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Olengie · Nov 12, 2017

Grim Patron said:
So ROM 2064 is buy 1 standard and hope to get 1 of 3 covers and if you buy all 3 you may get all 3 covers? what is this loot boxes?

Buy 2 Standard and 1 CE. LOL.

I honestly just want one. Hopefully I get the the third cover. I'm not a super hardcore collector to buy 3 copies of the same game for the goddamm variants. That money can go to other games. imo

ConanEdogawa said:
Windjammers is going to be $29.99? That's $15 over the digital price.

Normally it would be $24.99 but it has an extra $5 so that DotEmu can get a cut of the profits. And to offset the cost of the manual.

Grim Patron · Nov 12, 2017

Is there even a CE for ROM?

Feels weird that Im missing out on nex machina and 2064 rom which are some of the titles I was super pumped to buy physical thanks to release timing and cover stuff.

Shizuka · Nov 12, 2017

Seafoam Gaming · Nov 12, 2017

Basically everything important is gone now outside of the ultra expensive bundle. Was really painful for me to sit through the whole weekend without jumping on the LM CE, but money being tight along with the order not shipping until December was what made me not go for it. I'll have to buy it off eBay later, which I'm nervous about doing as it could spike in price, or remain mostly the same like eBay listings for older LRG games like Flinthook.

If 2064 gets a CE though and it includes an OST that has good songs (Since I'd be playing it 100% blind) then I'd be in a really tough jam. I want to play it regardless so at least the normal edition is something I'm gonna get, but the collector/unboxer in me wants all CEs for cool games. Especially with how great their CEs for Wonder Boy and DARIUSBURST were

N E R O · Nov 12, 2017

Clive said:
I think a major reason why SLG's release isn't selling out is related to quality, or at least the game's ability to attract people who actually want to play it. I can only speak for myself but the reason I did not buy Tokyo 42 is because I doesn't look like something I'd play. All indie publishers except LRG will have to have better known and better liked games than Tokyo 42 if they want to sell out a print like 2,600 copies fast. I only bought two eastasiasoft titles so far because the others looked kind of "meh" and those are coincidentally the only two that are sold out: Cursed Castilla and Ghost Blade. I believe they sold out because they look like/are good or at least attractive games while the less interesting eastasiasoft titles take a long time to sell.

LRG is the only company who has the luxury of not having to put out quality titles to sell 2,600 copies fast. They have a fanbase and a network plus it's well known that you can resell many of their releases for profit, or at least get your money back.

That sums everything, I would like to add that SLG releases will be more expensive when you do the conversation to USD or CAD. Also they don't handle import duties like LRG. They wrote a pretty vague comment about that in their FAQ page.
I think that they have to bring good games to the table in order to be able to compete. LRG was the pioneer that's why they have that leeway for releasing mediocre games and keep selling out like you have mentioned.

I am excited for Umihara Kawase on PS Vita, pretty sure that one will sellout faster

Deleted member 62 · Nov 13, 2017

N E R O said:
That sums everything, I would like to add that SLG releases will be more expensive when you do the conversation to USD or CAD. Also they don't handle import duties like LRG. They wrote a pretty vague comment about that in their FAQ page.

LRG also doesn't handle custom fees. You need to pay them on top of the already ridiculous shipping fees (unless your customs office just waives it because they don't care).

Edit: Apparently this is out-of-date information and custom fees are paid now.

ConanEdogawa · Nov 13, 2017

A 3-pack is up for 2064: Read Only Memories: https://limited-run-games.myshopify.com/collections/games/products/limited-run-105-2064-3-pack-ps4

Not sure yet if I'll just get one or go for the bundle. Not interested in Crawl.

Lordys · Nov 13, 2017

I'll just get one copie of crawl and 2064 this time (love the arts but 3 copies of the same game ? Heh i have my limits and i also want the psvita version xO).

Semoreh · Nov 13, 2017

I'm still bummed by that 3-covers thing, though. To me it is a very bad idea that will only frustrate some.

And I haven't decided myself about Claire. From what I see it is very close to Lone Survivor, and I rated it a mere 6/10 at the time. My main gripe was that the 2D navigation in a 3D map really messes up with your sense of orientation, and it gets old real fast to check you map every door to know which way you're going. I played one game like that, and I did fine, but I'm not super excited to play another one...

dallow_bg · Nov 13, 2017

I hope the Vita version doesn't do that.

Ventara · Nov 13, 2017

Do any of you think Atelier (Ayesha and the Dusk trilogy) still has a chance of happening? They were and still are my number 1 dream physical games I want from LRG, but I feel like the window for them is slowly starting to close as we move into 2018. I REALLY hope they happen.

Shizuka · Nov 13, 2017

Ventara said:
Do any of you think Atelier (Ayesha and the Dusk trilogy) still has a chance of happening? They were and still are my number 1 dream physical games I want from LRG, but I feel like the window for them is slowly starting to close as we move into 2018. I REALLY hope they happen.

At this point in time, I don't think so.

N E R O · Nov 13, 2017

Shiggy said:
LRG also doesn't handle custom fees. You need to pay them on top of the already ridiculous shipping fees (unless your customs office just waives it because they don't care).

I am pretty sure that Doug has mentioned that they are paying a portion for customes in his interview with Metal Jesus Rock but maybe i am wrong. I don't know where r u located but for me that's the cheapest when I import from US..18 CAD$ for the heavy shipment ain't bad

LimitedRunGames · Nov 13, 2017

N E R O said:
I am pretty sure that Doug has mentioned that they are paying a portion for customes in his interview with Metal Jesus Rock but maybe i am wrong. I don't know where r u located but for me that's the cheapest when I import from US..18 CAD$ for the heavy shipment ain't bad

Yes, we pay customs fees for most countries.

Deleted member 62 · Nov 13, 2017

N E R O said:
I am pretty sure that Doug has mentioned that they are paying a portion for customes in his interview with Metal Jesus Rock but maybe i am wrong. I don't know where r u located but for me that's the cheapest when I import from US..18 CAD$ for the heavy shipment ain't bad

It sounds as if they changed it earlier this year? Last year I was still hit by custom fees, but at least everything was correctly declared and I could pay the fees directly to the postman. For Retro City Rampage (not a LRG release!) I need to drive to the customs office now.

Yian · Nov 13, 2017

Shiggy said:
It sounds as if they changed it earlier this year? Last year I was still hit by custom fees, but at least everything was correctly declared and I could pay the fees directly to the postman. For Retro City Rampage (not a LRG release!) I need to drive to the customs office now.

I haven't paid customs for LRG parcels ever

Oldmario · Nov 13, 2017

ConanEdogawa said:
A 3-pack is up for 2064: Read Only Memories: https://limited-run-games.myshopify.com/collections/games/products/limited-run-105-2064-3-pack-ps4

Not sure yet if I'll just get one or go for the bundle. Not interested in Crawl.

i kinda wish they would sell them all as 3 seperate listings but at 2064 copies each it's going to be a blood bath

Curler · Nov 13, 2017

https://gematsu.com/2017/11/game-paradise-cruisinmix-launches-early-2018-west

I hope we'll be seeing this on PS4 by LRG...

Shizuka · Nov 13, 2017

Curler said:
https://gematsu.com/2017/11/game-paradise-cruisinmix-launches-early-2018-west

I hope we'll be seeing this on PS4 by LRG...

I'm sure we will.

Lakeside · Nov 13, 2017

Semoreh said:
I'm still bummed by that 3-covers thing, though. To me it is a very bad idea that will only frustrate some..

Wow that's horrible. To me it's looking like LRG just seeing how far they can push the milking.

Dyna · Nov 13, 2017

Ha, of course there's a 2064 triple pack to get all the cover art variants... Not a fan of such practices. Most likely skipping that and Crawl, more intrigued by Windjammers.

BRSxIgnition · Nov 13, 2017

Still no reply regarding the blacklist situation support ticket. Is it because it's a holiday?

Lakeside · Nov 13, 2017

BRSxIgnition said:
Still no reply regarding the blacklist situation support ticket. Is it because it's a holiday?

I had a ticket that took days to get a response of "we're busy but will get to you sometime". I think actual thought being put into it took a month to 5 weeks. It's one reason I chuckle when people get frustrated and hit up the owners on Twitter, only to told that they should contact support for assistance. I mean I get that they don't have the cycles to help everyone, but apparently neither does their support staff.

LimitedRunGames · Nov 13, 2017

Lakeside said:
Wow that's horrible. To me it's looking like LRG just seeing how far they can push the milking.

No, it was the developer having awesome art done asking if we could do 3 covers at 2064 each. Something that was decided almost a year ago.

I know the limit on the milking and really trying to be better about it.

Lakeside · Nov 13, 2017

LimitedRunGames said:
No, it was the developer having awesome art done asking if we could do 3 covers at 2064 each. Something that was decided almost a year ago.

I know the limit on the milking and really trying to be better about it.

Still shaking my fist, but I do appreciate the clarification and comment. :-)

Olengie · Nov 13, 2017

Need moar announcements

dgco86 · Nov 13, 2017

Ugh I can't decide if I should try for the 3 pack. I worry that if they do the same thing on the potential Switch and Vita releases of 2064, I'll be compelled to get the 3 pack for those platforms too...

Bane · Nov 13, 2017

Engadget put up this story about the new ESRB rule affecting these smaller companies. We've already seen some of the the effects but it's an interesting read regardless.

It's not hard to imagine a price increase from LRG is going to be coming at some point.

Oldmario · Nov 13, 2017

LimitedRunGames said:
No, it was the developer having awesome art done asking if we could do 3 covers at 2064 each. Something that was decided almost a year ago.

I know the limit on the milking and really trying to be better about it.

was making 2 of the covers a reverse and the 3rd a PSX cover out of the question?

BRSxIgnition · Nov 13, 2017

Lakeside said:
I had a ticket that took days to get a response of "we're busy but will get to you sometime". I think actual thought being put into it took a month to 5 weeks. It's one reason I chuckle when people get frustrated and hit up the owners on Twitter, only to told that they should contact support for assistance. I mean I get that they don't have the cycles to help everyone, but apparently neither does their support staff.

It's weird, it took them less than a day to reply letting me know there's a blacklist (for the first time) but now it's been 3 days since my reply back. Hopefully it doesn't take a month for me like it did for you, but thanks for the info.

LiK · Nov 14, 2017

OMG, why 3 versions of ROM. I loved that game but I may have to pass. Sigh

Mr_Kuschels · Nov 14, 2017

LiK said:
OMG, why 3 versions of ROM. I loved that game but I may have to pass. Sigh

Why don't you just get one copy if you enjoyed it?

LiK · Nov 14, 2017

Mr_Kuschels said:
Why don't you just get one copy if you enjoyed it?

The covers man! Gotta catch em all!

t26 · Nov 14, 2017

Oldmario said:
was making 2 of the covers a reverse and the 3rd a PSX cover out of the question?

They already have a PSX version with Nex Machina.

Brian McDoogle · Nov 14, 2017

Does Limited Run Games prey on the whales of the collecting community with these multiple covers, those that cannot help themselves and have to have them all?

dallow_bg · Nov 14, 2017

Brian McDoogle said:
Does Limited Run Games prey on the whales of the collecting community with these multiple covers, those that cannot help themselves and have to have them all?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/li...tal-to-physical-media.1507/page-5#post-912914

I don't think they need to prey as the game would sell out regardless.
It puts a strain on the the ultra collectors, but that's our own fault really.

Semoreh · Nov 14, 2017

Oldmario said:
was making 2 of the covers a reverse and the 3rd a PSX cover out of the question?

Yeah that's what I wanted to point out. I'm sure Limited Run Games had only good intentions, but then there should be a reversible cover. Sure it was maybe developers' decision but I hope LRG weighed in to tell them it was a bad one.

Brian McDoogle · Nov 14, 2017

dallow_bg said:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/li...tal-to-physical-media.1507/page-5#post-912914

I don't think they need to prey as the game would sell out regardless.
It puts a strain on the the ultra collectors, but that's our own fault really.

I guess it is more of a "whatever we sell will sell out" attitude. Like, why Lawbreakers, an online-only experience that is already outdated upon physical release being sold out. Or three copies of the same game will sell out. As someone who does not have that collection enthusiasm, who only buys what they plan to open and play, I see posts from people constantly saying that they will buy all that LRG puts out. And, I wonder, how predatory, and how much it influences them, that they can probably release anything (I used to joke about the bad Ghostbusters 2016 game) that would probably sell out by their hardcore collectors. It was more of an abstract question.

Occam · Nov 14, 2017

LimitedRunGames said:
No, it was the developer having awesome art done asking if we could do 3 covers at 2064 each. Something that was decided almost a year ago.

I know the limit on the milking and really trying to be better about it.

For me, this is the limit, though. I decided years ago that I would not buy multiple copies of a game just because of variant covers. Make the cover reversible if you want to include two different ones, or just include multiple cover sheets so users can exchange them.
In the realm of comic book collecting, variant covers helped to bring about the speculator boom of the 1990s and the subsequent crash.
Unless you include multiple covers with each copy, this practice means fleecing collectors, plain and simple. Additionally, in this age of dwindling global resources it's unnecessarily wasteful.
I urge you not to repeat this.

Nicodemic · Nov 14, 2017

Don't think we had a date and a box shot?

Edit: I'm an idiot but here's your reminder! :-P

LimitedRunGames · Nov 14, 2017

Oldmario said:
was making 2 of the covers a reverse and the 3rd a PSX cover out of the question?

We planned for this to be out much sooner but the ESRB mandate caused it to be delayed. We had already planned what would be at PSX as well.

kenta · Nov 14, 2017

Every time I buy one of these games I have to go chasing after the developers for a clean image of the box art so I can put it in Delicious Library. I'm interested in Crawl and Windjammers but thinking about tracking those images down is spoiling the thought...

BRSxIgnition · Nov 14, 2017

So, I got that reply...

Funny thing though: after looking for it in the link provided, nowhere in the FAQ - extended or not - does it ever mention being barred from further sales of the item that was cancelled. Even worse, this was the response I received when I first cancelled the order:

I was checking costs/shipping/conversion to see if I could afford it at the time (which I couldn't) and messed up - I'll own that, that was my bad. But it shouldn't stop me from being able to make good on the purchase now. I received no warning about this supposed policy, no "Hello, thanks for reaching out", no denial of the refund or anything else; just "Canceled!"

Morfid_Plays · Nov 14, 2017

Now we are over here can I ask if you guys have any plans for grim fandango and night in the woods ?

Need the grim on disc bad

Thanks xxx

Semoreh · Nov 14, 2017

BRSxIgnition said:
I was checking costs/shipping/conversion to see if I could afford it at the time (which I couldn't) and messed up - I'll own that, that was my bad. But it shouldn't stop me from being able to make good on the purchase now. I received no warning about this supposed policy, no "Hello, thanks for reaching out", no denial of the refund or anything else; just "Canceled!"

Yeah it sucks. Ask a proxy though :)
Dont waste your time in this crusade.

BRSxIgnition · Nov 14, 2017

Semoreh said:
Yeah it sucks. Ask a proxy though :)
Dont waste your time in this crusade.

It worked though - I got in contact with a member of the support team on Twitter just now and it was decided that due to the timing and communication/etc, I am now able to purchase the game when stock becomes available on January 1st.

Semoreh · Nov 14, 2017

BRSxIgnition said:
It worked though - I got in contact with a member of the support team on Twitter just now and it was decided that due to the timing and communication/etc, I am now able to purchase the game when stock becomes available on January 1st.

Neat ! I'm not someone to persevere when there are some leeways available, but obviously I'm missing these kinds of resolutions :D

Sephiroth · Nov 15, 2017

So is there something going on next week for Black Friday?

Brian McDoogle · Nov 15, 2017

Sephiroth said:
So is there something going on next week for Black Friday?

Last year they did something with past releases they had stock of, so many they'll do it again?

Desty86 · Nov 15, 2017

Are there any new updates of Skullgirls? Didn't hear anything.
Wasn't stated that PS4 should be in hand soon and Vita sometime next month or early November? It was months ago. Did i miss anything?

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