CNN is reporting Anthony Bourdain dead at 61

Foffy said:

While he's banned, I want to examine his remark about selfishness. If anything, suicide is what happens when you're trapped in a self, trapped in a story, trapped in a feeling, trapped in a belief. When it feels like there's "no way out" other than taking yourself out, that's what happens when you're trapped in a mental vice.

To say those who harm themselves because they find it overwhelming is an act of "selfishness" really ignore that the issue is that it's so overwhelming that it rationalizies ending one's life as an escape. The problem here is in the mind, the one place our culture still overassumes and estimates can be usurped by willpower. This is what makes actual mental health care so erroneous in America, because we think with a click of a few fingers, one has disidentified with sorrow entirely. We don't get how it's more of a hijack and less of a choice.

Instead of calling people driven to such sorrows selfish, let's be aware at what sort of hell these people must be feeling, to feel so driven to end their own lives. It's always an action done as an escape, and that should really say it all in regards to the sheer volume of suffering one feels, when an escape from living can even be rationalized.

I'm very much hit hard by this news, as I am seeing my mother show much of these issues in real time while in hospital. I can say, even anecdotally, nobody goes on this dark path out of selfishness. What an ignorant thing to even think.

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Kimaris said:

I just don't understand why the people with the resources to get help don't seek it. I don't think mental health stigma is a valid excuse anymore. Does mental health treatment not work for suicidal people?

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Foffy said:

While he's banned, I want to examine his remark about selfishness. If anything, suicide is what happens when you're trapped in a self, trapped in a story, trapped in a feeling, trapped in a belief. When it feels like there's "no way out" other than taking yourself out, that's what happens when you're trapped in a mental vice.

To say those who harm themselves because they find it overwhelming is an act of "selfishness" really ignore that the issue is that it's so overwhelming that it rationalizies ending one's life as an escape. The problem here is in the mind, the one place our culture still overassumes and estimates can be usurped by willpower. This is what makes actual mental health care so erroneous in America, because we think with a click of a few fingers, one has disidentified with sorrow entirely. We don't get how it's more of a hijack and less of a choice.

Instead of calling people driven to such sorrows selfish, let's be aware at what sort of hell these people must be feeling, to feel so driven to end their own lives. It's always an action done as an escape, and that should really say it all in regards to the sheer volume of suffering one feels, when an escape from living can even be rationalized.

I'm very much hit hard by this news, as I am seeing my mother show much of these issues in real time while in hospital. I can say, even anecdotally, nobody goes on this dark path out of selfishness. What an ignorant thing to even think.

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Foffy said:

While he's banned, I want to examine his remark about selfishness. If anything, suicide is what happens when you're trapped in a self, trapped in a story, trapped in a feeling, trapped in a belief. When it feels like there's "no way out" other than taking yourself out, that's what happens when you're trapped in a mental vice.

To say those who harm themselves because they find it overwhelming is an act of "selfishness" really ignore that the issue is that it's so overwhelming that it rationalizies ending one's life as an escape. The problem here is in the mind, the one place our culture still overassumes and estimates can be usurped by willpower. This is what makes actual mental health care so erroneous in America, because we think with a click of a few fingers, one has disidentified with sorrow entirely. We don't get how it's more of a hijack and less of a choice.

Instead of calling people driven to such sorrows selfish, let's be aware at what sort of hell these people must be feeling, to feel so driven to end their own lives. It's always an action done as an escape, and that should really say it all in regards to the sheer volume of suffering one feels, when an escape from living can even be rationalized.

I'm very much hit hard by this news, as I am seeing my mother show much of these issues in real time while in hospital. I can say, even anecdotally, nobody goes on this dark path out of selfishness. What an ignorant thing to even think.

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"The so-called 'psychotically depressed' person who tries to kill herself doesn't do so out of quote 'hopelessness' or any abstract conviction that life's assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire's flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It's not desiring the fall; it's terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling 'Don't!' and 'Hang on!', can understand the jump. Not really. You'd have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling."

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Deranged Hermit said:

The world feels a little smaller today.

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SaturdayAwe said:

I literally tried to do the same thing 2 weeks ago, and I work as a cook right now too.

If he and Kate Spade can't get through this then how the fuck can I? This world is pointless.

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