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Microsoft has acquired GitHub for 7.5 billion dollars
- Thread starter RastaMentality
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Cristiano Ronaldo was supposed to be "expensive" when Real Madrid bought it by a 100 grand. In retrospective, it was a bargain. My guess is that in the long term MS can offer a variety of Azure based service tightly integrated to Github, and that could be a gold mine if MS explotes that correctly. Time will tell.
what is this analysis, you act as if they didnt just pass google in market cap.
here's another good tweet i just saw
Lots.
Many people waiting to see how Linus Torvalds responds, too, considering the Linux kernel repo is hosted on GitHub.
Linus will be fine, as he is fine with the huge MS contribution to the kernel.
I think this is great and further signs that MS is a legitimately different company under Sanya.
Keep in mind the former President and current EVP of Apache has been at ms for years
Keep in mind the former President and current EVP of Apache has been at ms for years
The sleazy self-promotion of GitLab that runs rampant on places like HN really bothers me, and it's only gotten worse with this buyout of GitHub.
To those considering making a jump, why not see how things play out first? Your IP is safer with Github than elsewhere.
To those considering making a jump, why not see how things play out first? Your IP is safer with Github than elsewhere.
7.5 billion...crazy.
Despite the tweet above, I don't consider Microsoft to have a good record of supporting things.
However if you look at Azure, Visual Studio, Powershell, Linux subsystem etc, then I'm cautiously optimistic, and hopefully it'll work out well.
Despite the tweet above, I don't consider Microsoft to have a good record of supporting things.
However if you look at Azure, Visual Studio, Powershell, Linux subsystem etc, then I'm cautiously optimistic, and hopefully it'll work out well.
I mean, they started a making a push towards being a services company like 3-4 years ago. Of course it has helped the stock price a lot.
I don't think the gains were primarily driven by Windows 10, though, which ties in with what I was saying. The desktop has been in decline market share wise, and I think Microsoft is trying to decrease their reliance on Windows. This is a good thing for the company, as more and more development is happening for mobile platforms, that they don't have a strong foothold on.
edit: Don't get me wrong, Windows is still a juggernaut. But another 10 years down the line, it might not be. MS is covering all bases to prepare for when they might not have majority OS share. And technically if you count mobile, Android is now the biggest OS.
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That's just a mirror. Development occurs at kernel.org. I imagine the same is true for all larger Linux projects. They host their own repos. They wouldn't be hosting them on a proprietary service.
The Linux kernel on GitHub is a mirror of the actual repository which is hosted on https://git.kernel.org/
risky move for MS, GitHub wasn't even profitable – https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ding-a-coder-s-paradise-it-s-not-coming-cheap
Plus after this news many developers will migrate to GitLab and BitBucket.
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It could be worse though, imaging if it was bought by Google or FB and they change git log to non-chronological timeline :)
Plus after this news many developers will migrate to GitLab and BitBucket.
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It could be worse though, imaging if it was bought by Google or FB and they change git log to non-chronological timeline :)
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I think MS is going to add a ton of useful functionality. VS Code has made huge inroads (all my MS hating eng at Adobe use it religiously and this last system upgrade I didn't even bother with installing sublime)
MS is not the same company it was in the 90s. They are forward looking and not looking to EEE stuff that scares them. Internally, they have an internal-open-source model on most projects that allows people to commit if they an idea.
They want to be Windows, Devices, and Switzerland of the clouds.
GitHub =/= git.
Just because they bought GitHub that doesn't mean they have any control on git.
It'd be a nice move if Microsoft said, "Hey folks, unlimited free private repos!" with this announcement.
Otherwise, most developers will be skeptical of it or hostile to it.
That said, I'm not really worried about it. I've been really impressed with two recent projects out of Microsoft, VS Code and Linux Subsystem for Windows (which I was originally not impressed by, but I am today, I take back anything bad I said about it). I think there was a story a year or two ago about how Microsoft had become the #1 contributor to open source software on Github, which was... pretty shocking at the time, just... given where they've come as a company. I mean, Microsoft was the most anti-open source software company there was for a generation.
I don't think that the other user was suggesting they'd add functionality to git, but rather, exclusively, to github...
Otherwise, most developers will be skeptical of it or hostile to it.
That said, I'm not really worried about it. I've been really impressed with two recent projects out of Microsoft, VS Code and Linux Subsystem for Windows (which I was originally not impressed by, but I am today, I take back anything bad I said about it). I think there was a story a year or two ago about how Microsoft had become the #1 contributor to open source software on Github, which was... pretty shocking at the time, just... given where they've come as a company. I mean, Microsoft was the most anti-open source software company there was for a generation.
I don't think that the other user was suggesting they'd add functionality to git, but rather, exclusively, to github...
Only people who are clinging onto their old ideas of who Microsoft used to be. Anyone paying attention to their moves over the last 3-4 years will think it's fine.
You can still have your VSTS repo's pointing to Github :)
Skype is still a pile of shit which tries to force internet explorer and bing during every update.
Windows still doesn't let me easily turn off the collection of personal data.
Microsoft still kill off perfectly good products and services every time they change their agenda
How have they changed (in action)?
Calling github a startup is a bit disingenuous. And by "a bit" I mean "incredibly"
I'm honestly not sure how well explanations make sense for people who don't code or understand what version control is. It's basically an online repository for code, with a GUI built ontop of a popular version control software called git. It just makes viewing, sharing and manipulating code easier and more collaborative
here is the point . -------------> and here is you
then why are people all up in arms about MS buying it?
Because it's the most popular one, and people don't like when someone else plays with your toys.
Would rather not get even more invested in a microsoft product. Plus I've already been on the edge since GitHub isn't actually open source whereas to my knowledge gitlabs is. I mostly just use GitHub since it's what my teachers prefer it school.
Can anyone clarify on the legal/proprietary ramifications of MS acquiring GitHub? It's not like Microsoft now 'owns' any of the code on GitHub, but a lot of people seem to think that's the case. I don't see how this changes much, other than maybe a price hike for their services.
Regarding Skype, AFAIK it doesn't force anything. It's a MS product suggesting other MS products. How is that surprising to anyone?
I'm on Win10 Pro, in Diagnostics and Feedback I see options to choose between basic (device info, capabilities, and performance) vs full (basic plus a lot more). It also lets you delete everything MS has collected.
On topic, and most relevant to your concern, Microsoft acquired LinkedIn and have left it to operate independently like they're saying they'll do with GitHub.
Under Nadella, MS has been contributing to and supporting open source.
In 2015 they partnered with Red Hat to offer RHEL on Azure.
In 2016...
More here: https://open.microsoft.com/
This GitHub acquisition is yet another move to try to get back in a good spot with developers. I think they know they have a lot to prove and if they're not careful then any goodwill they've built over the last few years will evaporate in an instant.
Nokia and Skype were purchased under previous leadership who is now gone. Neither really made sense to what microsoft was doing at the time.
LinkedIn and GitHub fit much more in line with the current Microsoft approach
Microsoft already offers free private (non-commercial) repos on Visual Code Team Services, I hope they bring that to Github too.
I think they're probably more likely to get rid of the free functionality of VCTS, and pivot fully towards enterprise users instead of trying to lure people away from GitHub.
GitLab isn't really open source, not entirely at any rate.
And anyone who's planning to switch to GitLab because they don't like that GitHub is now owned by a huge corporation should also probably be aware that GitLab isn't perfect in that regard either. They recently got $20 million in funding from GV, the venture capital investment arm of Alphabet (Google). Before that, they also got investment from Alibaba and IBM. It's an insignificant number compared to this buyout, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they also got bought out at one point in the future since large companies have clearly shown interest in it.
I am not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it works like this:
No, Microsoft does not own any of the code. In general, if you post the code on GitHub (or anywhere else really) you still retain all the rights to it unless you specify otherwise, like by publishing it under a license or accepting some terms of service (so with GitHub you technically give away some rights, since GitHub's terms of service require you to allow others to view and fork your repository, but that's pretty minor). This means that code on GitHub is actually not necessarily open source, and more importantly, that GitHub doesn't have rights to any of it. The fact that it's hosted on their site doesn't change that.This site explains the legal situation of code posted without a license. If you post the code with a license (which pretty much everyone does), then that license applies to everyone, including GitHub (and now Microsoft).
People mostly seem worried that MS will run GitHub into the ground, or are simply opposed to MS on principle and don't want to use a service they own.
Makes sense, it does seem the preferable alrernaltive at the moment. Do you know of a truly open source git platform?
This is definitely the new Microsoft in action. Linux support, cloud first, supporting open-source platforms then buying GitHub etc etc..
Ok, and? This is applicable to any company
I don't understand why it's such a problem for them to be bought by Microsoft. Either GitHub continues to lose money and goes under, or they get bought by a company who is focusing on developers again and looking towards cloud/SaaS solutions and can grow.
GitHub already "consolidated" the market for opensource projects
Wikipedia lists a couple of them (the ones that say free software), but none of them really seem appealing to me (and I didn't check if all of them support git, but they probably do). Then again, I also don't particularly care about it in this case (open source is great, but not really something I'd factor in when deciding which website to use for hosting my code on) so maybe you'll find something that you like.
I would guess we'll see the opposite; MS will announce free private repos for GitHub. GitHub will then become an advertising vehicle for Visual Studio Online and it's other pay services.
Losing 20 million a quarter for the mindshare of GitHub is pocket change to MS; if it gets people into their Visual Studio ecosystem they stand to make a lot more than any losses they could incur on what GitHub does.
