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CNN: Trump to leave G7 early after Twitter spat with Macron and Trudeau
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Yes, that's what I've been saying. It's tortured because some people seem to be insisting that they personally didn't vote for Trump, and they're an American, so Trump doesn't reflect poorly on America.
I'm trying to specify that Trump reflects poorly on the whole because that's what the whole decided, and is continuing to allow, even if there are some dissenting parts.
If you're an American, it does reflect badly on you that Trump is president.
It's just a dumb metaphor. Millions dragged their ass to vote no for Trump in 2016, but he's still president, and now he's merrily hitting himself in the dick with a hammer while some of the people look on, aghast, while another segment look on and cheer. We'll see what happens this year, and in 2020.
There's a hierarchy. Town, then Province, then Country. You can't really control laterally, but you can control further up the hierarchy. Yes, I think it's horrible that Ontario voted for Doug Ford. I find it offensive, and as a Canadian I think it reflects poorly on me that my countrymen are unable to recognize him for the blustering idiot he is.
If Canada elected him as Prime Minister? Hell yes, I'd recognize that reflected poorly on me as a Canadian. I expect better from Canada. I'm not sure why you guys have stopped expecting better from America.
Fine, you do you.
Edit: I'll add to this, as I don't think that you take any personal responsibility or let it weigh on you if you did your part or had no control over it.
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India won't join, because they think half the G7 members are Sikh sympathizers and India still views Sikhs by and large as dangerous at best and a terrorist cult at worst.
Can't speak to Brazil, but I think their (from my understanding) highly protectionist economy singles them out a bit.
Primarily, we have a non-elected Governor General, who is our actual head of state, who can deem a Prime Minister unfit to serve and dissolve Parliament.
Yeah, you read right: we can have a leader thrown out if his fitness for the job creates a constitutional crisis (and the Governor General would have been notified to do so MONTHS ago if we elected Trump), without the consent of elected officials, or if a majority of Parliament votes no confidence. This would likely result in the same party governing, but with a better and more sound leader at the helm, decided by Parliament or by election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_parliament#Canada
.... pretty good protections, right?
Considering who's in charge, wouldn't it be easy to trick Trump into convening an Amendment Convention? He seems pretty easy to bamboozle. American fear of the Constitutional Convention is really quite surreal to me.
Actually, most Canadians do experience shame over Rob and Doug Ford. Even if they live nowhere near the city or province that they govern in. Rob Ford was a national embarrassment and everyone in Canada knew it and felt it. Some of us took solace in the fact that there was no means for us to change that outcome due to not living anywhere near where we were eligible to vote in those elections. But the people of Toronto, and now Ontario? Yeah, there's a lot of "why didn't I do more / try harder" self-flagellation to be found there. They'll own this and do their best to eject him. Thankfully, we have political tools that make that possible, as mentioned earlier, and Ontarians will push hard to leverage them when the opportunity presents itself (which it almost certainly will).
But nice try at reframing things to suggest Canadians believe our shit don't stink, like the worst kind of whataboutism.
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as a Canadian outside of Ontario, I face palm at the Scheer Stupidity of Ontario for voting Rob Ford in Toronto then, Doug Ford in Ontario as Premier now and for deciding the outcome Federally in 2011 by giving Stephen Harper enough seats to form Majority.
But watch NDP nutters coming out blaming Liberals instead of actually blaming dumb voters for Conservative wins.
Billifisto owned up to their personal feelings of responsibility, even though I don't think anyone should let it weigh on them. If you did your part and are planning to do your part in the next election, you're good. I was a bit annoyed that a non American was telling me/us how to clean our own backyard yes.
I would love to see thousands of UK protesters chanting "Go home orange cunt!" to him.
American here. Trump is a reflection of the American culture. I don't take it personal.. that our country, which I am a part of... is condemned. I know I wasn't part of it, but that's what democracy is.
Many Americans didn't participate in our democracy. Some even wrote in a gorillas name. Some voted third party.. it's not just the slack-jawed trump cultists that led to a trump victory..it was a lot of people that forgot you have to participate in democracy.
And its seeping into our watersupply. By all means, Canada has every right and has a need to act in its own self interests in their relations with the US.
The president doesn't convene a constitutional convention. Not sure why you're framing it as fear either. I think you're a bit misinformed.
No, but he can promote it to his base once he's been tricked into thinking one is a good idea and pressure state governments to convene one. And I'm sure a lot more states than usual would be interested in convening one nowadays.
Also, a constitutional amendment convention is generally feared, given the possibility it opens up to dissolve states from the union, remove or change established power structures and add amendments that fundamentally change the shape of the nation. Invoking it is considered hugely risky (depending on what the states bring to the convention to be discussed), so yeah, fear has been the predominant motivation for not doing one. You don't spread FUD on a topic like so many in the US do for something that is harmless.
Idk, it's a serious what the fuck globally. We went from Obama level function to instability. Reps that are literally dumb as fuck, corrupt, or don't give a shit. Our presence and reputation is affected by that. The world will not wait for the US to stop shitting it's election cycles. It will obviously move on without us.
You are probably right. It's why I think withdrawing from the iran deal is so dangerous. Not only does it jeopardize our Iran specific goals, it makes it clear foreign powers cannot trust that negotiations with the us are in good faith. I tend to think the relationship with close allies is probably salvageable, but those with rivals may not be. Which makes negotiations with nk terrifying.
And this is the leader of the United States. A man who cries and runs home when he doesn't get his way or things get difficult. That's one hell of a way to run a country.
There are too many pressing global issues to be solved that require international cooperation at levels never seen before.
No offence America but no matter how big and important as you think you are, or how much you personally revile Trump, we can't sit around waiting for you to sort your shit out. You've gone from a beacon of progress to an anchor.
Good luck, but the rest of the world has decisions to make at the adults table while Orange 45 sticks jello cubes up his nose at the kids table.
No offence America but no matter how big and important as you think you are, or how much you personally revile Trump, we can't sit around waiting for you to sort your shit out. You've gone from a beacon of progress to an anchor.
Good luck, but the rest of the world has decisions to make at the adults table while Orange 45 sticks jello cubes up his nose at the kids table.
He thinks literally just saying "I've been so tough on Russia" is a strong cover.
Healthiest man to ever hold the office!
What a fat sack of shit!
Everyone thinks you're a Russian puppet, so you call for them to get a spot on G7. Any rational human being would think, I should not do that, might look bad. So I guess he was forced to.
I call shenanigans on that number unless he's shorter than I think he is. I'm 6'2 and around that weight and dont appear nearly as balloon like.
are you trying to imply that this man falsified a medical report how dare you
are you trying to imply that this man falsified a medical report how dare you
I know, how could I possibly think such a thing!
are you trying to imply that this man falsified a medical report how dare you
Technically it wasn't that one.
It was the one who drinks at work, drunkenly bangs on co-workers' hotel rooms, and was suspiciously nominated to a position he really wasn't qualified for.
Didn't you see that with Obama? All Trump doesn is talk shit about him on Twitter - then the first time they meet in person he praises him - then a week later he is back to talking shit again on Twitter. Guy is a fucking coward.
Care to tell me how I'm wrong and cite evidence if available? I'm open to being wrong.
Mind you, if you just want to point and laugh, not do your part to prove me wrong and just expect me to "do my own research" which has already seemed to fail me in your assessment, that's your prerogative.
What about all the fat shaming? That's a cheap behaviour I would expect from the usual Trump supporter. You have bigger problems than your president being fat.
If his supporters weren't such cowardly idiots this would be (even though there have been plenty before) the moment they would be humbled. Rather than the world trembling at the boisterous threats of America's horrendously incompetent leader, other nations are figuring out ways to do business among themselves to sustain and grow their economies.
But you can't do that when you're just as much of a weak willed sack of shit that exudes false bravado to cover how fearful you really are. Watch as many twist contort themselves into a black hole to explain why having a worse economy is a good thing rather than admit that they are clueless cretins.
But you can't do that when you're just as much of a weak willed sack of shit that exudes false bravado to cover how fearful you really are. Watch as many twist contort themselves into a black hole to explain why having a worse economy is a good thing rather than admit that they are clueless cretins.
User warned: Needless weight shaming.
Dumbass Donald is a fat fuck.
Look at that Boss Trudeau. How handsome can you be. Macron looks pissed. Abe looks so happy
