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NBA Finals 2018 |OT| New Era, Same Teams

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EDeadman94

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Someone mentioned this before, but every West team that played these Warriors managed not to get swept by GS, if the Cavs get swept it will further solidify my belief that the degree of difficulty Bron has had during his postseason run is fluke-ish to say the least. Like, this beat down the Cavs are receiving wouldn't be exclusive from just the Warriors—1 through 8 in the West would put it on the Cavs. The Rockets might have been the champions this year easily, I don't think anyone can dispute that.
 
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One thing that is kind of frustrating to see all over Twitter including legit sites. The constant KD made a weak move by going to Golden State narrative. Firstly, I don't know anybody who wouldn't not make the switch for their day job. KD improved his chances of winning a ring many many times. This weak move narrative is stupid and dumb.

Secondly, if you're a lebron fan that's spinning this narrative, its laughable isn't it, that Lebron went to the Heat for the same reasons. And guess what, Lebron is about to leave and make another superteam. I guess that makes the NBA players a bunch of snakes.
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But Jordan would never do this!

Jordan would've went to the East and took the weakest team there and beat Golden State with them. BC HE WAS CRAZY COMPETITIVE IN A WAY NO PLAYER WAS.

Am I doing this right?

EDIT: LeBron beat that same team with a worse team. The context here isn't in the same, but I agree with you to an extent.
 
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This masterpiece was incredible—especially after how everyone overreacted to KD's two early TO's:



Plus the contested makes on most of the 3's besides the last one were fucking filthy.

Edit 1: Just so many things I can say about that pivotal game 3...Also, quicken and loans arena was the loudest arena in basketball last night during any point this season and for KD to do what he did in that environment!? God...

Edit 2: JR made 3 3pointers last night, there is a Cavs poster here who constantly stated that the Cavs don't lose games when JR hits 3 threes in a game...

Edit 3:...and of course KD disproved the infamous "when KD scores 40+ the Dubs never win, therefore the dubs are a worse team because of that" narrative.
 
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ViewtifulJC

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KD shits the bed in Houston series, he's dead quiet. He has two great games in the finals and the man can't stop jerking him off all night.

Wonder what happens if he's bad in game 4 and the warriors win.
 
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ViewtifulJC said:
KD shits the bed in Houston series, he's dead quiet. He has two great games in the finals and the man can't stop jerking him off all night.

Wonder what happens if he's bad in game 4 and the warriors win.
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Stfu especially after he cooked y'all in game 7 at your crib. The man just had the greatest game of his life and your Bron cummed up hand can't take it. Stop hating, especially when I'm stating facts and contributing to the thread productively.

This why I don't blame people when they question Bron cause guys like you revert to "he's meat riding" when I clearly told you this was coming...Calling another man King everyday is sus...
 
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ViewtifulJC said:
You could've stopped earlier in that post, the gay joke edited in at the end is a bit much. We get it, kid.
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pathetic twisting of my words on your part--no man nor women is ruler over me, just saying. You were better off staying away from the keyboard instead of trying to low blow me--you're to old for that shit.
 
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TSM said:
On one hand his move really was among the weakest in NBA history. On the other hands the overall basketball community deserves it for placing a player's entire legacy on how many rings they have at the end of their career.

Look on the bright side. He could look less bad if Lebron manages to join the GSW during the off season.
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Yup. The KD move was the next logical step in the ring culture mentality. If it wasn't going to be KD it was going to be someone else down the line of KD's caliber who went "fuck it I want a ring" and goes to the best team. We kept raising the value of rings and this is what we got. If you say the only thing that matters is rings then you can't hate a player for chasing them, even if they are a top 5 player.
 
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arbok26 said:


One thing that is kind of frustrating to see all over Twitter including legit sites. The constant KD made a weak move by going to Golden State narrative. Firstly, I don't know anybody who wouldn't not make the switch for their day job. KD improved his chances of winning a ring many many times. This weak move narrative is stupid and dumb.

Secondly, if you're a lebron fan that's spinning this narrative, its laughable isn't it, that Lebron went to the Heat for the same reasons. And guess what, Lebron is about to leave and make another superteam. I guess that makes the NBA players a bunch of snakes.
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... How is arguably the best offensive player in the league joining a 73-win team not a weak move? You don't know anyone that wouldn't make that day job switch? No shit... because it's easier from a labor perspective. He can have an off night and likely rely on Steph or Klay, and the same in reverse.

Look, he could've gone anywhere he wanted and he did. That's his right. Some of you just need to get over the fact that other people see it for what it is. Weak.

"oh a team with 4 all stars (3 of them being the top offensive talent) is winning the finals?

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arbok26 said:


One thing that is kind of frustrating to see all over Twitter including legit sites. The constant KD made a weak move by going to Golden State narrative. Firstly, I don't know anybody who wouldn't not make the switch for their day job. KD improved his chances of winning a ring many many times. This weak move narrative is stupid and dumb.

Secondly, if you're a lebron fan that's spinning this narrative, its laughable isn't it, that Lebron went to the Heat for the same reasons. And guess what, Lebron is about to leave and make another superteam. I guess that makes the NBA players a bunch of snakes.
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Wtf is this Bleacher Report
 

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Wow, game one aside, it's playing out just like last year. A game two blowout in Oakland, and a game three close game but soul crusher in Cleveland by Durant hitting 3's in the fourth once again while the Cavs go cold. But I think there will be a split in game four because the Cavs won't win that game this year. Last night was really only close because Klay and Curry were off and I don't expect that to happen again. I didn't like Lebron passing the balls to Tristan with only one minute left, or taking unnecessary 3's. They were in the bonus and he should have just attacked the basket every time. It's looking like game one will end up as the closest the Cavs will get to winning.
 
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I'm confident in saying if KD wasn't bitch made GS would still have only one title after choking in the Finals.
 
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... How is arguably the best offensive player in the league joining a 73-win team not a weak move? You don't know anyone that wouldn't make that day job switch? No shit... because it's easier from a labor perspective. He can have an off night and likely rely on Steph or Klay, and the same in reverse.

Look, he could've gone anywhere he wanted and he did. That's his right. Some of you just need to get over the fact that other people see it for what it is. Weak.

"oh a team with 4 all stars (3 of them being the top offensive talent) is winning the finals?

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LeBron set the precedent.
 
MrS

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King of losing indeed. Series is over lads. Wrap it up.

The only question that remains is whether or not Kerr is gonna bring out the broom a la Sean Payton.

 
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This led to...

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This.
 
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2nd year in and i'm still not understanding the "KD is a bitch" narrative.

If KD is weak for going to GSW, of every other team in the league, which team presents him with better or even the same opportunities, on and off the court, that Golden state does? There isn't one. So people were expecting him to handicap his career and lifestyle just to maintain some kind of sense of parity and competition?

Speaking of competition, part of any competition is finding and exploiting any and all of your competitive advantages. KD being on GS allows him to get the easiest baskets of his career and GS having KD means that they can have their other stars play poorly and still win off the strength of KD as witnessed in Game 3. It just is what it is. It's petty to be like "If GSW didn't have KD, Lebron would be getting his 5th ring" Regardless of how true that may be, it doesn't matter. KD is on the team and he provides GS with a great competitive advantage that allows them rise above whatever Lebron dishes out.

Let's face it. This is Lebron's NBA. He's the greatest talent of this generation bar none. He's the standard. Therefore i think people create dissonance for themselves in believing "well if 'the GOAT' can go to the finals 4 years in a row with a subpar roster, anybody who's poised to take the baton from Lebron needs to be capable/willing to do the same" or that it's not "fair" for lebron to be losing given that he's putting up monster triple doubles. For people to indict KD for the fact that his wins (and rings) now come a lot easier than Lebrons is weird.
 
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KD is too clutch, kinda feel sorry for LeBron, he is trying but no one is helping him.
 
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melikefishnchips said:
2nd year in and i'm still not understanding the "KD is a bitch" narrative.

If KD is weak for going to GSW, of every other team in the league, which team presents him with better or even the same opportunities, on and off the court, that Golden state does? There isn't one. So people were expecting him to handicap his career and lifestyle just to maintain some kind of sense of parity and competition?
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This is a weird situation where everyone is right to feel as they do. KD is right to go to GSW if he wants rings, GSW were right to sign him if they want rings, fans of parity and competition are right to feel shafted, fans of historically great teams are right to appreciate what they're seeing. No one has it wrong, it's just a matter of priorities.

Myself, I think the NBA would be much more fun if OKC, Golden State, and Houston were duking it out in a 3 way every year, with Kyrie leading a solid Boston team and LeBron doing whatever he's going to do next year. Five contenders every year is much more fun than 2 (if I'm including Houston).

Realistically, if I'm blaming anyone, it's the player's association for rejecting a smooth cap increase instead of a jump which enabled all this.

As an aside, LeBron didn't set the precedent for signing/trading into a superteam in the modern era; that was Boston.
 
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If the series ends Friday then KD probably bagged up FMVP with that game unless Steph puts up similar numbers in game 4
 
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bionic77 said:
That dude is really annoying.

It is hard for me to take him seriously.
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Saw a video a while back, but this guy is a disingenuous douchebag on top of being the crappier, alt Skip but with no charisma. He apparently called KD the best, and better than Bron since he's him but with a J in 2010 and said anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot on a tweet. Now he says KD has never been a better player than Bron for a single day in his lifetime, deleting those earlier tweets.

KD is balling. People who hate are just frustrated at Warrior dominance.
 
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ViewtifulJC said:
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I don't care how he looks.

What is annoying to him for me is his delivery. You can get away with saying over the top and stupid shit if you have a great delivery and are entertaining. See Stephen Smith, Skip Bayless, etc. I don't really like Skip but the guy is a master troll and has a fantastic delivery. Even when what he is saying is absolute trash (i.e. Nick Wright) its still kind of entertaining.

He is kind of in a shitty place. He is not a retired champion athlete put there for the athletes perspective. He is not someone who says anything particularly intelligent. He can't fill the womens chair. He is just a bad hot takes guy.
 
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bionic77 said:
I don't care how he looks.

What is annoying to him for me is his delivery. You can get away with saying over the top and stupid shit if you have a great delivery and are entertaining. See Stephen Smith, Skip Bayless, etc. I don't really like Skip but the guy is a master troll and has a fantastic delivery. Even when what he is saying is absolute trash (i.e. Nick Wright) its still kind of entertaining.

He is kind of in a shitty place. He is not a retired champion athlete put there for the athletes perspective. He is not someone who says anything particularly intelligent. He can't fill the womens chair. He is just a bad hot takes guy.
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The difference between Skip and him is that I get the feeling Skip doesn't believe all the bs he spouts, he is a pure entertainer. This guy has dumb hot takes but acts like he's a legitimate analyst...
 
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The difference between Skip and him is that I get the feeling Skip doesn't believe all the bs he spouts, he is a pure entertainer. This guy has dumb hot takes but acts like he's a legitimate analyst...
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Nah that is just their delivery.

Stephen A Smith has maybe the best delivery of all time. Skip is up there too. They are incredibly charismatic and entertaining.

You listen to those guys for how they sound more so than what they say.

Nick has nothing intelligent to say and has a horrible delivery so he is the worst of all worlds.
 

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Skip is 100% performance art, he's a LeBron hater to the very end but you can see him sometimes break character with Shannon Sharpe because even he knows its ridiculous,

Nick Wright's in the same boat as Cowherd. I think they actually believe what they're saying to some degree and they have the worst takes because of it.
 
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Ralemont said:
This is a weird situation where everyone is right to feel as they do. KD is right to go to GSW if he wants rings, GSW were right to sign him if they want rings, fans of parity and competition are right to feel shafted, fans of historically great teams are right to appreciate what they're seeing. No one has it wrong, it's just a matter of priorities.

Myself, I think the NBA would be much more fun if OKC, Golden State, and Houston were duking it out in a 3 way every year, with Kyrie leading a solid Boston team and LeBron doing whatever he's going to do next year. Five contenders every year is much more fun than 2 (if I'm including Houston).

Realistically, if I'm blaming anyone, it's the player's association for rejecting a smooth cap increase instead of a jump which enabled all this.

As an aside, LeBron didn't set the precedent for signing/trading into a superteam in the modern era; that was Boston.
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My one retort would be that im all for parity and competition being "maintained" in order to promote diverse outcomes and title runs however, most people who are upset about parity/competition and feel like KD ruined the league had no problem with the same man making it to the finals 8 years in a row.
 
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melikefishnchips said:
My one retort would be that im all for parity and competition being "maintained" in order to promote diverse outcomes and title runs however, most people who are upset about parity/competition and feel like KD ruined the league had no problem with the same man making it to the finals 8 years in a row.
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Only in retrospect, because he hasn't won it 8 years in a row. At the time when Miami formed the superteam, people were as upset or more with LeBron. He instantly became a villain, something which he only shed when he got housed by the Spurs and returned to Cleveland.
 
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Nick Wright is sort of playing a character also I think, albeit a boring one without the entertainment value of a Stephen A. or Skip. But he gained a lot of notoriety these last few years as "the Lebron guy". Especially as a guest on Cowherd's show, so he sort of just has to continue to ride that wave, even in situations like the present.

Basically like the inverse Skip Bayless. I doubt Skip believes all of his negative takes on Lebron, but it's part of his character, so he continues to ride it.
 
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