mana's posts in this thread, got it
So you haven't read this thread, what you actually linked, or mana's posts in this thread, got it
To be honest I don't play Fortnite so this situation doesn't involve me, however I feel it's worth mentioning how another cross platform game, Phantasy Star Online 2, handles this same sort of situation as a point of reference (since it has PC, Vita, PS4 and Switch versions). In PSO2 Switch owners can't play in the same blocks as PS4/PSV players however they can use their same account and characters, once your PSN account is linked to your PSO2 account it can't normally be unlinked, however customer services will do so for you if you contact them. So basically, if Sony have actually put restrictions in place that led to this situation then they are hand waving them for Sega but not Epic.
Yeesh, Sony has really been going in the wrong direction lately and Xbox has been going in the right.
Sure Sony has great games and all but they are really starting to lose me with things like this.
Xbox has started winning me over lately, even though I have never really been a big fan, but this makes Sony look bad...
Sure Sony has great games and all but they are really starting to lose me with things like this.
Xbox has started winning me over lately, even though I have never really been a big fan, but this makes Sony look bad...
What a bunch of twats....this is past-Nintendo level fuckery here.
I just dont understand why Sony do this. The damage outweights the benefits by far. If theres any, actually.
Anyway, I think Epic has some responsability here. It would clearly show to multiplatorm users about this loud and clear, like a big info modal before attempting to use Fortnite on PS4, and its consequences.
Anyway, I think Epic has some responsability here. It would clearly show to multiplatorm users about this loud and clear, like a big info modal before attempting to use Fortnite on PS4, and its consequences.
I'm 100% sure this is illegal, especially when you bought all your stuff on another platform than Sony's?
Sad to say it, but I agree with you. I've been a longtime fan of Sony's systems and games, too. This is really unbelievable. I truly hope Sony shifts their policy in a favorable position pronto, because they're looking absolutely diabolical in gamers' eyes right now.
I've been hoping that the media would hammer Sony hard on these types of issues (cross-platform play, backward compatibility, etc.) for the last two years, but it never happens. The problem is that many journalists get their games and add-ons for free, so they don't have the same type of attachment (emotionally, mentally, or financially) that most ordinary gamers have. I'd love to be proven wrong here, and see some real hard-hitting questions posed to Sony executives.
