This has 0 to do with the alt right. Alt right isnt a catch all scapegoat for all things bad in society. Poor treatment of indiginous people in canadian society has gone back over a century.
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When Someone Says Canada doesn't have a Racist Problem They're Full of Shit
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Trudeau did have it as one of his platform items and discussed it . As well as had multiple town hall sessions with First Nations. Have to start somewhere. It's a difficult situation to address to ensure all First Nations have the services they need due to the nature of them being a separate entity within the one and how you can manage those services. It's a challenge they are trying to take on.
Also as far as the racism part, I agree when we are talking about areas like Quebec - it's awful - but basing Canada off of Quebec or Alberta is like basing the US off of Texas or Alabama. It's the least progressive areas of Canada with a long history of racism that takes generations to weed out.
Quebec is definitely our most racist province by far.
Trudeau campaigned on truth and reconciliation and Parliament recently passed a bill to adopt the UN Declaration of Rights of Indigenous People into Canadian law, but many reserves still don't have clean drinking water.
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As someone who grew up just outside the Greater Montreal area, I've never bought into those sentiments that we don't have racists here. During the beginning of the Ariel Kouakou search, I remember the disgusting post I was seeing from Quebecers which were mostly based on his race.
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I disagree. The experience of living in Vancouver to Quebec City would be radically different of someone of a minority race and/or ethnicity.
Same as someone living in San Francisco to Mobile, Alabama.
It's those parts of the country that need the focus to change.
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You should compare that to America's indigenous population.Yep
And it's on many levels equal or worse than how the US treats Black folk.
Canada is racist to everyone. Just because the degree varies doesn't mean it's not there.
East Asian people are mocked all the time in Canada and there is significant xenophobia towards them especially when it comes to wealth.
First Nations are treated like shit.
Islamaphobia is rampant especially among the right.
Black people may not be shot in the street but lets not pretend like they enjoy the same quality of life or oppurtunity as white people. Black waitresses for example are relatively rare because no one wants to hire them.
Canada has a racist problem, period. And it's not just in Quebec and Alberta. Blaming those two provinces for a country-wide issue is pathetic. It's everywhere and anyone who disagrees is beyond ignorant.
East Asian people are mocked all the time in Canada and there is significant xenophobia towards them especially when it comes to wealth.
First Nations are treated like shit.
Islamaphobia is rampant especially among the right.
Black people may not be shot in the street but lets not pretend like they enjoy the same quality of life or oppurtunity as white people. Black waitresses for example are relatively rare because no one wants to hire them.
Canada has a racist problem, period. And it's not just in Quebec and Alberta. Blaming those two provinces for a country-wide issue is pathetic. It's everywhere and anyone who disagrees is beyond ignorant.
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https://www.npr.org/documents/2017/nov/NPR-discrimination-native-americans-final.pdf
https://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr11-17.pdf
Looking around First Nations in the US have it about as bad and often worse than Black folk... so the comparisons still stands.
This isn't oppression Olympics, it all sucks and Canada doesn't get to be less racist here.
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Canada is literally, literally, the birthplace of multiculturalism
Will Kymlicka amonst many others.
We are the only nation on Earth to have laws in place for secession.
Quebec itself since its the topic here was founded on the relationship between the french Samuel Champlain and his alliance with the Huron, he even adopted 3 aboriginal children.
Canada recognizes it is made of, this is Kymlicka jargon, 3 national groups, anglos, francos, and the aboriginal.
I live in a backwards ass town filled with racism, but politely fuck off with saying the whole nation has a problem with racism.
I work hard on studying multiculturalism, and am proud of how well the state has over time better managed its minority groups through the use of multicultural scholarship.
Will Kymlicka amonst many others.
We are the only nation on Earth to have laws in place for secession.
Quebec itself since its the topic here was founded on the relationship between the french Samuel Champlain and his alliance with the Huron, he even adopted 3 aboriginal children.
Canada recognizes it is made of, this is Kymlicka jargon, 3 national groups, anglos, francos, and the aboriginal.
I live in a backwards ass town filled with racism, but politely fuck off with saying the whole nation has a problem with racism.
I work hard on studying multiculturalism, and am proud of how well the state has over time better managed its minority groups through the use of multicultural scholarship.
Thank you.
Every province has racists and racist issues to one degree or another. Just read a CBC comments section or take a peek at some Facebook communities.
And yes, what these boys had to go through was utter bullshit, and it's disappointing and infuriating that no one spoke up for them.
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Hey thanks for telling me to fuck off for saying Canada has a racism problem. Btw, I've proved it.
All you have is pat backs and platitudes.
Not really, because alot of the bigoted and racist stuff america propagated, thanks to film, tv and internet, has bleed over to other countries. I have friends and families overseas that were accosted with american stereotypes and talking points straight out of fox news. While racism is for sure an issue in many countries in the world whether they admit it or not, one thing is true. The US is one of the countries who's influence was far reaching.
As far as systematic injustice within the country though, that def sounds like Canada and America have that in common.
That was a dark curtain in Canada's history, to be sure. At least the government has been trying to make amends after all these years, but still, it's only gradually been getting traction and most of that was in the past twenty years. The indigenous peoples of the country has wrestled with their new neighbors for an infamous amount of time... but then again, this is the case for a lot of countries appropriated by a newly dominant ethnogroup. It is unfortunate but hopefully one day these things will be properly addressed.
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The point being made here is that deflecting and saying #NotAllOfCanada isn't constructive. It changes the conversation and puts the focus AWAY from where it needs to be. If your body has an infection that's relegated to one or a few parts of it, the infection still affects the rest of the body and how you feel. No one would ever say "Shit, you can't speak because you have bronchitis, but hey, your legs work! So you're not ALL sick! Be grateful that you can walk and stop complaining about your bronchitis!"
Focus on the problem: there are racists in Canada. Focus on that issue.
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And here's the deal the baby steps forward ends the next time the CPC government's turn comes around.
I literally study multiculturalism at Uni, working on helping aboriginal groups better prosper is what Im working towards for bloody sake.
Im sorry If i get annoyed when someone criticizes the country whose the most forward thinking when it comes to managing minority groups
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I've literally proved we are not brah.
Stats literally bare out that we don't do that with our First Nations people.
I have stats what do you have?
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"The most forward thinking"
Also nah apology not accepted.
But were working tirelessly to try and fix that already. We have been since Diefenbaker tried to eliminate systemic racism in our immigration
I'm not sure if there are indigenous people ANYWHERE who aren't suffering heavily if they are the minority population.
The situation in Canada is a national disgrace given our otherwise chummy meekness.
I get so sobered by the stats every time they are brought out and I can't tell if this is like.. the "high point so far" either or if it's getting worse or not changing at all.
The situation in Canada is a national disgrace given our otherwise chummy meekness.
I get so sobered by the stats every time they are brought out and I can't tell if this is like.. the "high point so far" either or if it's getting worse or not changing at all.
My stats are the work my mentor and I, and the governments of Canada are doing to work with aboriginal advocacy groups and the BC treaty process
Edit: I know we have racism in Canada, but we are at the forefront on Earth in terms of progressing to eliminate it.
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Since Diefenbaker?!
Jesus christ dude twere were still ripping First Nations families apart and funneling kids to abusive Residential Schools and you're patting yourself on the back for Canada's anti-racism work in 1950s-1960s....
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Duuude. Just stop.
Go back to telling me to fuck off. At least that was honest.
Reminds me of watching a Stampede Wrestling episode from, I think 1979, where a fan yells "Jungle Bunny" at a heel Big Daddy Ritter (who would later become famous as Junkyard Dog in the WWF). It was kind of shocking to hear that from a Canadian crowd.
I've worked in Chisasibi and Mistissini. Canada definitely has a problem with racism against First Nations. I haven't seen much of it in Montreal, but it's definitely a 'out of sight, out of mind' thing where we are largely apathetic to how thr country treats First Nations.
Except Canada would be a lot more conservative without Quebec. Having lived as a minority in Quebec all my life, I can comfortably say Quebec as a whole is pretty racist outside Montreal (but Montreal still has its problems, of course). I would not live anywhere in Quebec outside Montreal.
It's just probably the most beautiful city with the most historical landmarks per square mile in Canada. It's the last place that still feels like old Europe in North America. The fact that people show their racism more openly there than in other canadian cities doesn't change that. It's okay if you don't care about Quebec but your statement is pretty dumb and I don't think it' a lack of ignorance as I know for a fact that you're an educated person.
To enduring white people telling you how Canada is the least racist place on Earth.
It's a great city. This was a tournament with out-of-city teams, the team that committed the offence was from Abitibi, which is Quebec's Sudbury/Thunder Bay. Speaking of which : http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/statscan-hate-crimes-2015-1.4158366
Absolutely, there is racism everywhere.
The thing is more that racism isn't well perceived here, where it can even be encouraged in certain regions of some other countries.
I am in Quebec City and there's definitely lots of racists, we had lots of broken shit last summer because those 'La Meute' racist motherfuckers wanted to express their 'freedom of speech'. Antifa went haywire and lots of cars and local businesses were affected by the damages.
The thing is more that racism isn't well perceived here, where it can even be encouraged in certain regions of some other countries.
I am in Quebec City and there's definitely lots of racists, we had lots of broken shit last summer because those 'La Meute' racist motherfuckers wanted to express their 'freedom of speech'. Antifa went haywire and lots of cars and local businesses were affected by the damages.
"How dare you make an accurate statement about my country!"
Nationalism is so fucking weird.
The systematic racism against the natives is pretty significant. With time, they can catch up to their big brother, the US.
I think she's referring to how a lot of Canadians see Canada as this place devoid of bigotry and prejudice when that is far from the truth.
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