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Lonestar

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Solid episode, definitely more of a lore buildup/chess piece moving episode. Feels like the 1st fully alive and healthy version of Julie since early season 1.

Kind of wondering what'll change, if that Priest/Hector doesn't come through with Anna's ship, going forward. Also, that Naomi can get off the Behemoth and back to the Roci in time for that thing. Especially how would she get back there before the MRCN ship following the Roci (unless it just continues on after EVA Holden.)

When does Amazon post the latest episodes?
Seems like it's around 2 or 3 AM CST.
 

Snack12367

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just finished S1. WTF is the Blue shit that just grabs people? That's terrifying.

I'm shocked at how much I enjoyed this show. I've always been meh on sci-fi shows. I hope S2 is just as good.
 

Dr Doom

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wow a flashback of Julie is still alive.
Hah! Amos sending messengers. I thought those messengers will land to their destination this episode. I guess it's a long flight.

I wanted Naomi stay with Drummer's crew but I guess her story there comes to an end
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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I guess I didn't understand the logistics of how the previous episode ended, didn't get that they had gone through the ring.
 

Zelas

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I guess I didn't understand the logistics of how the previous episode ended, didn't get that they had gone through the ring.
Pretty sure the end of episode 8 had the Roci and missile outside of the ring as you thought. Looked to me that this episode just picked up a few seconds/minutes later inside the ring as the Roci continued to move forward on its own, below the speed limit, and the missile being pulled towards the center since it tried to enter above the speed limit.

What I'm still trying to figure out is if the ring is flat on both sides when looking from the outside, while containing extra space that can only be perceived from the inside. There are shots from the inside, looking out to space, that make me wonder if there is some kind of convex lens somewhere near the front of it. A technical breakdown of how its supposed to be structured would be nice. Maybe a book reader could help with that?
 

ForgeForsaken

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20 minutes into the future.
Finally started watching this. I've read the books and this is a very smart adaptation. A little bummed they seem to have gotten rid of Sam though and merged her into Drummer. I wonder if they thought she'd be too much like Kaylee from Firefly?
 

Quinton

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Midgar, With Love
Oh man... the sneak peek for next week has me so effing hyped. I haven't read far enough in the books to have any idea what's going to happen but this feels like Stargate on acid.

Another great episode last night. Slower, for sure, but I'm grateful for it. It gave us some strong build-up moments. I'm not too surprised by the revelation of Melba's identity, but I am surprised at just how slanted her worldview seems to be!
 

Ignatz Mouse

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I personally like Anna. Like Amos, she's a pretty clear and consistent person with a different perspective. And of course, I assume her presence is a setup for something later.

I love the show, but I do have a beef that it's overly Holden-centric. Miller talks to Holden, Holden is the one going into the void, etc. Seems like without Naomi around (and Prax and Bobbi), Alex and Amos just let Holden do everything. I'd have been more interested in Amos taking that spacewalk, characterwise.
 

Somnia

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Where do I know the new woman from on the UN ship? She was in the flashback laughing and was with Elizabeth's character for a bit. The one in the break room.
 

Einchy

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I was gentle! lol

I would really fucking struggle to keep doing a big ol speech whilst loads of people started banging loudly out of time.
Did a legitimate nooooooo at Holden at the end.

Really enjoyed seeing more Julie. Same for Miller. Makes me grateful for the Proto Molecule's work.
I'm gonna start reading the books as soon as this series finishes. I'm surprised I didn't start earlier.
 

Einchy

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You know, I'm surprised that ball thing is so close to the Roci. I figured it was, I dunno, hundreds of miles away or something but then my guy started Iron Manning towards it.
 

thediamondage

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I personally like Anna. Like Amos, she's a pretty clear and consistent person with a different perspective. And of course, I assume her presence is a setup for something later.

I love the show, but I do have a beef that it's overly Holden-centric. Miller talks to Holden, Holden is the one going into the void, etc. Seems like without Naomi around (and Prax and Bobbi), Alex and Amos just let Holden do everything. I'd have been more interested in Amos taking that spacewalk, characterwise.

if Miller is talking to Holden only then he's the only one that can make the space walk since there will be more info later... so far, no one else can see him and he seems to vanish if anyone else shows up so it makes sense for him to go alone. I think the more interesting question is why is Miller 2.0 talking to Holden instead of one of the other people, although I guess he is the character he spent the most time with in season 1 (but does that matter?)

and yeah it'll be nice to have Naomi back on the Roci, without her it definitely feels like something is missing.

I really like Anna's character too so far, she seems a bit like a new viewers perspective. I wonder if we'll ever get back to Errinwright's character though, I assume he is in Earth Jail but I hope he's not gone forever.
 

Einchy

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Anna had a good story and good perspective during the beginning of the season but that got removed with the timeskip, it'll be interesting to see where she fits in now.
 

chalkitdown

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Oct 26, 2017
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Another great episode but more of a set up for what's to come. Holden was surprisingly funny this week. It's rare that Steven Strait gets to flex his comedy chops. Loved seeing Julie again even if they were just flashbacks. I hope the Doctor storyline leads to something good because at the moment they just tend to drag down the episodes a bit.

I miss the hell outta Avasarala and Bobbie, though :(
 
Oct 25, 2017
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if Miller is talking to Holden only then he's the only one that can make the space walk since there will be more info later... so far, no one else can see him and he seems to vanish if anyone else shows up so it makes sense for him to go alone. I think the more interesting question is why is Miller 2.0 talking to Holden instead of one of the other people, although I guess he is the character he spent the most time with in season 1 (but does that matter?)

and yeah it'll be nice to have Naomi back on the Roci, without her it definitely feels like something is missing.

I really like Anna's character too so far, she seems a bit like a new viewers perspective. I wonder if we'll ever get back to Errinwright's character though, I assume he is in Earth Jail but I hope he's not gone forever.
Could just be that he's the captain and so it'd be easier to get stuff done talking directly with him.
 

SupremeWu

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I mean she's not a bad actor (nothing special either). Her character and story does nothing for me though

I also dislike her.

Honestly who just takes it on themselves to assume another person with a family would want to stay behind in a dangerous unknown situation instead of just, going home. Then the priest has to feel bad. And then she goes and bothers someone while they're clearly working.

I don't care for that sort!
 
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It almost seemed like Anna forgot about her own family/didn't consider that she might be selfish until she talked to Hector. That's how I read that scene.

I was surprised that Naomi is done on the Behemoth already. I was enjoying that change from the book but I'm almost not sure why they bothered if she's headed back to the Rocinante already. Her chat with Ashford was a good scene though.

Preview suggests
Bobbie is back next week. That's a welcome surprise, though I wonder how she got back in the Martian military.
 

Lady Murasaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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I loved how the proto-Miller 2.0 snubbed Holden when he complained about the crime scene allegories LOL

Alex is so funny, love him. Amos too - ''I was being gentle!'', and he was INDEED.

I don't like Anna very much, but I agree it is nice she brings a different perspective to the story. It's funny how harsh she is on Martin when it comes to selfishness and legacy but she isn't that different.

Naomi too, I don't like her particularly, but, without her the Roci isn't the same at all. Drummer is one of my favorite characters, Cara Gee is so good. I was a little disappointed on Melba's plot though, I was expecting she was a protomolecule sleeping agent or something like this, especially after the brutal and inhuman way she killed Ren. I liked how they worked the consequences of his murder on her psyche though, it was complex, compared to most situations in which killing people doesn't seem to have an impact at all on the characters.

Seeing Drummer transforming Manéo into a martyr was bizarre but so realistic. I guess Ashford got what he wanted breaking the two women apart.
 

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
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Naomi too, I don't like her particularly, but, without her the Roci isn't the same at all. Drummer is one of my favorite characters, Cara Gee is so good.

I'm really enjoying Drummer/Gee. She's just fantastic. Makes up for losing the 2 book characters that merged into Drummer. I didn't like that she let Naomi go though. I mean I get it, but honestly they are on the verge of a shooting war against the Inners with a ship that's barely working. There is no way anyone would let the Chief Engineer go in that situation. I know Noami had to get back to the Roci and Naomi/Roci has to be in the good graces of the OPA, but it would have played better if she used her tech skills to sneak off.
 

Lonestar

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Yeah, I'd say that the Naomi leaving already, is kind of strange. Feels like it's too early, and too easy.
 

Lady Murasaki

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I'm really enjoying Drummer/Gee. She's just fantastic. Makes up for losing the 2 book characters that merged into Drummer. I didn't like that she let Naomi go though. I mean I get it, but honestly they are on the verge of a shooting war against the Inners with a ship that's barely working. There is no way anyone would let the Chief Engineer go in that situation. I know Noami had to get back to the Roci and Naomi/Roci has to be in the good graces of the OPA, but it would have played better if she used her tech skills to sneak off.

I felt she wanted to prove a point to Naomi, and this made her put their relationship above the needs of the Behemoth, even knowing the price. And maybe it was better to let her go than having another situation like they had with the Roci, could lead to Drummer losing her morale as Captain etc. I think it was also a way to show that the Belters are trying to prove they are civilized too and even a resistant person like Drummer bought into this narrative. The balance among the Belters was always fragile, and at this point, Naomi's loyalty really belongs to the Roci above everything else.
 

Rackham

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Are Drummer and Naomi supposed to be lovers or are they just close friends? Some language there that always makes me assume that they're more than friends
 

Einchy

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I thought that was clear. There's a new Belter government, and she felt a duty to help get it off the ground.
So, I dunno, I don't buy that because she had been with the Roci for a really long time and then goes back to get right away. Doesn't seem like her to leave them but it does seem like her to go back but, like, why did she feel so compelled to join them in the first place. If the show says that it's just as simple as her wanting to help the new government, then okay sure, but it doesn't feel like that's something she would've done.
 
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There was a lot of friction between her and the rest of the crew when they found out she gave the Protomolecule to Fred. I think they needed some space away from each other for a while.
 

SpartyCrunch

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So Julie's sister knows about the protomolecule, but she thinks her father was trying to warn everything else? I guess she doesn't know that her father was instrumental in weaponizing the protomolecule, so she's misguided in her attempt to take Holden down? Or am I missing something?
 
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