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scitek

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i ain't the biggest fan of woody allen but i gotta be objective from what i read.

He is not saying he is a great guy by NOT doing those shitty stuff.

He's saying that...he's been accused of only once and was proven to be innocent ages ago and yet he's been lumped to the same group of 'monster men' by the keyboard warriors...just because..

It's the Ryan Seacrest defense.

For some reason, this interview, and Bill Clinton's recent one came off similarly in tone.
 

Green Yoshi

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Oh fuck off you piece of shit.

I barely molested anyone, aren't I a great guy?

To those who have become convinced of my father's guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html

Whether or not you believe the accusations against him, he's being a real cunt here. You don't deserve praise for not sexually assaulting women.

His movies during the 1980s were quite progressive. In "Hanah and Her Sisters" all major roles are played by women.

It's really sad how the right wing media and tabloids have manipulated people. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that he's Jewish.
 

Volimar

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It's really sad how the right wing media and tabloids have manipulated people. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that he's Jewish.

I think it has more to do with the fact that his daughter says that he molested her. Post Moses all you want, but Ronan believes her so strongly that it gave him the drive to relentlessly go after Weinstein in the first place. I don't see why Moses has any more credibility than the Pullitzer Prize winner that helped expose one of the biggest monsters in the entertainment industry.

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/ronan-farrow-moses-farrow-woody-allen-dylan-farrow-1201968121/

"My sister's allegation is backed by a significant body of credible evidence, including physical evidence and eyewitnesses to abuse. I hesitated to speak on this only because I didn't want to draw attention to a smear campaign that has been running since Dylan's pediatrician first called the police almost 30 years ago. I believe my sister."
 

Green Yoshi

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As long as Americans ignore facts, they deseve Donald Trump as president. Because if facts don't matter anymore, then even someone who is lying all the time can become president.
 

Ketkat

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As long as Americans ignore facts, they deseve Donald Trump as president. Because if facts don't matter anymore, then even someone who is lying all the time can become president.

Why is that the part you focus on, and not the part where she says she was molested and her brother backing her up? How is her not being his daughter the big takeaway and what in the world does this have to do with Trump?
 

Green Yoshi

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Why is that the part you focus on, and not the part where she says she was molested and her brother backing her up? How is her not being his daughter the big takeaway and what in the world does this have to do with Trump?

If that's true, why wasn't there a lawsuit against him? Mia Farrow could have afforded the best lawyers.

The doctor who headed the Connecticut investigation into whether Woody Allen molested his 7-year-old daughter, Dylan, theorized that the child either invented the story under the stress of living in a volatile and unhealthy home or that it was planted in her mind by her mother, Mia Farrow, a sworn statement released yesterday says.

Dr. Leventhal said it was "very striking" that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with "one, her father's relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother," who had lost a career in Mr. Allen's films.

He also said it was possible that Miss Farrow encouraged her child to fabricate simply by videotaping her telling the story, because Dylan liked to perform.

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/...nsistencies-in-dylan-farrow-s-statements.html
 

Volimar

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If that's true, why wasn't there a lawsuit against him? Mia Farrow could have afforded the best lawyers.

The doctor who headed the Connecticut investigation into whether Woody Allen molested his 7-year-old daughter, Dylan, theorized that the child either invented the story under the stress of living in a volatile and unhealthy home or that it was planted in her mind by her mother, Mia Farrow, a sworn statement released yesterday says.

Dr. Leventhal said it was "very striking" that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with "one, her father's relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother," who had lost a career in Mr. Allen's films.

He also said it was possible that Miss Farrow encouraged her child to fabricate simply by videotaping her telling the story, because Dylan liked to perform.

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/...nsistencies-in-dylan-farrow-s-statements.html


That's not evidence, it's supposition. If you want to believe Allen that's your business, but don't act like it's a known fact that he was innocent of the molestation that his daughter accuses him of.
 

Ketkat

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If that's true, why wasn't there a lawsuit against him? Mia Farrow could have afforded the best lawyers.

The doctor who headed the Connecticut investigation into whether Woody Allen molested his 7-year-old daughter, Dylan, theorized that the child either invented the story under the stress of living in a volatile and unhealthy home or that it was planted in her mind by her mother, Mia Farrow, a sworn statement released yesterday says.

Dr. Leventhal said it was "very striking" that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with "one, her father's relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother," who had lost a career in Mr. Allen's films.

He also said it was possible that Miss Farrow encouraged her child to fabricate simply by videotaping her telling the story, because Dylan liked to perform.

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/...nsistencies-in-dylan-farrow-s-statements.html

How convenient of you to cut out this part of that.

The doctor acknowledged that "We don't have firm evidence that Miss Farrow coached or directed Dylan to say this." An Edited Transcript

And you really need to step back and think about why the #MeToo movement has come to be. The vast majority of cases like this never see a conviction because of the way they're carried out, and the way that victims are treated. Going through the proper channels doesn't work, especially against people who are in a position of power, which is why all of this had to become a movement on Twitter and not a movement in the court system. Do you think that the other accusations from #MeToo aren't credible because people haven't been able to go after the people they're accusing? Because last time I checked, most of the people accused have had almost nothing happen to them.
 

McMahon

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If that's true, why wasn't there a lawsuit against him? Mia Farrow could have afforded the best lawyers.

The doctor who headed the Connecticut investigation into whether Woody Allen molested his 7-year-old daughter, Dylan, theorized that the child either invented the story under the stress of living in a volatile and unhealthy home or that it was planted in her mind by her mother, Mia Farrow, a sworn statement released yesterday says.

Dr. Leventhal said it was "very striking" that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with "one, her father's relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother," who had lost a career in Mr. Allen's films.

He also said it was possible that Miss Farrow encouraged her child to fabricate simply by videotaping her telling the story, because Dylan liked to perform.

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/...nsistencies-in-dylan-farrow-s-statements.html

Victim blaming is disgusting. Just because someone doesn't take legal action against someone else doesn't mean they are lying. This is the same garbage spewed by alt-right assholes all over the internet and places blame on the victim for not acting against their perpetrators. That's gross and disgusting behavior so fix yourself.
 

Green Yoshi

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That's not evidence, it's supposition.

It is the prosecutor who must provide the evidence, not the defendant.

I support the #MeToo and #TimesUp movement but I think that people like Mia Farrow are hurting the movement.
She's using it for her personal campaign against Woody Allen.

Victim blaming is disgusting. Just because someone doesn't take legal action against someone else doesn't mean they are lying. This is the same garbage spewed by alt-right assholes all over the internet and places blame on the victim for not acting against their perpetrators. That's gross and disgusting behavior so fix yourself.
We are not talking about "someone", but about Mia Farrow. She did take legal actions to get custody.
 
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Volimar

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It is the prosecutor who must provide the evidence, not the defendant.

I support the #MeToo and #TimesUp movement but I think that people like Mia Farrow are hurting the movement.
She's using it for her personal campaign against Woody Allen.

What are you even talking about? You posted a doctor basically making up what if scenarios and then cut out the part where he says there's no evidence that any of that happened. You completely glossed over Ketkat's post to say you support the movement when your strenuous arguments calling a victim a liar prove otherwise. Yeah you're a real ally.
 

Green Yoshi

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You completely glossed over Ketkat's post to say you support the movement when your strenuous arguments calling a victim a liar prove otherwise. Yeah you're a real ally.

We don't know if there is a victim. That's the whole point.

Moses Farrow also wrote about the other kids in the house:

Most media sources claim my sister Tam died of "heart failure" at the age of 21. In fact, Tam struggled with depression for much of her life, a situation exacerbated by my mother refusing to get her help, insisting that Tam was just "moody." One afternoon in 2000, after one final fight with Mia, which ended with my mother leaving the house, Tam committed suicide by overdosing on pills. My mother would tell others that the drug overdose was accidental, saying that Tam, who was blind, didn't know which pills she was taking. But Tam had both an ironclad memory and sense of spatial recognition. And, of course, blindness didn't impair her ability to count.

The details of Tam's overdose and the fight with Mia that precipitated it were relayed directly to me by my brother Thaddeus, a first-hand witness. Tragically, he is no longer able to confirm this account. Just two years ago, Thaddeus also committed suicide by shooting himself in his car, less than 10 minutes from my mother's house.

My sister Lark was another fatality. She wound up on a path of self-destruction, struggled with addiction, and eventually died in poverty from AIDS-related causes in 2008 at age 35.

For all of us, life under my mother's roof was impossible if you didn't do exactly what you were told, no matter how questionable the demand.

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html
 

Naijaboy

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Sure Woody. Sure...

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