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Which team will Lebron play for next season?
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I'm with the others in that if the Cavs lose Lebron they would prefer to get under the tax as quickly as possible and build that way (so no Hayward). The most reasonable thing is to find a third team in the lottery who would probably want Kyrie or Hayward instead of their draft pick (like the Knicks..), swing that pick to the Cavs and have that third team throw the Cavs some expirings. The Celtics could also throw in a couple late first rounders to make it easier for the Cavs to trade those expirings away to get under the tax. Then the Cavs could trade Love for a mid first rounder into space to drop that salary (like Phoenix's 16th pick). I think the Cavs would prefer to bottom out and start their rebuild with the 8, 9, and 16 picks in this draft if Lebron leaves instead of dealing with Hayward/Love, which is fine, but probably not doing much other than making the 2nd round.
Honestly in this scenario Kyrie would hold more value around the league to make this work..only issue is this would have to be figured out prior to the draft so it's difficult to work out.
Anyway this is all probably moot. Lebron sounded pretty sincere (post game press conference) to me about this move being more based on his family than any other prior move he's made in the past. If family is going to play a large role in his decision over purely winning, it's LA or Cleveland most likely.
Kyrie is like 20 million a year. LeBron is going to be somewhere in excess of like 35 million.
Kyrie is boston's cheapest star they have, but he also only has 1 year left on his contract also and some think he is gonna bolt after this next season.
You need to trade Kyrie (and a couple other backups) for LeBron to be able to sign LeBron at over the salary cap limit (which you can only do to players you have rights on).
(As far as Hayward, Horford, Kyrie)
I still don't see how Ben Simmons and LeBron play together. Since Simmons can't shoot at all, it's not like you can have LeBron be the point guard while Simmons stands around the perimeter waiting for LeBron to kick it out for a jump shot.
Many questioned how two ball dominant players in Harden and CP3 could play together before the season but both of them are excellent shooters and don't need the ball in their hands all the time to be effective.
Someone explain, please?
Many questioned how two ball dominant players in Harden and CP3 could play together before the season but both of them are excellent shooters and don't need the ball in their hands all the time to be effective.
Someone explain, please?
I have no idea either tbh. All I can think of is Simmons being the main ball handler, and Lebron playing off ball more often. Lebron can shoot fine tbh so maybe it could work in that sense? Do you really want to take the ball out of Lebron's hands like that, though? Eh
Here's a solid article on what it would take for the Celtics to get LeBron assuming he wouldn't do an opt-in and trade.
https://www.weei.com/articles/colum...quire-lebron-james-heres-how-they-could-do-it
https://www.weei.com/articles/colum...quire-lebron-james-heres-how-they-could-do-it
We have already ordered 2,000 copies of Mario Puzo's The Godfather to fill the locker room with.
I can't see any other alternative at this point. I'll miss Hayward.
LeBusele.
Pop, LeBron, Kawhi, and Aldridge would end GSW. Then Steve Kerr will send Goon Pachulia to injure somebody when they're down 25.
Isn't one of the persistent rumors that Lebron wants to play off the ball more?
Oh, is it? That would be weird to see since LeBron bringing the ball up and getting downhill is what makes him so unstoppable.
Personally, I think he stays with the Cavs. The other situations either don't work short-term to be competitive or they require a ton of machinations to happen, though they're all possible at least.
Interesting tidbit from Dunc'd On Podcast about the Lakers. It's possible the Finals being a sweep hurt their potential to sign LeBron as well as another max guy. This is because it likely lowered BRI for the year which will in turn lower cap figures. The difference might be relatively small, but it can be enough to hurt - the Celtics had to trade Bradley last year to sign Hayward because of a similar thing.
The Lakers make very little sense from a basketball perspective.
I really have no idea though. Nothing surprises me with this star movement now.
Also, I would not want to be a free agent this summer. Very few teams have cap space, and no teams other than 3-4 have illusions of even competing with the current Warriors in the league. Mid-tier FAs are going to get seriously squeezed while LeBron waits to decide the direction of the league.
Interesting tidbit from Dunc'd On Podcast about the Lakers. It's possible the Finals being a sweep hurt their potential to sign LeBron as well as another max guy. This is because it likely lowered BRI for the year which will in turn lower cap figures. The difference might be relatively small, but it can be enough to hurt - the Celtics had to trade Bradley last year to sign Hayward because of a similar thing.
The Lakers make very little sense from a basketball perspective.
I really have no idea though. Nothing surprises me with this star movement now.
Also, I would not want to be a free agent this summer. Very few teams have cap space, and no teams other than 3-4 have illusions of even competing with the current Warriors in the league. Mid-tier FAs are going to get seriously squeezed while LeBron waits to decide the direction of the league.
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A lot of what I read has the Celtics having to move Hayward to clear space for LeBron, but couldn't the same be accomplished with Horford? I know Kyrie is like $10M less than those two, so it would be tough to move him to clear space.
LeBrong + Hortford makes a lot more sense than LeBrong + Hayward. Hayward's contract is also $2M more than Hortford.
Kyrie+Morris+Nader+Yabu is enough salary for a LeBron S+T. You can't trade Hayward, not just for the optics but because he's Brad's guy and Brad is the franchise. And Bron would be a brilliant PG in a James-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford lineup.
Ainge and Stevens finally get their dream of 4 wings and Hortford.
I think either Houston or San Antonio at this point. Would love to see him with pop. Still think the spurs would need another scorer off the bench.
Talk about calling someone slow are are you slow or just like talking out of your behind? Its a near 30 million long term contract for a team that has way to much money invested in bad contracts already and who are in cap hell. They have nearly 50 million invested In JR, Tristan, and George Hill. They literally have no cap space at all until 2020 or 2021 even if Lebron leaves and comes off the books. For a team like the Cavs who would want to rebuild if Lebron left they are not gonna want to add long term cap money in a trade. They would be looking to shed some of their bad contracts and they would want draft picks and young assets like Tatum or Jaylen Brown not a 28 year old coming off of ankle and leg fractures on a 29 million a year contract.
A lot of us are saying Lebron for Hayward because if Hortford leaves we don't really have a backup center
Having a good all round center who can shoot well is better than 4 wings
Having a good all round center who can shoot well is better than 4 wings
as long as Horford doesn't have to be "the guy", he's a big asset. Unfortunately for the Celtics this year, he had to be the lone veteran presence, and he shrunk in the biggest moments, as he has done his entire career.
But I agree, as long as he can be like the 3rd option, he's a fantastic addition to most teams.
Not really. He does everything on offense. He's not a flashy superstar but he's everywhere for us. And he's the cornerstone of our defense.
Da hell?
Rockets would've more than likely won if Chris Paul didn't get injured and miss the final 2 games... add Lebron to dat and it's a wrap.
Chris Paul's hamstring is the Warriors playoffs MVP.
No one knows... will be another omg Moment like when Durant signed with Golden state. There is shit happening behind closed doors to make this happen, and people will be shocked in July. Just enjoy that undefeated/players tribune article and 80 page thread that pops up right after.
please. he gave ya'll like 4ppg in Q4's in the Cavs series. He shrinks when it really matters and always has (when games are on the line in Q4). Whether you see it or not, I can't help you with that.
he could only carpet-bag like that in the East. Which would be pretty entertaining, but I think he goal at this point should be to go somewhere he has to play no more than 33-35 minutes a game. Him playing 40 minutes a game is criminal and going to mediocre teams would ensure a future of exactly that again.
Too bad my Cav can't make any real moves to keep him. But hey...maybe he signs a 1-2 year deal somewhere else then comes back once the Cav have gotten rid of the trash contracts and have space for a few all-stars again.
This makes me wonder how many playoff games you watched of the Celts this year. Horford was generally fantastic and was probably one of the best 5 players in the playoffs.
Did the winner in game 3 of the Sixers not matter? Game 1 Sixers, where he utterly dominated? Game 1 and 2 of Cavs?
Horford is basically the fulcrum, both offensively and defensively, and the reason they were able to blow up defenses and offenses. If you can't see that, I can't help you with that.
Check his Q4 stats (FGA, FGM, %, AST, REB) against the Cavs.
Check them for the 2018 Cavs series.
Check them again for the 2017 Cavs series.
In fact, check them when he was the best player on the Atlanta Hawks.
You'll see the same pattern. When it's crunch time and you need a veteran leading the way, demanding the ball and making shots or getting to the line (or otherwise remaining very aggressive), Al Horford will rarely be there for you. It's not in his DNA.
Game 7 against the Cavs? Al Horford took 2 shots in Q4 and had 1 assist, and maybe 1 rebound IIRC. Assertive Al becomes pacifistic Al in the playoffs. You don't deserve lavish praise when you put up 2 points in Q4 of a Game 7 as the veteran and arguably best player on your team. But that's what Al does. It's what he's always done.
You can stan for him if you want to. I've watched him his whole career and it's the same shit wherever he goes. Again, he's a fantastic 3rd option. A team with Al Horford as the default #1 or #2 option is a team that never makes it to the Finals. Next year he'll be the 3rd option and that will be best for everyone involved.
I kinda think the Celtics are a realistic option given the makeup of the team and the trade bait the team has. But as a Celtics fan, I don't want LeBron. I respect Lebron, I think he's greater than Jordan, but I don't like him and have a hard time rooting for him.
If I were a betting man, I'd suspect he'd go out west to Houston.
If I were a betting man, I'd suspect he'd go out west to Houston.
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I think you might be a severely brain damaged idiot. I really do. The. Cavs. Have. No. Leverage. Lebron is a free agent. Boston will not trade Brown or Tatum and they don't need to. They trade Hayward. If the Cavs want, they get a third team involved and flip Hayward for draft picks and expirings. It's not that difficult if they are looking to bottom out. They can do the same with Kevin Love. Then they build around this year's pick and whatever picks they acquire from trades while waiting for contracts to expire within the next two years. You seem to be the only one who doesn't understand this.
I'm not sure if want to see LeBron James on my team either.
To be clear, I wanted to see Carmelo the other year.
No I do not have brain damage nor am I an idiot. Even though they have no levage you seem to think they have to work with the Celtics they do not. They have no reason to facilitate Lebron going to the Celtics nor would they most likely want to especially if they would have to take Gordon Heywards contract nor would anyone else want to take on heywards contract. Its a bad contract. Its ok though your in your own feelings about this I hope you get the help you need because you seriously have some anger issues that need to be worked out.
This guy is correct
Don't fall for the experts reports
They have not been very accurate so far
They totally missed the hand injury
Players Tribune guranteed will be the announcement
I personally think it's likely he could look anywhere in the East
I mean I get a Atlanta Hawks media creditial so I can dream
3 first Rd picks
Plenty of cap space
Great basketball city 4th most watching playoffs
The mecca of urban flim industry 4th in the world
3rd in Technology
Great living environment
A chance to get a hunger strike city a title run
Ok I'll stop
This is why I think Philly is the move. They have a ton of talent, pieces to move to get better (Fultz and pick 10) and Lebron would go there and be the man. Yeah Boston and the warriors are better now but by the time they add Lebron and another piece they could be legit contenders.
Also Lebron has been sporting a Philly Beard all year so why not go to Philly and be stylish as hell!
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