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Official Microsoft E3 2018 Conference Thread
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They should have really cut the Division demo and shown something else. That was awful. All the worry about Crackdown 3 at this point is granted, unfortunately. Cuphead was nice to see. A lot of good talking points from Phil Spencer. To see the same three major IP yet again (i.e. Gears, Halo, Forza) was predictable and boring. A great unveiling of 3rd party titles (DMC5, new Dontnod game, new FromSoftware game). Lots of trailers of games we already knew about (KH3, Tomb Raider). It's a shame they didn't demo one more game.
Undeniably the biggest reveal, however, were the acquisitions... I hope for their longevity. A re-committment into building a 1st party was paramount to see. And they totally did. However, it's one thing buying up studios, it's another to nurture and cultivate an environment/studio for years and years to make great work (akin to Nintendo or Sony with Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Suckerpunch etc). There's principly nothing wrong with their approach. Sony did the same with Media Molecule (or a few others). More importantly is how they treat them henceforth and what the expectations of a Ninja Theory are, for example. A new studio as well (appropriately titled The Initative) is part of that long-term plan, I hope. It's all early days I feel... but the NeXtbox (Project Scarlet) will be a console to definitely look out for, though.
It's definitely been their best conference in years. It's also clear from yesterday that MS wants to rejuvenate its 1st party efforts, as well as wanting narrative-focused titles. It's a clear statement and an important one. That Cyberpunk reveal was a strong ending as well - loved it! A very strong showing all-in-all. It's an 8 out of 10 from me.
Edit: so many typos... shouldn't type up E3 thoughts on a phone, I guess.
Undeniably the biggest reveal, however, were the acquisitions... I hope for their longevity. A re-committment into building a 1st party was paramount to see. And they totally did. However, it's one thing buying up studios, it's another to nurture and cultivate an environment/studio for years and years to make great work (akin to Nintendo or Sony with Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Suckerpunch etc). There's principly nothing wrong with their approach. Sony did the same with Media Molecule (or a few others). More importantly is how they treat them henceforth and what the expectations of a Ninja Theory are, for example. A new studio as well (appropriately titled The Initative) is part of that long-term plan, I hope. It's all early days I feel... but the NeXtbox (Project Scarlet) will be a console to definitely look out for, though.
It's definitely been their best conference in years. It's also clear from yesterday that MS wants to rejuvenate its 1st party efforts, as well as wanting narrative-focused titles. It's a clear statement and an important one. That Cyberpunk reveal was a strong ending as well - loved it! A very strong showing all-in-all. It's an 8 out of 10 from me.
Edit: so many typos... shouldn't type up E3 thoughts on a phone, I guess.
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In know right... like literally WTF with some people especially in this thread.
it makes any real conversation hard to happen.
What mythical "beast" is this you are talking about? its no mysterious thing, its called TROLLING, and supposedly should be not allowed in a forum that wants to be what resetera wants to be.
it was different at start, but I guess it was just people PRETENDING, and that be for ALL people, users and not users.
Well people could then show their disappointment in other ways that isn't attacking anyone. Calling Microsoft harmful to the industry or telling them to fuck off for acquiring studios while at the same time hyping up Guerilla, Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog games comes off as bit silly. Maybe buy an Xbox if you really want to play those games then :/ PC is probably an option too, unlike with those three others I mentioned. So if we should be angry about acquiring studios, I'd start with ones that only release on one platform. Would make more sense, no? I mean if we want to really look at it reasonably and logically, games releasing on two platforms is better than just one?
To me the confrence was great and exciting specifically because I have a PC, I might be misunderstanding what you are saying though. But it was easy to list 10 games that are on my "wishlist" from the confrence. Even games that are only available on Microsoft platforms (Xbox, Windows) so not just games I can play on PS or Switch too.
I see, I'm not one to give personal opinions about those franchises since I've only played the first Halo and didn't like even that one. But you are probably more experienced with those series and I can't deny how you feel about them. But critical reception doesn't seem to be awful at all even for the new entries, though it's true that even that seems to gone down just a bit except for Forza. And I really don't believe that people wouldn't want to see new God of War or Uncharted after an entry they thought was a disappointment. Like God of War Ascension didn't turn people against God of War. The series is probably more celebrated than ever now. I don't use Golden Abyss as another example since it wasn't ND and it was also portable. But Lost Legacy will do. And Microsofts only goal clearly isn't to get people on Xbox, but alternatively play those games on PC (or both). As evident by a PC exclusive they announced, also they are selling gamepass subscriptions to PC gamers. Let's not exclude us from this discussion please, it's not just about Xbox. Microsoft caters to two different platforms.
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I caught the tail end of the Microsoft conference from my Xbox on Mixer in 4K and was blown away by the visuals. Gears of War 5 and Cyberpunk 2077 looked "next-gen" to me considering I hadn't see anything that good on Xbox. I even believe HDR was on, as I think that some bright areas were truly blindingly bright.
But now, I'm trying to rewatch the start of the Microsoft conference in 4K, but I don't think that's possible on Xbox anymore? It seems only the live stream is in 4K?
On Mixer you can't go back and watch the Video on Demand as you don't get quality options, but I'm sure it's not in 4K. I checked Twitch and Youtube and both apps don't support 4K/HDR on Xbox One X.
Btw, to me, that's the best Xbox conference in years.
But now, I'm trying to rewatch the start of the Microsoft conference in 4K, but I don't think that's possible on Xbox anymore? It seems only the live stream is in 4K?
On Mixer you can't go back and watch the Video on Demand as you don't get quality options, but I'm sure it's not in 4K. I checked Twitch and Youtube and both apps don't support 4K/HDR on Xbox One X.
Btw, to me, that's the best Xbox conference in years.
You're absolutely correct...trolling for trolling sake is definitely there. As far as ERA is concerned, while a good many threads tend to have a shelf life when they devolve into toxic crap, some maintain some semblance of sanity so I still come back. It hasn't reached GAF levels just yet, but I can see it getting there.
I wasn't trying to diminish the crap that happens with my "nature of the beast" comment. I tend to ignore the trollers because there are some people with good, thoughtful comments that I want to read and hear from.
Actually Ascension is a great example. After that none of us wanted another GoW. If you were on the previous forum we were all hoping for something brand new and when Stigs game was shelved it was a big blow. The only reason the E3 reveal was so huge was because it wasn't a God of War that any of us expected. It almost looked like a brand new game. I assure you had it been more of the same it would have met with a large amount of backlash
When you need fuel for console wars literally anything will do. Too many indie games, not enough indie games. Too many 3rd parties not enough third parties etc. where's halo it's been years. Oh great another halo game. It's not logical so don't even argue
I didn't want to make a new thread for this, but I was wondering if anyone else had problems streaming the conference on Mixer via Xbox One?
Every goddamn time I try to use Mixer (on various Xbox One consoles at this point) I get like 5-10 minutes into a stream and the video just freezes. Chat still goes just fine, internet in my house is fine, I just can't find an explanation.
I ran into that during the Xbox stream and had to switch to YouTube. From there, I had no buffering or loss of quality for the remainder of the stream. I don't get it.
Every goddamn time I try to use Mixer (on various Xbox One consoles at this point) I get like 5-10 minutes into a stream and the video just freezes. Chat still goes just fine, internet in my house is fine, I just can't find an explanation.
I ran into that during the Xbox stream and had to switch to YouTube. From there, I had no buffering or loss of quality for the remainder of the stream. I don't get it.
dude, you are giving bruceleeroy credit for being experienced in xbox franchises. better you give me credit for walking on planet Jupiter.
Yo Bruceleeroy , what level are you on Halo 5 man? Budi here ate that you speak like an experienced player.
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Fanboys like bruceleeroy are main reason I hardly come to the gaming side anymore.
It was a great show, moving at a brisk clip, unburdened with cringeworthy banter, peppered with noteworthy announcements and premieres, and positively stuffed with games: 50 of the things, a lot of them looking rather good. Just as significantly, it felt addressed to Xbox gamers directly, rather than pundits, analysts and stakeholders.
This opening succinctly sums up why MS's show resonated so much with me. Finally getting an enhanced X patch for Prey also makes me a happy gamer. Gaming is kicking so much ass right now on all platforms.
I thoroughly enjoyed the conference, one of the best of MS showing since 2013 to be honest, i've been wanting to get myself a xbox one x for a few months now, mostly because of the multiples.
I'll be completely honest, now that i've seen how much MS is willing to invest in to their first party titles, and being very committed to everything, i'll make sure to myself a xbox one x at the end of the month!.
I'll be completely honest, now that i've seen how much MS is willing to invest in to their first party titles, and being very committed to everything, i'll make sure to myself a xbox one x at the end of the month!.
It wasn't a discussion I participated in. But checking back at the discussion of GoW 4 art leaks, besides some people being fed up with the character of Kratos it sure did spark up many pages of excited discussion and speculation. Didn't catch people wanting them to shelve the franchise altogether or blaming Sony for milking it, just some wanting to get rid of Kratos. I feel "None of us wanted another GoW" isn't quite accurate.
Edit: Even you were in the thread disappointed it leaked since you rather wanted to be surprised. You seem to remember wrong how you felt about the franchise then. Since you wouldn't lie about it of course.
Edit 2: Also on record saying that you love the game. How the hell can you tell me none of you wanted another GoW when you are praising Ascension to high heavens yourself. You are being dishonest as hell, so better to drop this discussion.
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Because most of the games shown are playable elsewhere. You should do everything in your power to not play them on Xbox.
Lol this is funny. I'm not a console warrior as I own all so I dont take anything personal, but I was at the previous forum too and remember your OTs lol. Not trying to argue but just thought of the irony.
But you would agree the sentiment jez described is pretty toxic, right?
I think this an ok conference to build confidence in the next gen xbox in a few years, the studio acquisitions were a good start.
But, for the current gen I just don't see how this conference did anything to draw in anyone who wasn't already an xbox fan to begin with. Halo/Gears/Forza are great for people who like them but they're not drawing in non-xbox fans.
I know people don't want to hear this, but this conference did little for people who already find the xboxs exclusive library lacking compared to its competitors.
Especially when a lot of the games were multiplats that will look good and run well on a console we may already own.
Hopefully by the launch of the next gen xbox the exclusive library will have more appeal, it's the only thing keeping me out at the moment.
Last year I had similar issues while watching on (base) Xbox One. Since then I've gotten a new router (still hardwired) and was watching on Xbox One X. I had also rebooted my router and modem the day before the conferences. The stream was flawless. For me, Mixer has had better performance and visual quality when compared against Youtube or Twitch this E3.
I meant as far as me being excited for what is coming for just my xbox one x. I'm always excited for PC but I'd like more exclusives to play on my xbox. However I've come to the realization that the direction MS is taking means less full xbox one exclusives and that is a bit disappointing to me. Hope that changes with the acquiring of new studios. However right now I only ever use my xbox to watch uhd movies or play BC games.
I thought it was a good conference. Lots'o games. Glad to see the Japanese game support.
Session, Dying Light, FromSoft game, KH3, Cyberpunk, Division 2 all piqued my interest
Only negatives were the "we bought more first party studios" part. Not sure that actually belongs in a conference, but i guess it is a good will statement to show they finally understand what the right direction is.
Also feelsbad at the Gamepass part with Net Neutrality being on ice now.
I give it a B
Session, Dying Light, FromSoft game, KH3, Cyberpunk, Division 2 all piqued my interest
Only negatives were the "we bought more first party studios" part. Not sure that actually belongs in a conference, but i guess it is a good will statement to show they finally understand what the right direction is.
Also feelsbad at the Gamepass part with Net Neutrality being on ice now.
I give it a B
That fanboys would rather see Ninja Theory die than go with MS?
Where can I see these fanboys?
Sure. but just a clarification, do you consider games only available on Xbox/PC to be exclusives or should they ditch/reduce their PC support? If you have a well capable PC it would be like taking a saw to the branch you are sitting on =) PC isn't a competitor to Microsoft it's one of their platforms. Asking just so I'm not misunderstanding.
Ninja Theory's Twitter and in the comments section of their video explaining why they agreed to be purchased.
Microsoft has been very safe gameplay wise on what they do with those Franchises. Hopefully they begin to do new stuff.
Gears 5 looked better gameplay wise, Tactics looks interesting and Horizons looks fantastic.
So we'll see.
I don't see a single "die" comment on their video:
Top 10 comments are:
Well done guys, UK blood going strong
Good decision. Please tell the suits to keep making single player campaigns. Not everybody want massive online multiplayer games.
As a PS4 user I'm gonna miss you guys. Hope you all the best in your future P.S. Melina is a treasure please keep her
I would consider getting an Xbox, simply for this studio alone.
Please get enslaved on the BC I wanna play it agIn on my x
Congrats. I'm happy for Ninja Theory and Xbox. This will provide Xbox great games, and Ninja Theory a big budget to create breathtaking games.
As long as you can release your next games on Steam and GOG, I'm fine with this decision.
This is great news. I want these talented people to have the budget of triple A games! Looking forward to what you guys have in store for us ❤
s a fan of Ninja Theory, I say good on you, you deserve it, as someone who doesn't game on Windows and Xbox, I will miss you! Good luck and well done!
Who cares as Long as their next Game is good
Some others;
I always play on Playstation so i guess i'm fucked...But i wish you the best of luck.
Well...as a ps4 player I'm disappointed. But hope you the best
Better then to be bought by EA i guess. So it could be worse.
As a playstation fan of this studio, this is pretty surprising to me especially since you guys have been much closer to PS as opposed to Xbox for a while, I'm glad your future is more secure now but I'm very disappointed to know that you wont be publishing on my platform of choice or even steam/gog for that matter because you guys are incredibly talented and very special to me and it's sad to see you go. I wont assume anything, I'm sure you all felt that this was necessary, here's hoping that they truly did give you the deal you wanted and that you wont end up like Rare. Hope you guys still get to be yourselves moving forward
This is the right video?
There's always people that no matter how great something is, they'll call it shit. It's generally not worth acknowledging those people.
coz PS fanboys are attacking NT on twitter and shitting on their YT channel.. They rather see them shut down than joining MS.. These PS fanboys can goto hell. These are not gamers, they are slaves of Sony.
NT team clearly said they were struggling to make games and had to put their entire saving on the line to make Hellblade.. No one one helping them or giving them funding. MS offered them help with full creative freedom and also showed them how everything works at MS before acquiring them. NT joined after MS agreed to their terms and condition.
I used to consider them separate platforms since one is a console and other a pc and there used to be exclusives only available on consoles but I guess that is not the case anymore. It's no biggie to me since I do have a very capable pc. Besides I still like my one x since I like shiny things and I still find plenty of use for it between uhd s and BC 360 games.
I see that sentence again and again but Ninja Theory wasn't going to close down especially after the success of Hellblade, they just won't have to look too much at their finances now that's all. And they can create even more ambitious games while maintaining their creative independance.
With that said, don't pay attention to salty fanboys.
Some key responses to their pinned tweet:
I don't buy into the whole "fighting back" against folks like this though. I'd rather ignore them. Video games are supposed to be about fun.
That's the right video. From that same comments section:
There are tons of RIP comments as well.
I can keep going but you get the point. People are mad. I'm pretty confident that had Sony been the company to scoop them up, those same people would be praising Sony for giving them a bigger opportunity. But, it is YouTube/social media, outrage is expected.
You should watch the video explaining their dev process up until this point.
Yeah, reading back through the conversation you may be right. My bad.
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