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Teacher was "forced" to resign for using a trans student's last name instead of preferred one.
- Thread starter Inugami
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The answer is always The Rock.Which eye roll is better suited to this.
The Rock
or Liz Lemon?
Teacher was being an ass
Yeah, none of my teachers had trouble calling me Dan instead of Daniel. In 5th grade we had a kid named Seth who went by Rusty and that was fine too. But now if John wants to go by Jen, that's just too controversial?
You'd think teachers would be some of the most adaptable adults around considering how much contact they have with the constantly shifting youth trends, but I guess everyone's got a line they can't cross. And at that point, well, there's not much to do besides quit or be fired.
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I mean... I even bolded the parts of the article that were important to this.
He intentionally went against the rules as a protest to calling the student by their preferred name. Why would you want a teacher on staff that carries that kind of bias against certain students?
Yep. I have a lot of experience with that, as someone who goes by a shortened form of their middle name. Since the only people who use my first name are people who don't know me, I've sort of come to associate my first name with that. So, I would actually prefer people calling me by my last name than my first name. I had some teachers who would do that, but it doesn't sound like this guy did for everyone, just this one particular student.
The guy is a teacher. He's the last person that should be taking a stand against a student's identity, and potentially harming them. He also broke the rules. Sounds like he deserved to get fired.
Imagine being so pressed that you think treating someone with basic respect is cosigning their entire life.
sounds like most of my middle school teachers, and even they would never do this shit...
He didn't even get fired he resigned and is complaining that they accepting his resignation.
This is so baffling. Growing up I always preferred to be called by my middle name so at the beginning of the year I would tell teachers to call me that instead, and they did. I even remember some teachers asking the class if they had a preferred name/nickname.
This guy is just a transphobic douche.
This guy is just a transphobic douche.
That's not what I asked. I understand why he was asked to leave, but what is inherently wrong with calling a person by their family name? Since when is using a persons last name an offence to anyone?
Not calling someone the first name they actually go by is just plain rude, and clearly offensive. Using last names is just... normal and even polite.
Are you telling me that a kid could request to be called Johnjacobjingleheimer Smith, and it would be wrong to call them Mr./Miss Smith?
It's wrong when it's done specifically to antagonize one student. He even said, in multiple ways, that was the reason.
It's an offense because of the reason he stated for doing it. Think of an authority figure telling you "I can't call you the N-word, but I'm going to call you monkey instead so just know that when I call you monkey I mean the N-word." Every time he called this person by their last name he was telling them that he didn't consider them human enough to call them by their preferred name.
This was a transgender student who went to a doctor and had a note saying for the school system to use their preferred name. The school system accepted this, and changed the name in the system. The teacher doesn't respect trans people or our identities, which is why he refused to use the preferred name. This isn't some made up nonsense name, this is someone's real name that they want people to respect and use. It's offensive to look for loopholes to not respect someone's gender identity.
If school rules were outside recess and a teacher with a student in a wheelchair decided one day that access ramps were against his religion (libertarianism) so now no one gets to go outside... Would you be sitting here going what's so offensive about staying inside? Everyone is staying inside.
It's not polite to insist on calling a trans person by their surname because you don't want to acknowledge their gender identity. It's very clear what's going on here - the teacher is very open about why he used surnames! It's against school policy and the teacher is a bigot.
Okay, so this is a specific harassment issue. I see now.
I thought this was a widespread thing where suddenly using last names is offensive. I assume it would be acceptable for the teachers to simply refer to all students by last name, which is what I thought this teacher was doing.
He did start using last names for all his students, specifically so he could avoid calling his trans student by their preferred name. The school allowed it for this one semester, apparently, but then told him he wouldn't be able to continue this "workaround" next school year.
trans threads make people want to leap in with a lot of assumptions. The hell?
Anyway Fox news wrote this up as well. Some other quotes:
I won't bother linking the article with 5000 bigoted comments. Disgusting would be too mild of a word.
Anyway Fox news wrote this up as well. Some other quotes:
I won't bother linking the article with 5000 bigoted comments. Disgusting would be too mild of a word.
Why people gotta be such dicks
This isn't about your precious 1st amendment, you idiot. Just follow your school's policies.
This isn't about your precious 1st amendment, you idiot. Just follow your school's policies.
Even the B's get side eyes...
Hell for some it's just the L's and that's because they love the fetishized porn.
So quick to assume that the teacher must be the victim when trans folks literally live as victims most of their lives just for existing.
What a coward. If being trans was a dangerous lifestyle then there would be studies showing this and he could bring them up to the school administration to make a case.
But there's not. What we do have are multiple studies and a plethora of data showing that letting trans people live the identity they align with dramatically improves their life, not least because the suicide risk goes down.
It's so disingenuous to say you care and not explain your reason for persecuting.
Same. Just because it's weird and my uncle was a local celebrity. But this is different. If I told them to stop, they all would have.
These quotes piss me off even more. As a teacher you are forced to do tons of things you don't agree with. I didn't agree with the testing culture we have in schools, but I had to administer the test, I didn't agree with some of the standards but I still had to teach them. He is just so full of shit.
His feelings are more important than the mental health of the student in his mind.
User Banned (1 Week): Defending transphobia.
I don't understand the vitriol toward the teacher in this thread? It seemed he wanted to be able to maintain his beliefs by compromising and instead of using the students birth name decided to use their last name.
Sure, he shouldn't expect to keep his job because of the school's policy, but not everyone agrees with transgenderism.
Sure, he shouldn't expect to keep his job because of the school's policy, but not everyone agrees with transgenderism.
Whether or not you agree with it you have an obligation to treat people with respect. Its part of being a decent human being.
Even if you don't consider transgender identities to be legitimate, you should always use the preferred name and pronouns. The only reason not to do it is to be an asshole.
Oh dear. And I'm sure all of the transgender people here just love how you don't "agree" with them.
You don't have to agree with something to be respectful of someone.
Not everybody agrees with homosexuality. If this was about a gay student, are we supposed to not think the teacher a bigot? Fuck the intolerance. He was targeting a kid, not an adult, which makes it that much worse.
The only people who disagree with "transgenderism" are bigots who should not be teaching schools because they are likely going to be antagonistic towards students.
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You don't have to agree with someone to be civil. It's a simple and reasonable request and says absolutely nothing about his personal values other than having basic courtesy if he calls them by the name they ask.
FYI, trans and gay aren't the same thing
OT: fuck this bigot. Glad he's fired.