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duckroll

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This is pretty shocking news for this industry.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...or-apology-for-controversial-comments/.132504

The official Twitter accounts of voice actors and actresses Toshiki Masuda, Megumi Nakajima, and Kiyono Yasuno all announced their resignations from their respective roles in the television anime of MINE's [New Life+] Young Again in Another World (Nidome no Jinsei o Isekai de) light novel series on Wednesday. The talent management agency 81 Produce also announced Nanami Yamashita's resignation from the anime on the same day. According to their posts, Masuda, Nakajima, Yasuno, and Yamashita were slated to play the roles of the characters Renya Kunugi, Rona Chevalier, Shion Femme Fatale, and Creator in the anime.

So a little background. There's a new anime coming in October. Yet another adaptation of some dumb isekai (another world) light novel. This is the premise of how the incident started: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...onist-novel-creator-cause-controversy/.132291

The original light novels center on a Japanese protagonist who killed more than 3,000 people with a Japanese sword in the Second Sino-Japanese War, a conflict between China and Japan that ran from 1937-1945 and became part of World War II. After living to the age of 94, and killing another 2,000 people through the course of his life, the character gets reborn as an 18-year-old man in another world.
Online commenters are also criticizing MINE for more than the content of his light novels. @SonmiChina posted images of MINE's tweets from 2013-2015 that appear to criticize China. @SonmiChina describes the tweets as "hate speech" toward China. In addition to expressing controversial opinions, the tweets refer to China as "bug country," using kanji characters that may have the same pronunciation as the word "China" in Japanese. Additionally, @SonmiChina posted images of MINE's tweets from 2012-2014 that appear to contain anti-Korean sentiments and similar derogatory euphemisms for the country of South Korea.

So this is a stupid ass "reborn in another world" story except the protagonist appears to be some weird power fantasy glorifying an Imperial Japanese soldier from the worst point of modern Japanese history. And the author appears to be a racist shithead who has no filter on Twitter as well. Brilliant. Except normally nothing happens because the composer of Dragon Quest is a war crime denier, and the author of Kenshin is a convicted owner of child porn. Why is it different this time. Why did anyone resign? Is it because they had enough of injustice? Or is it because they really wanted an excuse not to work on another shitty isekai adaptation? Discuss.


---- UPDATE ----

The anime adaption is now completely cancelled.
「二度目の人生を異世界で」アニメ化中止のお知らせ

アニメ化発表以来、一連の事案を重く受け止め、
本アニメの放送及び製作の中止をお知らせ致します。

みなさま、及び本作品の制作に関わった方々には多大なるご迷惑、
ご心配をおかけしました事、心よりお詫び申し上げます。

「二度目の人生を異世界で」製作委員会
 
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Thorn

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Oct 25, 2017
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The industry wont mourn the loss of a generic ass Isekai.

Good on those VA for not supporting this garbage.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well, good for them regardless. The Japanese were monsters to the chinese people during that time. Rape, pillage, murder, and burn was pretty much their whole war strategy.
 

Thorn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, good for them regardless. The Japanese were monsters to the chinese people during that time. Rape, pillage, murder, and burn was pretty much their whole war strategy.

I'd like to think that its not a small minority of Japanese who oppose Abe's administration of trying to pretend it never happened. I don't know though. I know its very popular to do so among the older generations, and Japan has that hole "Nail that stands out gets the hammer" thing.
 

Nightbird

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Oct 27, 2017
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How did something with such a dumb premise even get popular enough to receive a TV adaption in the first place?

But good on the VA's to not get associated with this
 

Thorn

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Oct 25, 2017
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How did something with such a dumb premise even get popular enough to receive a TV adaption in the first place?

But good on the VA's to not get associated with this

Isekais are what are "in" right now so anime execs are just throwing whatever they can find against the wall and see what sticks. Happens all the time.
 

Cantaim

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Japan the fuck? Like not at the cast that had the decency to stand down, those people are cool. But at the executives who green lit this and to the people that read that dreck enough to make an anime viable.
 

Zeno

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Oct 25, 2017
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So is the anime cancelled now? Having the VA's bail out seems like a big deal considering how much they tend to get paid for their part in the show.
 

Opto

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Christ. These days you could probably get your own anime by writing your own light novel and pay to translate it into japanese.
 

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Good lord that show's premise just sounds vile. Yeah, let's glorify an era of war crimes.

Good on the cast for resigning - has there been precedent of similar things happening in other anime?
 
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This thread prompted me to try to look up this novel. None of the descriptions make any mention of the protagonist having killed 3000 people during the war. For now I'm going to assume that this little detail's been intentionally omitted.

Even without that this story doesn't look particularly remarkable as a bog-standard isekai.
 

studyguy

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Remember reading about this in a discord and laughing my ass of as to how anyone thought this would ever make it to animation once it got more scrutiny. This is ending in the disaster that it sounded like from the jump.
 

Qvoth

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i think i've read a bit of the manga, i remember he's supposed to be an old man, didn't know he's ww2 vet
those people probably resigned to avoid the controversy, this can't be compared to dragon quest or rurouni kenshin which are huge IPs
 

Sybil

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Oct 27, 2017
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Woof, what a hateful-ass guy. The gist of the story also sounds like an especially dumb power-fantasy waifu isekai, the hell
Good on the seiyuu for resigning. First I was a bit sad as Masuda's fan since this would be one of the first few times he gets to be THE lead, but his work recently has been growing exponentially. so whatever
 
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i think i've read a bit of the manga, i remember he's supposed to be an old man, didn't know he's ww2 vet
those people probably resigned to avoid the controversy, this can't be compared to dragon quest or rurouni kenshin which are huge IPs

I just brisked through some of the manga and there's no mention that he's a ww2 vet. The editors must've smartly had him omit that part.
 

The Silver

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I can't remember the last time I've read an anime synopsis that generic, someone tell he gets killed by a truck.
 

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This thread prompted me to try to look up this novel. None of the descriptions make any mention of the protagonist having killed 3000 people during the war. For now I'm going to assume that this little detail's been intentionally omitted.

Even without that this story doesn't look particularly remarkable as a bog-standard isekai.

From what I heard it was just a line or two at the beginning of the novel. It was only there to add more credibility to the MC proficiency in war. Doesn't even add anything to the story, other than battle skills, as he looses all his previous memories when reborn.
 

Yukari

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Can we get Isekai'd Putin anime instend ? (I don't know some manga page allow or not )

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CosmicGP

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I didn't know that title was getting an anime. Thank goodness. There are decent amateur isekai novel out there, give it to those (rezero being an example). Why do they love making anime out of really bad works? Seems like they're trying their hardest to find coma-inducing stories, those that you can marathon in one sitting then forget all about it after 10 minutes.
 
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This is pretty shocking news for this industry.
Except normally nothing happens because the composer of Dragon Quest is a war crime denier, and the author of Kenshin is a convicted owner of child porn. Why is it different this time. Why did anyone resign? Is it because they had enough of injustice? Or is it because they really wanted an excuse not to work on another shitty isekai adaptation? Discuss.

To be honest, DQ composer's personal feeling aside, I don't think any of DQ's iconic tunes are blaring out nationalistic messages. Kenshin's story also doesn't revolve around the author's own fetishes and is generally quite tame in fanservice. They dodged the bullet because they don't let their personal opinions/vices dominate their works.

In fact the first Anime News network link you posted was just about how MINE started a controversy thanks to his nationalistic twits. Only in the second link we got a description of the protagonist's imperial past. And this is from another twitter who identifies himself as Chinese, possibly someone with an axe to grind.

I don't really care enough about this genre to actually look up the original source. So hoping someone will post the offending passages so we can decide.
 

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I didn't know that title was getting an anime. Thank goodness. There are decent amateur isekai novel out there, give it to those (rezero being an example). Why do they love making anime out of really bad works? Seems like they're trying their hardest to find coma-inducing stories, those that you can marathon in one sitting then forget all about it after 10 minutes.

Advertisement, like most anime its job is to promote the source material. The anime will most likely not make money back, but as long as the books get a boost in sales, it has completed its purpose.
 

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One Winged Slayer
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I have read some of the manga and honestly, even without the godawful gross idea for the reason why the main character is ''cool and powerful'' the story itself is a extremely generic and boring harem power fantasy stuff.

Good on the cast and their agency for respecting their wishes, that author said that he plans to ask for the publisher to reprint the novels without the war stuff but given the mess that this is I really do think they will just cancel everything about it outright. There's hundreds of other power fantasy isekai stories that don't have to resort to shit like this so good riddance.
 
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duckroll

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And this is from another twitter who identifies himself as Chinese, possibly someone with an axe to grind.
Ah yes, how devious. An axe to grind against nationalist Japanese who are sympathetic to and proud of their war past. Of course.

Sorry but fuck any Japanese nationalist who has an ounce of passion for the "glorious" past where soldiers conquered, raped, and murdered people in neighboring nations. Fuck Japan in World War 2. Fuck Japan during the Korean Occupation. Fuck Japan for invading South East Asia. Fuck the emperor. Fuck the generals. Fuck the imperial army. And fuck every single asshole who pays tribute and donates to the Yasukuni Shrine. Fuck Shinzo Abe. Fuck Koichi Sugiyama. Etc. Disgusting worthless walking corpses.
 

Kewlmyc

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Oct 25, 2017
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I won't mourn over an anime adaption of yet another "web novel turned light novel" isekai not going through. The industry is flooded with its tripe. Not all isekai is bad, I've enjoyed a few of them, but dear god, it's some of the laziest wish fulfillment crap ever.

That being said, an isekai where the protag is a veteran that has 5000+ kills of Chinese soldiers (only using a katana for added fanwank) and we're supposed to be proud of him for that, just sounds tacky as all hell. Doesn't surprise me the author is a racist.
 
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Ah yes, how devious. An axe to grind against nationalist Japanese who are sympathetic to and proud of their war past. Of course.

Sorry but fuck any Japanese nationalist who has an ounce of passion for the "glorious" past where soldiers conquered, raped, and murdered people in neighboring nations. Fuck Japan in World War 2. Fuck Japan during the Korean Occupation. Fuck Japan for invading South East Asia. Fuck the emperor. Fuck the generals. Fuck the imperial army. And fuck every single asshole who pays tribute and donates to the Yasukuni Shrine. Fuck Shinzo Abe. Fuck Koichi Sugiyama. Etc. Disgusting worthless walking corpses.

You sound like you need to get back on your medicines.

Just because Japanese imperialists are bad, doesn't means Chinese twitter can start posting made up news without proper sources.
 
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duckroll

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You sound like you need to get back on your medicines.

Just because Japanese imperialists are bad, doesn't means Chinese twitter can start posting made up news without proper sources.
Ah yes, the medication come back. Real cool.

You think the entire Japanese cast resigned because of Fake News from "Chinese twitter"? Whatever that even means. The Japanese site for the anime is blocked outside of Japan now too. Did they do that also because of Fake News from China? Please tell me more.
 

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One Winged Slayer
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Well, at least taking a small look at the cast's twitter announcement most people seem happy that they are out of this, at least people are sensible to know that they being involved with this was going to be a awful thing.

Fuck this racist author.
 

Myradeer

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Wow, I thought that infamous light novel where protagonist magic nukes China was bad, but looks like light novel writers are determined to keep jumping the shark.
 

Garmonbozia

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Harem power fantasy isekai trash + nationalistic/imperialist wank. The voice actors made a good choice.
 
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duckroll

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And to put to rest the lame claims of the imperialist hero being "fake news" from China:

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Unless you think the entire image is doctored too.
 

Rosenkrantz

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So, chinese market actually matters now? I can't believe people who haven't had any problems in making that garbage called GATE (poor ass JSDF propaganda), which was written by the war crime denier and portrayed Japanese forces like some kind of incorruptible big good, give 2 shits about controversy.
 

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Isekai trash is the worst trend in the industry, but I don't mind it as long as it's not a nationalistic power fantasy... sadly this happens way too much. Hope people stand up more against this. I'll never support trash like Gate or Mahouka.

You sound like you need to get back on your medicines.

Just because Japanese imperialists are bad, doesn't means Chinese twitter can start posting made up news without proper sources.
What the hell are you saying. That's in the original novel.

Stop defending nationalist crap.
 

M-M

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Except normally nothing happens because the composer of Dragon Quest is a war crime denier, and the author of Kenshin is a convicted owner of child porn. Why is it different this time. Why did anyone resign? Is it because they had enough of injustice? Or is it because they really wanted an excuse not to work on another shitty isekai adaptation? Discuss.

Probably a combination. I think it also helps that the project is getting heat so early on. If the anime got popular and this controversy only started after it reached prominence, I think people would be more reluctant to leave. I'm not going to assume that the VAs who resigned don't care about the injustice, but I think the most likely thing is that they saw where things were going and thought it'd be safer from a career standpoint to bow out early. It doesn't really sound like they were being offered much to risk getting sucked into the author's mess.
 
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duckroll

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So, chinese market actually matters now? I can't believe people who haven't had any problems in making that garbage called GATE (poor ass JSDF propaganda), which was written by the war crime denier and portrayed Japanese forces like some kind of incorruptible big good, give 2 shits about controversy.
Yeah it's really surprising to actually see some sort of fallout for shit like this when it feels like everyone was already normalized towards that stuff. Bad shit happening in the anime/manga/LN industry? Ignore it and move on! That seemed to be the mantra for the longest time. Suddenly... this? Wonder if the anime is going to get canned by the end of this week.