Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus |OT| Amerika ist wieder großartig

I loved that you got a trophy for
That entire segment was one of the highlights of the game. Everything post Roswell has been pretty great story-wise, think I'm closing in on the end, I'm on . They really nail this feeling of brotherhood in the writing. Having the hub back like in the first game, helps you get that feeling of being in a community.

I want to see what you get for doing all the ubercommando missions, so I'm not done for a while.

Finished the main quest on Terrorbilly now in about 15 hours. Had a blast once i accepted the brutal hitmarkerless combat :P now onto sidequests and DLC...

You guys were right, the hit detection is wonky. It's hard to tell if bullets have actually hit unless you see them drop or see the blood. I'm enjoying it, though.

I'm only on the second or third mission, where you're looking for on the sub.

Has anyone else found the cutscene dialogue and volume to be quite a bit lower than gameplay's?

TheBeardedOne said:

You guys were right, the hit detection is wonky. It's hard to tell if bullets have actually hit unless you see them drop or see the blood. I'm enjoying it, though.

I'm only on the second or third mission, where you're looking for

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stowaways broadcasting your location

on the sub.

Has anyone else found the cutscene dialogue and volume to be quite a bit lower than gameplay's?

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The game feels like it would play a million times better on mouse and keyboard.

RedSwirl said:

Dual wielding two separate guns has been very advantageous for me. I think the game might actually be balanced with it in mind.

Mostly I have the Sturmgewehr and Shockhammer for a combination of long and short range. Replace one with an explosive for big enemies, or the silenced Pistole for stealth.

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Dual-wielding is basically this franchise's trademark feature at this point that differentiates it from other single player shooters.

Funny how during TNO's development it was going to be a temporal power-up and it was changed because the developers thought it'd be funner if it just were permanent.

Creamium said:

I loved that you got a trophy for

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kicking Hitler's face when he was down. The second I took control that's what I wanted to do.

That entire segment was one of the highlights of the game. Everything post Roswell has been pretty great story-wise, think I'm closing in on the end, I'm on

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Engel's ship.

. They really nail this feeling of brotherhood in the writing. Having the hub back like in the first game, helps you get that feeling of being in a community.

I want to see what you get for doing all the ubercommando missions, so I'm not done for a while.

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Yeah I love that scene (the one where you get that trophy), and think it may be one of my favorite moments from a game in recent memory.

Never loved/hated a game so much. Glad I played through it though, and it was really good overall.

Just finished the game and the abrupt ending was very disappointing.

Rei dos Vermes said:

Just finished the game and the abrupt ending was very disappointing.

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I thought the developers were messing with me when the credits rolled, just like they did before in the court scene. But no... Why did the game have to end this way? It seriously needed two more levels with proper boss battles. For christ's sake, we fought a giant robot and Mecha Deathshead in The New Order! Damn, MachineGames! I love you and I hate you!

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Credits rolling here (this cover...) and yeah it was really surprising. Had no idea that was the final boss; wasn't nearly as much as an "event" as that first game.

Had a blast with it all things considered though. Wasn't as hard as TNO but also wasn't nearly as frustrating.

I'm surprised so many people thought the ending was abrupt. It seemed pretty obvious that it was coming. I just thought the segment at would be a bit longer.

Rei dos Vermes said:

Just finished the game and the abrupt ending was very disappointing.

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I thought the developers were messing with me when the credits rolled, just like they did before in the court scene. But no... Why did the game have to end this way? It seriously needed two more levels with proper boss battles. For christ's sake, we fought a giant robot and Mecha Deathshead in The New Order! Damn, MachineGames! I love you and I hate you!

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So, interesting theory about the 2nd half of the game from leddit


I'm inclined to believe it,

Wonder what that would mean for a third game?

SlickVic said:

Yeah I love that scene (the one where you get that trophy), and think it may be one of my favorite moments from a game in recent memory.

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In a lot of depictions of Hitler I've seen in media, he's often this mighty supervillain. And sure, that reputation is perhaps earned, but I love how they depicted him in this game. A broken down old man engulfed in paranoia and his own delusions. He embodies the definition of 'pathetic'. There was an article on Forbes that summed it up nicely as well.

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Yeah, I agree with that being the best moment in the game actually.

Beat the game yesterday and that final song maybe was meant as an intentionally cheesy 'so bad it's good' choice, but it's just... bad. Even worse is that it just kept going for the entire credits sequence. I did love the second half of the game though and didn't feel like the ending was sudden, I don't know how you could get that impression. I also appreciate the way they handled the ending actually.


Curious about the dlc and final game. I hope MachineGames can make a move in a more narrative-focused direction after Wolf, because that's where their biggest strengths are. I guess that's a tough ask in today's climate, but a man can hope. It's very impressive what they have achieved for this franchise in terms of characters.

Finally......


So some stuff happened in the game that I was surprised by, story wise the game is knocking it out the park and safe to say I'm at the mid point. Let's say fast travel is enabled and you know all the wild stuff that lead up to that, but I'm getting a head..

Amazing game, can't wait to get home and put more hours in.

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And now I know I'm not crazy, this had me thinking that I suddenly got bad at FPS games, but no, it really does have an extremely unbalanced difficulty that makes the game not fun. I thought the extremely low health I had at the beginning of the game was just because I was hurt and in a wheelchair, then the rest of the game was like that.

Digital said:

So, interesting theory about the 2nd half of the game from leddit

Spoiler: Seriously, big spoilers.

I think BJ died after getting his head chopped off.

Not because it's unrealistic that he survived the beheading (in this universe, it's easily believable), but mostly because of the shit that happens afterward. The ease in just going to and coming back from Venus. The cuddle with Anya where she doesn't answer BJ's "am I dead?" and "how did you guys survive?" questions. The ease in taking down Engel's ship (and the ease of literally just teleporting to her, and her having basically zero security despite having tons of security with her at all times earlier in the game). What about meeting Hitler? Or successfully impersonating a movie star? Wolfenstein has always been off the rails and ridiculous, but things stop adding up after the beheading thing. And the tone of that ending with that stupid credits song -- come on, son.

I think BJ died with the beheading. I think the resistance was killed in the garage during Spesh's attempted break-in. Everything happening afterward is just BJ's own personal heaven in his head.

I'm inclined to believe it,

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since MG did a perfect job of nailing tone in these games up until TNC's second half. Jeez that cover.

Wonder what that would mean for a third game?

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A Roseanne style ending?

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I'm really glad I'm not the only one!

I'm probably going to start this tomorrow night.

What's the recommended difficulty level on consoles? I'm a little worried after hearing the Giant Bomb guys say it was really frustrating on even the 2nd and 3rd difficulties.

I played The New Order on the 3rd difficulty I believe, and found it to be reasonable outside of a couple of spots. My general approach was to be stealthy as much as I could, but then run & gun once caught.

One minute into Super Bunnyhop's review and he says MG's reboot doesn't even include a Castle Wolfenstein. Someone hasn't played The Old Blood?

The second half of the game is weird and it obviously tries to
I wouldn't think about it too hard. This game is like Deus Ex Mankind Divided in that its a victim of the developers really banking on making another right after.

Big G said:

I'm probably going to start this tomorrow night.

What's the recommended difficulty level on consoles? I'm a little worried after hearing the Giant Bomb guys say it was really frustrating on even the 2nd and 3rd difficulties.

I played The New Order on the 3rd difficulty I believe, and found it to be reasonable outside of a couple of spots. My general approach was to be stealthy as much as I could, but then run & gun once caught.

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I picked 'bring em on' and outside of one early encounter I didn't have much trouble, but I had to adjust to the game's poor hit feedback. Maybe you've seen it mentioned in the thread, but the feedback on getting hit is very poor. So early on you'll have to get used to checking your life/armor meter and manual save frequently. Even though Bring em on wasn't too bad, it definitely felt harder than a normal mode because you can't take a lot of punishment and sometimes you're too late to notice. Always make sure to collect dropped armor from ubersoldats.

I was able to play TNO on pc, but my card can't han't handle TNC anymore, and I definitely miss kb/m for this game. Just watched that Superbunnyhop vid and I understand his complaint on the console controls.

Just finished watching the review and agree with pretty much all of his points, including the one where he says he still ended up enjoying both games inmensely.

Some people have taken the video to mean the game sucks though, as expected.

Oh god that (quite endgame) scene

Managed to make it through the story on Bring Em On without upgrading any weapons. My only real complaint was they don't explain what the contraptions do when you choose, and my stealth playthrough would have been much easier if I didn't have to bust through walls to progress in certain areas.

Soooo do all of the side missions lack checkpoints?

Zukkoyaki said:

Soooo do all of the side missions lack checkpoints?

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I don't know, but you can use manual saves. Since you can die so easily and quickly I saved way more than I usually do.

Creamium said:

I don't know, but you can use manual saves.

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Really?! Good to know, thanks!

Zukkoyaki said:

Soooo do all of the side missions lack checkpoints?

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lol I just did one and got to the very end and got one shotted by a big robot. I couldn't believe it took me back to the beginning.

I also felt the ending was kind of sudden. Like I played the final mission last night then went to bed because it was late as fuck and I thought I had another to go. Then came back today and booted up and turns out I just had the ending scene and credits. So at least partially bad timing on my end. I would have kept playing if it wasn't 2AM. Still, I DID think there was more to go.

Game was rad, but boy some of the segments were amazing in concept but left me frustrated.
That said, that scene was incredible. I loved it.

I was playing on whatever the 3rd difficulty option was and after I dropped it one lower I didn't regret it.
I'm sure people have mentioned in this OT, the feedback when you get shot and from where is not strong enough. Your health will just suddenly be gone.

Even on the 2nd easiest difficulty the final boss bots gave me trouble.

Creamium said:

I don't know, but you can use manual saves. Since you can die so easily and quickly I saved way more than I usually do.

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Oh dang I completely forgot I could manual save. That'll do.

Digital said:

So, interesting theory about the 2nd half of the game from leddit

Spoiler: Seriously, big spoilers.

I think BJ died after getting his head chopped off.

Not because it's unrealistic that he survived the beheading (in this universe, it's easily believable), but mostly because of the shit that happens afterward. The ease in just going to and coming back from Venus. The cuddle with Anya where she doesn't answer BJ's "am I dead?" and "how did you guys survive?" questions. The ease in taking down Engel's ship (and the ease of literally just teleporting to her, and her having basically zero security despite having tons of security with her at all times earlier in the game). What about meeting Hitler? Or successfully impersonating a movie star? Wolfenstein has always been off the rails and ridiculous, but things stop adding up after the beheading thing. And the tone of that ending with that stupid credits song -- come on, son.

I think BJ died with the beheading. I think the resistance was killed in the garage during Spesh's attempted break-in. Everything happening afterward is just BJ's own personal heaven in his head.

I'm inclined to believe it,

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since MG did a perfect job of nailing tone in these games up until TNC's second half. Jeez that cover.

Wonder what that would mean for a third game?

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A Roseanne style ending?

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I don't think so.

RedSwirl said:

I don't think so.

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We already got the daydream fakeout with the court scene. Wolfenstein II certainly escalates in its craziness, but I don't think it would do a dream within a dream.

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It wouldn't be one. You mixed up the sequence of events

Have to give it up for Frau Engel's voice actress. I mean how amazing was she in all her monologues? This is some of my favorite VO work of recent years. She also singlehandedly makes German sound awesome.

My review over at Progress Bar.

Let me know your thoughts!

so is the supposed to be 400% harder than everything else in the game? I turned the difficulty down one, and when I still couldn't do it, I turned it down to the lowest level. Should I turn it back up, or is the game just suddenly unforgivably brutal and without checkpoints now? I will play on the lowest difficulty, I'm just curious if I have to spend 5-10 min without checkpoints dumping clip after clip into dozens of bullet sponges for the rest of the game

Conciliator said:

so is the

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courtroom mission

supposed to be 400% harder than everything else in the game? I turned the difficulty down one, and when I still couldn't do it, I turned it down to the lowest level. Should I turn it back up, or is the game just suddenly unforgivably brutal and without checkpoints now? I will play on the lowest difficulty, I'm just curious if I have to spend 5-10 min without checkpoints dumping clip after clip into dozens of bullet sponges for the rest of the game

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It's definitely the hardest thing in the game, yes. Well, it was for me anyway.

I am at 50% of the game i think, and like TNO i'm loving it.

But i have a feeling that the weapons are not balanced like in TNO, i use 2 weapons at most all the time unlike the previous game where i used all of them at the right moment.

Btw, the guns doesn't have secondary function like TNO, am i right?

Eridani said:

It's definitely the hardest thing in the game, yes. Well, it was for me anyway.

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I'm glad I dropped down to normal then. I was playing on hard, but the hit detection and damage quantity was annoying me. I hope to enjoy it more on normal.

I beat TNO on hard, after dropping down from uber, but it didn't feel like much had changed and I still got credit for beating it on uber, in-game.

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so is the

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courtroom mission

supposed to be 400% harder than everything else in the game? I turned the difficulty down one, and when I still couldn't do it, I turned it down to the lowest level. Should I turn it back up, or is the game just suddenly unforgivably brutal and without checkpoints now? I will play on the lowest difficulty, I'm just curious if I have to spend 5-10 min without checkpoints dumping clip after clip into dozens of bullet sponges for the rest of the game

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It's hard only if you don't know where enemies are coming and where to run from the start. There are already a lot youtube videos showing best ways to do this part. Also enemies are not bullet sponges, shoot in the head and they will be dead from 1-2 bullets for regular enemies and about 5-6 assault rifle bullets in sniper mode for those heavy enemies.

Chris Walken said:

Btw, the guns doesn't have secondary function like TNO, am i right?

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They do, but you have to unlock them through weapon upgrade kits. Same concept as in the first game, but with more freedom of choice as to which weapons get upgraded when.

Uno Venova said:

And now I know I'm not crazy, this had me thinking that I suddenly got bad at FPS games, but no, it really does have an extremely unbalanced difficulty that makes the game not fun. I thought the extremely low health I had at the beginning of the game was just because I was hurt and in a wheelchair, then the rest of the game was like that.

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The balance feels like they expect you to die once or twice in the big set pieces.

Jyrii said:

Oh god that (quite endgame)

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drunken birthday

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Best part of the game. I laughed out loud so many times.

Brockxz said:

It's hard only if you don't know where enemies are coming and where to run from the start. There are already a lot youtube videos showing best ways to do this part. Also enemies are not bullet sponges, shoot in the head and they will be dead from 1-2 bullets for regular enemies and about 5-6 assault rifle bullets in sniper mode for those heavy enemies.

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I just turned down the difficulty down and then turned it back up afterwards; much easier than memorizing some arbitrary youtube route.

Conciliator said:

so is the

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courtroom mission

supposed to be 400% harder than everything else in the game? I turned the difficulty down one, and when I still couldn't do it, I turned it down to the lowest level. Should I turn it back up, or is the game just suddenly unforgivably brutal and without checkpoints now? I will play on the lowest difficulty, I'm just curious if I have to spend 5-10 min without checkpoints dumping clip after clip into dozens of bullet sponges for the rest of the game

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Well you can create your own checkpoints by saving manually. I played on Bring 'em on and one thing that helped me in this fight is realizing that at some point during the battle (or even from the start?) the doors open up and you can sprint to armories (on either side) that have armor and ammo. That was a good spot to save, take a breather and let enemies funnel in through the door. Just keep moving and don't save when you have 0 armor.

Creamium said:

Well you can create your own checkpoints by saving manually. I played on Bring 'em on and one thing that helped me in this fight is realizing that at some point during the battle (or even from the start?) the doors open up and you can sprint to armories (on either side) that have armor and ammo. That was a good spot to save, take a breather and let enemies funnel in through the door. Just keep moving and don't save when you have 0 armor.

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Damn, really? Didn't know that. I will try to keep that in mind for the rest of the game.

I did figure out after the fact that I could have run through the doors at some point.

Conciliator said:

Damn, really? Didn't know that. I will try to keep that in mind for the rest of the game.

I did figure out after the fact that I could have run through the doors at some point.

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I'm so glad this game has manual saves. I died suddenly or by surprise one too many times. If this game had a checkpoint system, I definitely would've turned down the difficulty a notch.

The is pretty hard, yeah. Thankfully you can use the heavy weapons to kill the big enemies and then rush through the door upstairs and camp in a corner near the supplies and pick enemies off one by one.

Question, not looking for more spoilers. AV Club tweeted out an article about Wolfenstein that had a pic of .

Is that a huge spoiler and one of the "moments" everyone is talking about? I was pretty annoyed when I saw it.

peppermints said:

Question, not looking for more spoilers. AV Club tweeted out an article about Wolfenstein that had a pic of

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old man Hitler from the game

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Is that a huge spoiler and one of the "moments" everyone is talking about? I was pretty annoyed when I saw it.

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Kinda? He appeared at the end of the launch trailer so not really. That scene is amazing and worth watching even if you know he's in the game tho.

Do the upgrades for the grenades stack or can you only have one upgrade equipped at at a time?

I really want grenades that explode into fire AND lightning, but that seems too good to be true

I don't know why I was expecting something more (like a cutscene) after clearing the ubercommandos, I guess the extra district was the actual reward. Cool level though. I ended up doing all sidequests too because I had to grind a few codes to play that district. That's it for me though, platinum is way out of most people's reach. Congrats to the 2 people who have it though.

peppermints said:

Question, not looking for more spoilers. AV Club tweeted out an article about Wolfenstein that had a pic of

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old man Hitler from the game

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Is that a huge spoiler and one of the "moments" everyone is talking about? I was pretty annoyed when I saw it.

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Meh, if you don't spoil yourself on anything else it's not too bad.

Late game spoilers:

Skyball Paint said:

Do the upgrades for the grenades stack or can you only have one upgrade equipped at at a time?

I really want grenades that explode into fire AND lightning, but that seems too good to be true

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They do stack. I had all three upgrades and you can tell when you toss 'em that each upgrade is active.

You can also deactivate any of them through the weapons upgrade menu if you for some reason would want to do that. I just kept all 3 on. Was good for mechanical enemies, would stun them while also doing damage.