I get it. It's dated as fuck but the socio-historical idea behind it likely that fair skinned people are indoors (bein' regal or whatever means you're definitely not working hard outside) and labourers are tanned because they're out in the sun. I don't think she was ever meant to be a dark-skinned character, as most Zelda's aren't.
Bless this. As a brown guy with a younger sister who really likes Zelda and princesses, it was extremely awkward and disappointing when she was watching me play WW and I got to the part where Tetra transforms... So damn stupid.I never really liked how in Wind Waker Tetra transforms from this...
To this...
The transformation changed her skin color but not her weird lime green hair??
Some modders seem to have fixed it a bit, at least.
This tops Camilla and ZSS as the worst redesign on this list. Not mocking your shop skills, it's just conceptually bad.
This tops Camilla and ZSS as the worst redesign on this list. Not mocking your shop skills, it's just conceptually bad.
SCV did it well.
Except she doesn't really decide when to get naked, does she? The player does. The, on average, teenage or in early twenties male, to be more precise. You can deees it up as much as you want, but female empowerment isn't the reason she's designed this way.
Real women have the autonomy to pick their shoes and typically are not wearing them in a combat scenario. Even then women have critiqued high heels, especially the damage they can do to the wearer's feet, for decades.
But she's totally looking into the camera at certain scenes, which means we are just prudes if we do not see her as a feminist icon. /s
Honestly this. Lots of people like to push many male characters as being toxically masculine, but when the personality is being used to argue against open and owning sexuality, it's suddenly the player's will and not that of the character.By that logic, when Kratos throws that slave girl into a bunch of gears to open a door, it's really a reflection of the player, and has no bearing on Kratos as a character. In fact nothing Kratos does outside on a non-intractable cutscene has any bearing on him as a character, because it was done under the control of a player /s.
Yes
A lot of women would and do disagree she's a borderline case. Are they wrong?Why is a male member telling me who is and isn't a ""feminist superhero""???
Bayonetta has ALWAYS been a borderline case at best.
Oh wow I thought I was the only one for that reason lolCovered up Kratos felt so wrong to me I even refused to use any of the full body armor in the game
I don't see enough belts.Why thank you. In some regards I feel I didn't go far enough with it tbh.
Lose the high heels, get something more sporty. More unkempt bangs, rather than that ridiculous plastic Barbie coif. Confident eyes, rather than a vacant sex-doll stare.
For good measure, probably also lose the beauty mark/move it to someplace less cliche/give her something cooler and more reflective of her job like a little scar or two.
I wish that "was" would be "is".
Kratos embodies the average teenage male phantasy of being an unstoppable ultra muscular hypermasculine hero. And Bayonetta embodies the average teenage male phantasy of an hypersexualized heel wearing and nude fighting female 'heroine'. I wouldn't point her as an exemple of female empowerment, but that's like just my opinion manHonestly this. Lots of people like to push many male characters as being toxically masculine, but when the personality is being used to argue against open and owning sexuality, it's suddenly the player's will and not that of the character.
If Bayonetta's owning her sexuality doesn't exist because the player is in control of her, then one can argue that Kratos and Doomguy aren't actually violent because it's the player projecting their will onto the persona and not actually the character's personality.
Bless this. As a brown guy with a younger sister who really likes Zelda and princesses, it was extremely awkward and disappointing when she was watching me play WW and I got to the part where Tetra transforms... So damn stupid.
Unlike other FF characters (like Cloud), I've always loved Squall's look in KH, especially the first one. Even the mullet and the lack of fur collar!I did this quickly so some parts are a little sloppy but god did I hate all of the belts and mullet. I also would add the fur collar in as it would look better.
Them being short is fine. It'd be better if they went up higher but at least they stop short of giving her ass cleavage like previous games had.
You don't need to try anything.
Just remove the fuckin' belts. Like how the hell do you even wear this
As silly as the mitts look, I do like to think they serve a purpose once she starts wielding the hot sword.I always wanted to see Yunica with fingered gloves rather than those oven mitt style ones she is wearing.
I don't like this. The blue was perfectly fine, its a nice change for once.
Much better, except I feel there could be more armor and not fabric. Like something that will actually be some sort of protection.
This is a LOT better than the actual design. Almost full armor which is good, some actual protection. Just make the armor less feminine cause why do we need that, its to protect not to look fashionable, and put some more on her side there, I see the skin showing. This is a great start though to fixing an A W F U L design.I will never be able to unsee this now, and it will always bother me. By god, you're absolutely right -- your revision is so much better.
Yep, these two were exactly what I came here for. Pyra needs a breast reduction, too -- it's not as apparent in the character art, but her tits are absurdly, cartoonishly, distractingly enormous in the game.
I also like artist Lou Cord's slightly less subtle revision. She feels more like a mysterious ancient weapon here than the anime sex pillow that's in the game.
What a way to disrespect women. "Could be bigger". Should say reduce it and cover her up. How would you feel to be walking around in this attire. Not too happy I'm sure.
Consider that Kratos's meatheaded bloodlust and transactional relations with female sex props are played straight. No wink, no thematic contradiction to his murderous hypermasculine stance in his world, no hint of self-awareness. He's the straight male id unleashed and exaggerated tenfold. (Newer GoW game(s) aside.)Kratos embodies the average teenage male phantasy of being an unstoppable ultra muscular hypermasculine hero. And Bayonetta embodies the average teenage male phantasy of an hypersexualized heel wearing and nude fighting female 'heroine'. I wouldn't point her as an exemple of female empowerment, but that's like just my opinion man
I just did one for the hell of it. Not..ideal (I don't really wanna spend more time on a fake design lol), but I really liked what the darker Pyra outfit went for and did something similar (and added some fancy ass asymmetrical dress and superfluous JRPG belting for 'substance')
Bless this. As a brown guy with a younger sister who really likes Zelda and princesses, it was extremely awkward and disappointing when she was watching me play WW and I got to the part where Tetra transforms... So damn stupid.
Lmao. I'm going to Google image that height n weight.
Isn't the thing with tetra that she's just super tanned from being in the sun as a pirate all the time? That's how I figured the transformation happened, she lost her tan.
Maybe something like this?
Edit: comparison shot - basically added more muscles, arms, shoulders, thighs, hips, butt.
For reference:
A lot of women would and do disagree she's a borderline case. Are they wrong?
Also, are we really floating the premise that a gay man can't identify feminist iconography? Are we suggesting that men in general can't be feminists or distinguish between empowerment and exploitation? Are we insinuating that a difference of opinion implies a patriarchal agenda?
If you're really attempting to characterize my side of this conversation as mansplaining, check yourself. Nothing I've said hasn't been repeated by scores of reviewers and female commentators.
Actually just make the vest much bigger and it would work. Like make it fit him.
Actually just make the vest much bigger and it would work. Like make it fit him.