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Xbox Wire: State of Decay 2 exceeds 2 million players in less than two weeks
- Thread starter Theorry
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Era has 38,000 members. If that's not 'a tiny fraction of the whole consumer base' then vidyagames are dead. This post is so needlessly overdramatic! Hahaha.
I am having fun with State of Decay 2. Myself and 2 friends purchased it, and another plays it via gamepass. The gamepass guy told me he would never have purchased it, but after playing it he loves it.
I was hoping for better base building / management, but I'll take what I can get. If they do a third game, I hope they greatly expand on that. I want to feel like I'm playing a better version of The Walking Dead.
Also, I'd love to see more zombies on screen at once. If I play with one or more of my friends the game is incredibly easy.
I was hoping for better base building / management, but I'll take what I can get. If they do a third game, I hope they greatly expand on that. I want to feel like I'm playing a better version of The Walking Dead.
Also, I'd love to see more zombies on screen at once. If I play with one or more of my friends the game is incredibly easy.
Here you go, anyone can do a free 14 day trial (if you haven't already done it.)
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/xbox-game-pass/cfq7ttc0k6l8?rtc=1
That is not entirely true. Microsoft has stated that Game Pass subscribers have been buying more games - even games that are not on Game Pass.
So Microsoft gets people into their ecosystem, trying out games and while they may miss a sale on one of their own games they are seeing increased sales of other games which further increases engagement on Xbox Live.
I haven't found myself liking State of Decay 2 as much as I hoped to. I played for about 5 hours then dropped off hard and went back to other games. But I've been listening with absolute love to Austin Walker talking about his SoD2 stories on the Waypoint podcast for the last few weeks and he's just an amazing story teller... I adore listening to him talk about the game. So, while I haven't found the love for the game myself, I've found a massive amount of joy from it in a roundabout way. Thank you Austin!
Can you be anymore obtuse and condescending ? You named just one site My guy try cherry picking harder next time.
Lmaooooooooooooooooooo
Okay this I could get because I bought a few because of Game Pass but all I was saying Microsoft can give us both PR viewpoints why does it have to be one or the other ?
For the record, the RIAA, Billboard, ERA (Entertainment Retailers Association) and other official tracking outlets denote every 150 streams of a song as the equivalent of a single sale (download or physical), and likewise, 1500 song streams or 10 song purchases are considered the equivalent of one album sale.
So yes, whilst music streaming numbers still count, officially they are given far less weight than direct sales counterparts, largely down to the differences in revenue equivalence.
Dude, the gaming industry is absolutely massive. There are literally hundreds of millions of people playing games.
Enthusiasts make up a very small fraction of that number.
This isn't a hard concept.
The average person who plays CoD, FIFA and Fortnite doesn't care about how much State of Decay sells. I doubt most people even know the game exists.
Not that one means the other doesn't matter but things have moved on since 2005.
I find the numbers here pretty meaningless without any context. I get that this is what game pass is supposed to do, so in that aspect its great. But its still very difficult to judge any success without seeing any long engagement on the games released so far on the service. Real success for the game would be, did people actually enjoy it, and did the devs make any money long term. Success for gamepass will be whatever expectations ms had for the service, and if they can keep people subscribed to the service, and people actually playing these games well after they came out.
Apples to oranges, really. A more apt comparison would be Netflix or Hulu.
The music streaming services pay the label per stream, whereas wth Netflix and Game Pass, the content is licensed at a set cost for a period of time, with the latter also offering the ability to upsell via DLC.
Awesome! Thanks! Thought I had to buy a new xBox to get it
Where has Microsoft said this? Can you link to the source? I did search for the PR on this but was unable to find it via Googling.
I personally find it difficult to believe that Game Pass is adding more new retail sales than it is detracting from them (eg someone simply plays State of Decay 2 on GP for a cheap monthly sub fee instead of buying it, thus one less sale).
It was Mat Piscatella of NPD that suggested this was the case, not Microsoft.
Edit: although...
news.xbox.com/en-us/2018/06/01/xbox-game-pass-one-year-anniversary/#i7oeJLDA3iDL3ViP.99
Exactly, but if the numbers count "run game once and didn't like it", I cannot say that it adds as retention, right?
you're right, i was with the wrong mindset for the value when i comented, I still don't think the game was supposed to be so successful if it wasnt for the gamepass, but people payed for that, so there is value on that. i'm sorry.
Just look up gamepass in the store and you'll find the trial. You can't use the trial more than once since it's tied to your account though.
User Banned (1 Week): Platform warring, trolling. History of provocative and inflammatory posts.
Last Gen You couldn't go anywhere on the internet Or Mp games without Xbox fans telling you how bad they where beating the PS3 and this was even perpetuated by Microsoft executives and PR.
But now sales units and revenue are irrelevant because Xbox is losing now ?
I never said units sold or revenue were irrelevant.
I said the average consumer doesn't care.
I'm not entirely sure what increased sales for games in Game Pass actually means. Perhaps they're referring to sales of DLC or microtransaction or something, which makes sense, though they could be translating each game download within GP as a sale too. As per many Microsoft press releases of late, things aren't particularly clear cut or direct.
Also, I've read Matt's comments on the matter. They were more theorised and not really conclusive at all, just his personal take based on the sales results of a single title (SoT). It's especially inconclusive when Game Pass is still new and adoption rates are still at the early stages, and given Sea of Thieves was a new IP.
In truth, we don't actually know if Sea of Thieves would have sold better at retail with or without Game Pass. It's all just theorising and predictions at present, but as more and more sales results of newer titles come in, especially of sequels, we'll have a better barometer to go by.
Wait, your attitude in this thread and others is because you are still mad about people behaving like idiots last gen?
Nope. But I don't know how anyone can keep doing it over and over. That said the first time I signed up for Gamepass, I got an offer to double the time if I turned autopay on. Now I just have to remember to turn it off...
Yes. They will be the same free trials activated for Sea of Thieves.
No
As someone who bought an X , game pass , State of Decay 2 , sea of thieves and PUBG
I'm tired of PR fuckery
I only responded with the music streaming titbit because that is the one the player referenced, not because I thought it was more apt.
On a side note, is it confirmed that is how Microsoft is approaching Game Pass on the publisher side? Eg they're paying an up front pre-negotiated licensing fee for a product to be in their GP library for a set period of time, as oppose to royalties or a fee to the publisher for each download/set playtime of a GP title whilst it's in their catalogue?
You are so right. Whenever I googled Xbox 360 or PS3 I was fumbled with ads telling me how PS3 is selling terribly and has no games and Sony is going bankrupt.
You are on full hyperbole here in case you have not realised. ERA and GAF are in no way a representation of the gaming community let alone the industry. Besides I would be willing to bet more than half of this userbase does not give a shit about sales.
Microsoft is going the route of games as a service and reporting rentals/gamepass for PR. Sales and rentals are entirely different things in the real world
My apologies, my comment wasn't meant for Xbox gamers in specific. SoD2 is an Xbox exclusive, but this happens for other games on other platforms as well. In my opinion, I don't think it's a good idea to support devs that release broken or unfinished games, no matter what platform.
And no, I'm not getting tired of expressing my opinion. If you don't like my opinion, feel free to hide my posts so they don't bother you :)
I kept gp because of how soon it was coming after sea of thieves which was a complete and utter waste of time. I'm curious what the numbers played a week or two after release is tho? And I beat SoD2 which I really enjoyed but I don't really see the point To keep playing. ESP with an AP rifle and heavy ammo press. Got bored quicker on my 2nd play through and drove around the map shooting plague hearts in like 2 shots.and the game has like nothing to really buy, with no big content update in the near future that I can see. I mean I'd rather buy SoD2 in the future if they add some cool stuff but I don't think I'm gonna stay sub if I'm not playing it anymore with zero exclusives to play in the near future. On PC the selection isn't very great. And I doubt people will stay subbed just because while trying to make GP sound like some kind of long term success. It's nowhere near the sustainability and users of Netflix.
It is kind of funny to see console warriors (ostensibly people who play games) push back against a corporation talking about how many people are actually playing their games rather than sales data. We are in the upside down for sure.
So basically 'lazy devs'. I'm sure the guys and girls at Undead Labs worked their ass off to get the game out the door by release day (a date I am also sure that Microsoft, not them, set in stone.)
.. You called out Xbox fans directly in your post and this isn't the first time you've done that. Anway I'm just glad the mods have taken notice. So pls feel free to continue your rants in every Xbox/MS thread :)
The guy has said worse. Just go through some windows store threads or sea of thieves threads. He talks like he has never played a game with any bugs or the sort.
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I am going to be very curious at this years Forza numbers and the next Halo Gears, whichever is next.
If i can make more money off of people trying my game and buying from my ecosystem. Why would I not report that?
Were saying player count doesn't matter in a world where publishers make more money off of continued transactions that initial purchase you guys are being ridiculous.
Didn't Rare or Microsoft come out and say it hit a million sold? Looks like it was a combination of factors that the number comes from.
over 2 million players:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...est-selling-new-ip-of-the-xbox-one-generation
Super Data info:
https://mp1st.com/news/sea-of-thieves-player-count-totaled-2-million-in-first-month
So the second article sources Super Data, so i am not sure which one isn't good at math. However if SoT had OVER 2 million players but more than half were gamepass, that still leaves the Million sold mark available. You said it didn't sell that many, what is your source it did not?
Yeah, that poster is the most volatile mix of cringe and aggression. Not worth engaging with them.
