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Soj

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Oct 27, 2017
10,685
I can't believe I'm saying this but Emilia Clarke ended up being better here and better cast than Donald Glover was.

Glover IMO basically just tried to do an impersonation of Billy Dee the whole time. Alden was fantastic, and Emilia for the first time since the very early days of GoT actually put in a performance.

I can no longer joke that she can't act because the scene where she first reunites with Han clearly proves that she can.
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
42,659
You just choose to ignore the negative impressions.

I thought it was by far the worst Star Wars movie and I will never watch it again
You think that just because you believe that that the reception for the movie has been mixed? Every movie has people who hate it, some more than others, it doesn't mean that the reception has been mixed.
 

Hydrus

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Oct 27, 2017
4,298
Just read that this movie has just barely grossed over 100M. Yikes!! They should've dropped this at the end of the year. 5 months after TLJ was just a really dumb idea.
 

Iceternal

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Oct 28, 2017
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You think that just because you believe that that the reception for the movie has been mixed? Every movie has people who hate it, some more than others, it doesn't mean that the reception has been mixed.
I've definitely seen more than just a few people say they didn't like it. It's not « extremely positive ».

You liked it so you just focus on the good impressions .
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
42,659
I've definitely seen more than just a few people say they didn't like it. It's not « extremely positive ».

You liked it so you just focus on the good impressions .
I dunno, when the movie first came out i was browsing the mega threads for the film on multiple subreddits, here and Twitter and i was surprised by how positive the reception was and I'm not even the first to comment on that in this very thread. By all accounts this is a really positive thread and it's not much different than other websites.

Maybe you just hate it so much you want to believe the reception has been mixed?
 

carlsojo

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Oct 28, 2017
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For what it's worth I looked up the Anthony Ingruber guy that I've never heard of and saw his Han Solo impression on Youtube. Looked like some random youtuber doing an impression of new Solo doing an impression of Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. Hilariously awful.
 

True Prophecy

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Oct 28, 2017
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I really enjoyed the movie and I was of the mindset that it was going to be terrible, I'm really glad it turned out great and sad that we won't get anything more from it now.

"I don't know if he means 'family' or 'tribe.'"

"What's the difference?"

who wrote this schlock

Lawrence Kasdan was one of the main writers and the man that wanted to have this movie made, he wrote Empire, Jedi and Force Awakens.
 

Chumley

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Oct 26, 2017
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For what it's worth I looked up the Anthony Ingruber guy that I've never heard of and saw his Han Solo impression on Youtube. Looked like some random youtuber doing an impression of new Solo doing an impression of Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. Hilariously awful.

Pretty much.
 

Visanideth

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Oct 31, 2017
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I've definitely seen more than just a few people say they didn't like it. It's not « extremely positive ».

You liked it so you just focus on the good impressions .


Honestly the consensus seems more positive about Solo than it was about TLJ. TLJ was a bloodbath.



(It also would make sense that the non-superfans and the radical superfans that have been disappointed by TLJ aren't negatively commenting on Solo because they haven't seen it).
 

DeathyBoy

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Oct 29, 2017
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Honestly the consensus seems more positive about Solo than it was about TLJ. TLJ was a bloodbath.



(It also would make sense that the non-superfans and the radical superfans that have been disappointed by TLJ aren't negatively commenting on Solo because they haven't seen it).

That's true here. But that says more about Era than anything. Mainly that for all Era's talk of change in Star Wars, they're happier with a generic film that's not controversial in the slightest and takes no chances. The mainstream, however, does not want that. They don't want middling, dull, stuff like Solo and have voted accordingly with their wallets.
 

Bonejack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Man, kinda feel sorry for the movie, it's actually real fun ... and that despite the whole situation around the movie and the (imo) iffy marketing which made me a bit wary for it.

I hope that, for future releases, they go "back" to holiday releases, it's the "new" Star Wars month and that they have a bit more time between movies. Also, i hope that Lucasfilms keeps Ehrenreich and Glover for Han and Lando, they nailed their characters.
 

Cycas

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Oct 27, 2017
322
Saw it last night, really enjoyed it, thought it was good for what it was (back story of sorts). Shame they probably won't do the whole jabba saga as a film now as there's a much better story to tell there (hoping though). Wonder what Disney had in mind for a final WW gross, 750-800m? Will be lucky to pull 500m now which I read somewhere was the break-even mark.

In hindsight, Disney released this one too close to TLJ but I suppose they're still finding their feet with this whole cinematic universe thing in SW. IX really needs to knock it out of the park to get the average fan back on board.
 

Visanideth

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Oct 31, 2017
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That's true here. But that says more about Era than anything. Mainly that for all Era's talk of change in Star Wars, they're happier with a generic film that's not controversial in the slightest and takes no chances. The mainstream, however, does not want that. They don't want middling, dull, stuff like Solo and have voted accordingly with their wallets.

Undoubtely. But I also fear that, as dull and depressing as it may sound, I think TLJ did damage the enthusiasm around the franchise.

I pass for an harsh critic of the film here but I'm quite likely the person I know in real life who liked it the most. Everyone I know who saw TLJ (which is fundamentally everyone I know under the age of 50) ranges from indifference to hatred - fans, nonfans, hardcores. I've actually not seen Solo yet because we can't seem to persuade enough people to come (or to get them to persuade girlfriends/etc to come) and the amount of "I'm never going to see a SW movie again after that one" we're getting is crazy.

I don't want to extrapolate from anedoctal experience but it's seriously hard not to when you literally can't fin ANYONE who genuinely liked the movie among dozens and dozens of people.
 

The Mad Mango

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think with IX they just need to blow the SW universe wide open. Most of the OT favorite characters are dead anyway (I'm assuming Leia will die offscreen early in IX). A OT-style finale is just going to be too familiar, and another subversion of the OT isn't interesting twice, much as I enjoyed TLJ. If TFA was the OT throwback, and TLJ was the farewell to the OT, than the final movie should be completely new. I don't need to see a stormtrooper, tie fighter, or x-wing ever again. Just make a plot point that everyone upgraded their gear; it's a little shoehorned but I'd be cool with it.

While the prequels were poorly written and directed, they delivered a lot of great new tech, fashion, and other world-building elements. I miss that wealth of imagination that used to be a defining trait of Star Wars even during its lows.
 

Surfinn

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Oct 25, 2017
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For what it's worth I looked up the Anthony Ingruber guy that I've never heard of and saw his Han Solo impression on Youtube. Looked like some random youtuber doing an impression of new Solo doing an impression of Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. Hilariously awful.
Lol I have no idea why people think that guy would have been good in a professional movie
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I saw Solo with the family. We went in there with relatively low/modest expectations.

All of us were pleasantly surprised and enjoyed the film. I personally enjoyed it way more than Rogue One and Last Jedi. The pacing was just a lot better and felt like a more coherent story.

I agree with others, this movie came out waaay too close to Last Jedi. I wasn't going to see Solo, but we were going to see Avengers instead but we figured the Avengers Blu-Ray will probably be out in 4-5 weeks, so we went with Solo. The trailers for Solo were pretty bad and I think a large chunk of movie audiences are starting to get Star Wars fatigue. There's been like 4 movies in just a little over 2 years and the last one just 5 months ago. Disney is going to run the series into the ground at this pace.

I also agree that for all the flaws with the prequels (and there were many), they did introduce a lot of new worlds, new tech, and no species. It expanded the Star Wars universe. Disney has done 4 Star Wars movies and they've barely pushed the boundaries of the Star Wars universe. I think the nostalgia is starting wear out for a lot of people and Disney needs to start breaking new ground, otherwise their main movies are going to start seeing big revenue declines as well.

That said, Solo was a very solid movie and even worthy of its own sequel. I think strong word of mouth will probably help the sequel if they can get their release windows right.
 

Red

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Oct 26, 2017
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That's true here. But that says more about Era than anything. Mainly that for all Era's talk of change in Star Wars, they're happier with a generic film that's not controversial in the slightest and takes no chances. The mainstream, however, does not want that. They don't want middling, dull, stuff like Solo and have voted accordingly with their wallets.
Yup.
 

Aexact

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Oct 30, 2017
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It was a pleasant experience. I'm pleased at how they played up Han's improvisions, some of the cute fanservice nods, and the Bennet was the type of trust/do not trust charismatic rogue that's easy to like that I figure people wanted DJ to be like.

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Uh. But I'd say more of the fanservice nods were more on the nose rather than delightful (Han's last name, outright explaining Chewie's nickname, etc.).

The L3 character was just awkward if we don't think of droids as Alexa/Siri equivalents. With all the modern movies about robot sentience from The Matrix to Iron Giant to I, Robot to Ex Machina to Blade Runner, you'd think that if an AI had the sentience to ask for rights, then that is fair and good. Treating it like a joke like with L3 (cringeworthy full name btw) is just weird. Are droids space toasters or are they not.
 

Lady Murasaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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I watched it last week, the theater was 80% empty. Never saw a blockbuster in a room so empty like that, not even weird artsy stuff like Mother. I was resistant [against my will] in seeing anybody other than Ford as Han Solo, but... I liked him! I couldn't unsee Ford, but with a little of faith, I was convinced he was a good young Han.

I really liked the humor in many scenes, and really liked the whole Qi'ra and Crimson Dawn plot. Liked Bettany a lot too, and also Beckett. And Glover was a perfect cast for Lando. On the other hand, Thandie was completely wasted and I didn't like it.

However, for the first time in my life, I slept at a theater, during the sequence where Han pilots through the storms. Not out of hate or anything, I think my brain just didn't feel like it mattered more than a quick nap. While in Rogue One (my favorite ever) I was worried and feeling the pain of the characters at every second, here I couldn't feel it no matter how bad I tried. It felt like I always knew that nothing was at risk (obviously it has to do with knowing beforehand that Han doesn't die OF COURSE, but not only that). Enfys Nest felt like out of a not so good YA movie (she was inspired in Arya apparently, so that explains a bit).

I ended the film wishing we could see more of Qi'ra, and overall not so disappointed. Just felt a little forgettable and rushed. I wish that being about who it is, this movie was made more harmoniously, maybe it could be even more fun, but it was an ok, fun, popcorn type of movie.
 

Rivenblade

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Nov 1, 2017
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Some of the dialogue was really funny in this movie. (totally paraphrasing...)

When Beckett tells Lando he's going to take his cut from 25% to 20% for helping to get the Falcon out of impoundment. Lando: "I don't like it. I disagree with it. But I accept it."

And probably my favourite was during the Kessel Run. Han: "Here's something I learned from my friend ___, the best pilot in _____...until he crashed...and died...doing this..."

Loved the delivery of both of these. And the scene of Lando taking off with the Falcon after Han saying 30 guys were going to surround the marauders was probably the most laugh-out-loud moment of the entire movie. Great timing.
 

CesareNorrez

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Oct 25, 2017
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For what it's worth I looked up the Anthony Ingruber guy that I've never heard of and saw his Han Solo impression on Youtube. Looked like some random youtuber doing an impression of new Solo doing an impression of Harrison Ford playing Han Solo. Hilariously awful.

A YouTuber, without a gigantic Hollywood studio supporting him, did a poor impression? Shocking.

The guy is now a legit actor. He played a young Harrison Ford in Age of Adaline. He would have been fine in Solo. There was a great support system surrounding Alden. Would've been there for whoever took the role.

Alden was fine though. No complaints from me. The movie proved, more than anything, Han Solo could be played by anyone and it's not a big deal.
 

Elandyll

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Oct 25, 2017
8,805
Saw it this w-e with the family and we all had a good time, it was fun and well acted (better than I was expecting, specially from the lead and Clarke, after what I had been reading. Harrelson is always great of course).
Thought it was a mile better than TLJ too, which says a lot from a movie that was essentially unneeded and basically a side distraction.
 

ghostemoji

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Oct 27, 2017
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Maybe they should have made his robot legs more obvious if it left you confused. Guy gets chopped in half, disappears for a while, shows up again with robot legs. I think it's fairly self explanatory even without the cartoon stuff. Dude got himself a new pair of legs, said "fuck all that noise" and went into business for himself.

Did they show his whole body? I thought they only showed him chest up.

I was pretty confused when I saw it. I think it's cool because Darth Maul is like one of the few things about the prequels that I remember liking. I just spent a long time on the drive back to my apartment trying to do the mental math to make the timelines lineup before filling myself in on all the cartoon stuff.

I hope this movie wasn't too much of a flop. I'd like to see some of Darth Maul's escapades on the big screen.
 

Border

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Oct 25, 2017
14,859
Undoubtely. But I also fear that, as dull and depressing as it may sound, I think TLJ did damage the enthusiasm around the franchise.
3 awful prequels couldn't damage enthusiasm around the franchise — I certainly doubt TLJ could.

Lucasfilm took a turkey of a movie with a dull premise and released it during a very busy season amidst rumors of a poor/troubled production.
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
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3 awful prequels couldn't damage enthusiasm around the franchise — I certainly doubt TLJ could.

Lucasfilm took a turkey of a movie with a dull premise and released it during a very busy season amidst rumors of a poor/troubled production.
People overestimate the impact of TLJ imo

No one gave a shit about Solo to begin with it's not part of the main series or important it doesn't have Harrison Ford and doesn't have a hook like Rogue one or any of the marketing and hype plus competing with DP2 and Fucking Thanos

Plus getting ok reviews

It probably did but I don't think never had much of a chance
 

pedrothelion

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Oct 28, 2017
193
I think Solo was an experiment in release window of sorts. I think Lucasfilms ultimate goal is/was to have at least 2 movie every year (I heard this rumor on now this is podcasting a while ago). They wanted to see how Star Wars would do in the summer and how it would do when released so quickly after a mainline movie. They have 9 movies (Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, Rian Johnson's trilogy and Beinoff and Weiss's trilogy) in some stages of development. There is no way they were planning to release one a year.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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People overestimate the impact of TLJ imo

No one gave a shit about Solo to begin with it's not part of the main series or important it doesn't have Harrison Ford and doesn't have a hook like Rogue one or any of the marketing and hype plus competing with DP2 and Fucking Thanos

Plus getting ok reviews

It probably did but I don't think never had much of a chance

The anti-TLJ narrative being peddled by certain segments of the fanbase is unbelievable but not surprising. Lots of confirmation bias going on. I think the bottom line is no one really wanted this movie. Who asked for a Han Solo origin story? This movie was a miscalculation from the start.
 

0ptimusPayne

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Oct 27, 2017
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Saw it this weekend with my lady in a pretty much empty IMAX morning show. Went in thinking it was going to be absolute trash but I def enjoyed myself even more than I did during my TLJ viewings. One thing the movie gets right is the pacing, didn't realize 2.5 hours or so went by. It doesn't add anything to the overall universe, but its a fun movie and the Darth Maul cameo was extra lit.
 

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I think the bottom line is no one really wanted this movie. Who asked for a Han Solo origin story? This movie was a miscalculation from the start.

So if you liked The Last Jedi you won't like Solo, but if you didn't like The Last Jedi you'll like Solo...?

Huh. Fits in line with what someone said earlier about how it doesn't take risks so they didn't like it, as if a Star Wars movie just being a Star Wars movie is a bad thing.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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So if you liked The Last Jedi you won't like Solo, but if you didn't like The Last Jedi you'll like Solo...?

Huh. Fits in line with what someone said earlier about how it doesn't take risks so they didn't like it, as if a Star Wars movie just being a Star Wars movie is a bad thing.

Where did I say that? I said the general public wasn't interested in a movie telling Han's backstory. Has nothing to do with whether you liked TLJ or not. There just wasn't a broad interest in this movie period
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
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So if you liked The Last Jedi you won't like Solo, but if you didn't like The Last Jedi you'll like Solo...?

Huh. Fits in line with what someone said earlier about how it doesn't take risks so they didn't like it, as if a Star Wars movie just being a Star Wars movie is a bad thing.
How did you get that from his comment at all

He's saying that there wasn't any interest from the public nothing about the actual quality or whether the people watching will like it
 

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Depends on what you define as being a 'star wars movie'. To me Star Wars and Empire (the goods ones) are good because they took risks. I don't like them because they are called star wars

Empire I'll grant you, but A New Hope didn't take any risks. It was literally a fairy tale in space. You had the farmboy and the old knight and the princess imprisoned in the castle and the dashing rogue she falls for and the black knight the hero has to defeat.

That's one of the main reasons it's so successful, because it is itself the same story we've been telling each other for a thousand years.

Is Maul even a Sith anymore?

Nope. He stopped being a Sith the moment Dooku became Palpatine's new apprentice. He's just Maul throughout The Clone Wars, although he clearly has aspirations to overthrow Palpatine and become a Sith Lord again along with Savage. By the time of Rebels, though, he seems to have totally given up on that and just wants to make Palpatine and Obi-Wan suffer and die.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Saw it on Friday

I enjoyed it a lot, I thought Alden was going to make a Harrison Ford impression but I was pleasantly surprised. Not sure why people shit too much on him, he is a good actor.

The only part that I did think they pulled it from their rear was that he casually knew how to 'speak Wookie'. Come on.
 

pedrothelion

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Oct 28, 2017
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I can't believe that producers weren't aware of that this was going to be Lord and Miller's shooting style beforehand. Surely this would have been disused before they were hired? Also, improv on a movie set (especially a big budget, plot heavy movie like this Solo) is a recipe for disaster. Do that shit in rehearsals.
 

carlsojo

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Oct 28, 2017
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I felt like 80 percent of the humor missed, mostly due to poor delivery and timing, though it could have just been my audience. (Theater was about 80 percent full.)

All of the droid's lines landed like crazy though. I'm curious about her origins like if she was always a part of the film or added later on.