I'm glad you're enjoying your X930E
Because I use my TV 90% of the time for horro and retro games, the infinte contrast ratio with the quick response time and motion blur of the screen make OLED the perfect fit for me.
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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I'm glad you're enjoying your X930E
Because I use my TV 90% of the time for horro and retro games, the infinte contrast ratio with the quick response time and motion blur of the screen make OLED the perfect fit for me.
I would have loved to go OLED but the 50-60% additional cost here wasn't worth it. X900F brightness and HDR are pretty amazing so I'm happy with it. Honestly more surprised with the HT-X9000F sound bar though, huge difference in usability and just sheer soundstage versus the cheap Sony model I went with before.
I am honestly stunned by how far LED panels have come since I bought my plasma about 8 years ago. I mean 8 years is a really long time as technology goes but my plasma could never match the image this TV is putting out.
Aaaa-yup. Obviously, OLEDs are going to have a better overall picture, particularly for dark-room viewing, but it's impressive how much better the LCD options are than in the past.
With deals on OLEDs getting into the $1k-2k range, and good LCDs for those who want them (especially considering stuff like the TCLs that are goofy-good for the money), there are just a lot of great displays for the money out there.
Yeah, I'm very glad I left my plasma in the past. Enjoyed it while it lasted though.
It sounded like you are very sensitive to motion stuttering so LED is the right choice for you.
I'm still debating pulling the trigger on that 65" TCl for $1k. The issue is just, as a poor dude, I just have a hard time spending $1k on a TV. I could buy multiple other toys (how about a 600 PC monitor +400 drone? Or $500 Laptop and $500 gun?) with that or otherwise do more responsible things.
But there doesn't seem to be any good options.
Go with some crappy 300 nit 65" somewhere (which will still probably cost 700+)? Go with the 55" TCl for only 600 (same size as my current 330 nit TV, so wow factor I suspect will be pretty muted)? Even wait until next year and troll Slickdeals for Wal Mart clearance YMMV of the 2018 models/other deals?
Honestly I might even be interested in the 2018 Vizio E-series if they hit some middle ground of around 400 nits with good input lag in a low priced 65". Except there's no reviews of the 2018 Vizio's yet. Being beholden to slowwwwly arriving reviews is annoying.
First world probs.
But there doesn't seem to be any good options.
Go with some crappy 300 nit 65" somewhere (which will still probably cost 700+)? Go with the 55" TCl for only 600 (same size as my current 330 nit TV, so wow factor I suspect will be pretty muted)? Even wait until next year and troll Slickdeals for Wal Mart clearance YMMV of the 2018 models/other deals?
Honestly I might even be interested in the 2018 Vizio E-series if they hit some middle ground of around 400 nits with good input lag in a low priced 65". Except there's no reviews of the 2018 Vizio's yet. Being beholden to slowwwwly arriving reviews is annoying.
First world probs.
man I totally missed the Oppo news. That's crazy.
Even crazier that the player is now 700-900 dollars on the secondary market.
such a market hole
Even crazier that the player is now 700-900 dollars on the secondary market.
such a market hole
So the horizontal line I mentioned is definitely caused by YouTube, since I also noticed the YouTube icon on the top left. This is most likely because I use YouTube daily and tend to leave the TV sit idle on the YT interface for extended stretches of time.
Is it possible it will fade away with time? It's probably been a week since I've noticed this. Any sure-fire tips to removing burn-in from an OLED would be the most helpful.
I spoke to LG live chat and they gave me the numbers for two local service shops. I'll have to call tomorrow and see what they provide.
Is it possible it will fade away with time? It's probably been a week since I've noticed this. Any sure-fire tips to removing burn-in from an OLED would be the most helpful.
I spoke to LG live chat and they gave me the numbers for two local service shops. I'll have to call tomorrow and see what they provide.
The first paragraph is true the second is false. You set up two accounts and can have them running on the Apple TV concurrently. It takes one click to switch and you can do as often as you like.
As I said, I don't have an Apple TV. On any iOS device the switch penalty is true. On TvOS, I stand corrected - it supports multiple accounts. In which case you still need to make one account per region and still need to setup payment on each, but then as they're both active you can switch without penalty. The trick is to remember which one you have active though as the store will only reflect the active user.
Anyway, it's good to know. The iTunes world is mostly useless in this part of the world but having multiregion access is a compelling case to buy Apple TV again.
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There's no "fix." it might lessen overtime as other pixels age around it but i wouldn't count on it.
You need to change your viewing habits.
I was the same way, but then I realized that I spend a lot of time gaming and watching shows on my TV. Might as well spend the extra money to get something nice if I'm going to use it frequently. Same concept applies to bed mattresses.
End of the day, the OLED wasn't working for you, and the 930e does, awesome that you are happy with it, after all it is one of the best TV's, and there is nothing worse than spending a load of cash and not liking the TV you've bought (been there plenty of times) :)
Ok so here's where I'm at right now:
Got rid of CRU and installed latest Nvidia drivers.
1440p and 1800p work fine (no HDR when on desktop but HDR works in games when running at those res so i'm fine with this, since desktop is staying at 4k)
Previously, in the sound properties I didn't have DTS, Dolby digital, etc.. But they are now present in supported encoded format. BUT I'm still limited to 2 ch. audio, which is stange because compressed format should be able to deliver 5.1 over HDMI :/ (and the C7 has passthrough since my PS4pro and One X are connected via HDMI to the TV and then Optical from the TV to the home theatre and it works)
I can't have a second DP cable for audio as you suggested because my PC is in a different room as the TV and they are connected via a 10m HDMI + repeater + 1m HDMI and I don't want to re-open the wall and install another 10m+ of cables ^^'
So is there a way to fix this, or am I stuck with 2 ch. audio ?
Your set up is HDMI from PC to TV, and then Optical from TV to receiever? There is no way to get 5.1 that way, your PC is reading the EDID of your TV, not the receiever. Game consoles are built to output 5.1 regardless, but Windows doesn't for some reason. The only way to get 5.1 is hook your hdmi from the PC into the receiver, or run a second hdmi cable from the PC to the receiver for sound.
Thanks for your response.
Unfortunatly, you confirmed what I suspected ^^' So no 5.1 for me since I won't run another cable across my appartment (and every inputs are already taken on my receiver anyway).
At least I have the resolution issue sorted out ^^
Watched a HDR movie in the dark with it yet?
If you found the B7 too bright in those conditions the X930E will turn you blind
Yep you're totally right. The brightness is insane but I've been able to adjust the backlight to a level that makes it more tolerable. There's no way people are actually watching content at that brightness level at night right?
Yes. Having backlight at max is how all HDR content is intended to be watched. Messing with the backlight changes the curve.
Hmmm. Maybe I just have very sensitive eyes then. HDR actually didn't seem as bright as SDR. Like the TV compensated for it or something. I'll check it out again tonight after work.
Ultimately if I end up viewing HDR at reduced luminance I really don't mind. The image still looks good and my eyes head won't suffer.
Ignore anyone who tells you how to properly watch your TV, watch it how you feel most comfortable and with the settings that make you most happy, be it reduced brightness or soap opera effect.
It breaks my heart even more since I have a Denon 5800 reciever - aka 170 watts X 7 - 70 lb behemoth that has no modern day HDMI input. This thing would take analogue outs and the Oppo would have done the processing. However, with them going out of business, it's now become a "enthusiast" market- and you haven't seen the worst of it:
There are "audiophile" aftermarket mods of the player that are charging up to 3000 dollars just for the mods. It's insane.
LOL. Thanks for this. Btw has anyone hear been to a Dolby Cinema? HDR in that environment is comfortable to the eyes to me. Not eye-searingly bright or anything. And that's in a fully darkened environment.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but those laser projectors don't get as bright as home TVs.
Vudu does DV on my LG tv app and Apple tv, it does HDR10 on xbox one x.
I was able to watch TLJ in DV on the Sony thru the Vudu Google Play.
I did the same! My C7 was stunning but I couldn't get over that yellowish tint that the TV had and the vertical banding in dark scenes. Now my X930E has none of that. I do miss the perfect blacks but the amazing brightness HDR makes up for it. Combine this TV with bias lighting and the contrast pops almost like an OLED :)
Yellowish tint? It sounds like you tried reference settings but prefer blue whites.
It's a beautiful TV. I didn't notice any yellow tint or anything like that but something about the TV was giving me headaches. Like really bad headaches. I don't think it was brightness related.. actually I don't even know what it was I just know I had major discomfort watching the TV. This has never happened to me with any other display technology. My head feels a little better today but if it gets worse again with this new set then maybe I just need my head examined LOL. I do feel a little bit better today and that was after watching the new set last night in HDR and playing Horizon Zero Dawn (which looked amazing btw!). I will also say that regular cable/streaming looks better on the Sony. I subscribe to PSVUE and it looks much better on this set vs the OLED and I vastly prefer how the LED handles motion. It also has really decent sound. Like much better than I expected
The menu system is total shit though. Super laggy and slow
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It's so strange how people can perceive things differently. I have a Sony LED on the main floor and my LG OLED in the gaming area. I watch Youtube TV and PSVUE on both and they look equal to me in terms of motion... and I'm watching hockey a lot of the time. The only artifact I get is that the LG processing (very) occasionally displays 2 pucks for a second, like a slight trail.
Did you try the Sony OLED? I'm wondering if you just prefer the Sony processing, which is known to be superior.
I have the B7A as well,
Is it weird that I watch oled 100 and brightness at 40ish lol?
So some PC audio devices will encode real-time DD5.1/7.1 or DTS. But Windows has broken compatibility with a number of these chips. ASRock's onboard 5.1 compressed over TOSLINK does work. Asus's did not, though I haven't checked since the big spring Windows update.
Modern LCDs outperform plasmas in term of brightness and lit room performance by far, but for a dark room I still keep my Pioneer Kuro and prefer its picture to even the Z9D or 940E LCDs. YMMV of course.
Some OLED panels do have a tint or tinted spots. Mine had a warm spot but after compensation cycles it's resolved. I've seen photos of OLEDs that have irregularities that do not resolve themselves.
have you tried to watch Hockey or movie / non game content with the trumotion clear mode picked?
Ever since I stopped playing with deblur or dejudder and just left it on clear specifically, there are no trails or after effect artifacts anymore.
Guys, I'm torn between two TV's for my budget. Please can you give me some advice on what you think I should get?
Both TVs are the EU/UK versions so may have different model names in the US.
It's either a 49" Samsung MU6400 OR a 55" LG UJ635V. I actually ordered the Samsung but I've noticed some light bleeding in the panel (not too bad but it's there) but I've also discovered, more importantly to me, since ordering that the Samsung's HDR is 8 bit + FRC and that the LG is supposedly 10 bit HDR which is, I understand, the only HDR that a PS4/Pro will recognise/utilise?
The size difference between the two sets is not important to me, a 49" will look fine in our lounge.
Is it worth returning the Samsung for the LG (they're both the exact same price from the shop I'd be getting it from) for the difference in HDR or is the LG not really capable of producing a decent HDR image in any event, e.g. does it not have the brightness to really display the HDR in any event.
Thanks so much - buying a TV this time around has been SO confusing, SO different from 10 years ago.
Both TVs are the EU/UK versions so may have different model names in the US.
It's either a 49" Samsung MU6400 OR a 55" LG UJ635V. I actually ordered the Samsung but I've noticed some light bleeding in the panel (not too bad but it's there) but I've also discovered, more importantly to me, since ordering that the Samsung's HDR is 8 bit + FRC and that the LG is supposedly 10 bit HDR which is, I understand, the only HDR that a PS4/Pro will recognise/utilise?
The size difference between the two sets is not important to me, a 49" will look fine in our lounge.
Is it worth returning the Samsung for the LG (they're both the exact same price from the shop I'd be getting it from) for the difference in HDR or is the LG not really capable of producing a decent HDR image in any event, e.g. does it not have the brightness to really display the HDR in any event.
Thanks so much - buying a TV this time around has been SO confusing, SO different from 10 years ago.
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I guess it's weird, because it's crushing black like no tomorrow.
l think that you problem its that you are experimenting infinite contrast for the firts time and your eyes/brain etc had to adjust for this massive contrast.
people should now that oleds are DARK, and l dont mean brighness, l mean that in the grey scale oled can produce the perfect black that non other displays can produce, if you use other panels like led based monitors or tvs, you will get a hard time to get used to a oled.
your brain will go crazy looking for fine dark detail in a oled meanwhile they will be clear as a day in a normal LED tv
Rtings got their Q6FN review up.
Just as I suspected, it's a small bump up over the NU8000. Slightly better contrast, color gamut and brightness, but probably not worth the extra for most people.
The big news is this is the first review testing the Freesync abilities of the 2018 Samsungs when used with a Radeon card or Xbox One.
Pretty nice response times, down to 6.6ms with VRR at 1080P. That's going head to head with some pro-gaming monitors.
Just as I suspected, it's a small bump up over the NU8000. Slightly better contrast, color gamut and brightness, but probably not worth the extra for most people.
The big news is this is the first review testing the Freesync abilities of the 2018 Samsungs when used with a Radeon card or Xbox One.
Pretty nice response times, down to 6.6ms with VRR at 1080P. That's going head to head with some pro-gaming monitors.
I wonder what other ppl use under the oled spec.
i should probably turn it down to 70-80 out of 100
It's the brightness at 40 that is too low and thus crushes black.
Why not leave it at default?
adjust oled light whatever you like, brighness always on 50 or 51, more or less than that will fucked up the picture pretty badly.
OLED light is whatever, 100 is crazy bright, but whatever floats your boat. Brightness should be at 50 though, having it at 40 you are clipping out all near-black detail.
No, it actually sounds like that some OLEDs produce irregularities in tints of whites on the screen.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/2017-oled-yellow-red-tint.2119862/
agreed! I avoid the menu as much as I can LOL
it's a thing. On a full white screen, my C7 has a thick, faint yellow bar vertically down the middle of the screen. Don't really see it in normal content unless for some reason something goes to a full or near full white screen. The Destiny 2 boot up splash screen makes it fairly obvious.
thank you for your comments. I will change it back to 50 tonight.
Not weird maybe I'm just too sensitive. Except the brightness at 40 that's weird lol
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