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Judge

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Oct 25, 2017
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So Groups were announced on the 9th and said to be rolling out to all Alpha ring members in "the next few days". It's now 2 weeks later and I still don't have them...what gives?
 

Steelyuhas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,164
Any indication on the public release?
The build Alpha members got yesterday was labeled a June build, so the answer is always sometime in June "when it's ready". Unclear if Groups are locked into the June release though, as they originally made their way to some Alpha users in May builds, but they went back and made some changes to them.
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Thanks for posting, I actually hadn't seen how they look in the guide yet.
So Groups were announced on the 9th and said to be rolling out to all Alpha ring members in "the next few days". It's now 2 weeks later and I still don't have them...what gives?
They halted the rollout and made some changes to them based on feedback. See yesterday's patch notes in this thread for a few changes they made.
 

Edge

A King's Landing
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,012
Celle, Germany
So Groups were announced on the 9th and said to be rolling out to all Alpha ring members in "the next few days". It's now 2 weeks later and I still don't have them...what gives?

I still don't have the Game Pass, Gold & EA Access categories, despite even normal, not preview user having them for a long time now. The whole system doesn't make sense, don't think about it.
 

ElNino

Member
Nov 6, 2017
3,705
I still don't have the Game Pass, Gold & EA Access categories, despite even normal, not preview user having them for a long time now. The whole system doesn't make sense, don't think about it.
Non-preview users have them? I have three systems in the Preview program and none have those categories (only the Subscriptions category).
 

Steelyuhas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,164
All alpha users should have groups as of the 6pm pacific time build today. First reaction: why the consolidation of Games & Apps and Groups/Pins in the guide? Doesn't seem like that streamlining was necessary and it creates an extra button press to get to Games & Apps. My pins were killed as well, which I assume is a bug right now and not the intended final user experience? I would assume your Pins would become your first Group by default.
 

Railgun

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,148
Australia
All alpha users should have groups as of the 6pm pacific time build today. First reaction: why the consolidation of Games & Apps and Groups/Pins in the guide? Doesn't seem like that streamlining was necessary and it creates an extra button press to get to Games & Apps. My pins were killed as well, which I assume is a bug right now and not the intended final user experience? I would assume your Pins would become your first Group by default.
Yeah I'm not a fan of the new consolidation either. Would have preferred the pins button just be released with groups.
 

Lukas Taves

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
5,713
Brazil
Holy shit. The groups feature is so awesome. Coupled with the customization of the main page makes it very very very very awesome :P

There are a couple of bugs, which I'm reporting, and I also don't link unifying the games and apps with the groups button, but it's already incredible. I really like that you can go crazy with how many pins a group can have.

Oh, and please add feedback to allow us to pin store content. If Ms don't want to give me a wishlist feature I'll make mine lol
 

Steelyuhas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,164
While I don't like that unification of the two buttons in the guide, I did quickly make a couple groups for the games in my rotation and the media apps I typically use, and it is a pretty slick experience.
 

Johnohno

Hero of Bowerstone
Member
Nov 6, 2017
207
Add me to the camp of not understanding why they didn't rename Pins in the guide to Groups and instead making it an extra click to get to all your stuff.

Also why didn't it auto make a new group called Pins instead of deleting my old one :(
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Update from last night:

New Preview Alpha 1806 System Update – 5/24/18


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Starting at 6:00 p.m. PDT today, members of the Xbox One Preview Alpha Ring will begin receiving the latest Xbox One system update (1806.180521-1920). Read on for more about the features, fixes and known issues in the latest 1806 system update.

NEW FEATURE FEEDBACK:


Updates for Groups based on Xbox Insider feedback:
We're enabling Groups for the rest of Preview Alpha tonight! You'll want to take the new system update once available and then start trying out Groups if you have not had access to the feature before. There's also the existing Quest for Preview Alpha to give the team invaluable feedback on your experience using Groups.

How to find the Groups of games and apps feature:



    • [Guide] If you were looking for the Pins button in Guide, instead click on the "My games & apps" button – we've combined Groups/Pins with "My games & apps" to put all your stuff in one convenient location for quick access!
    • [My games & apps] If you go into "My games & apps" you will see a new tab on the left for your "Groups" – Pins will be your first Group and you can create more from there
    • [Home] If you go to Home you will still have access to your Pins block and can add other Groups to Home after you create them
    • Note: You may need to sign in/out again if you are not seeing Groups in "My games & apps" or your Pins block loading as expected after your first sign-in. If you do not see your Pins as the first Group, go to "My games & apps" > Groups and choose to reset your local Groups data

Fixes:


Guide



    • Fixed an issue where some users were not seeing the currently active title in the list of Recently used games & apps.
Groups



    • Fixed an issue where the "Add more" or "Create a group" page for Groups would not show all installed content when filtering
    • Fixed some issues related to editing Groups not properly being reflected across multiple consoles that all have Groups enabled
Mixer Broadcasting



    • Fixed an issue in which some users were experiencing issues with USB webcams while broadcasting.
    • Fixed an issue where some users would not see the broadcast overlay or appear as broadcasting in the Guide.
System Performance



    • Misc. performance fixes in the platform.

Known Issues:


Groups



    • A few users are still experiencing the blank names for Groups. Workaround: You may need to rename these Groups if the local reset did not clear up the issue for you.
    • The Groups tab My games & apps may not show after sign in even though you can access Groups in Guide. Workaround: Sign in / out to refresh these pages.
    • You may see "This group does not exist" on Home on first sign-in for your existing Groups. Workaround: Sign in / out to refresh these pages.
    • Some changes might not be reflected when editing Groups between multiple consoles after coming out of connected standby. Sign in/out to fix.
    • Titles hidden from Ready to install will show up as an item you can add through the "Add more" or "Create a group" page
    • Choosing "Add to Home" for a game within a group will not add the block to Home
    • You may see issues roaming between a GA console and preview 1806 console. Workaround: Choose to reset your Groups locally to resync from the service.
    • Resetting Groups – local re-sync or reset everywhere: We've updated the reset button at the bottom of the Groups page in "My games & apps" so now you can delete your local Groups data and re-sync with the service. This will clear up a lot of issues that may have occurred due to bad states or if data is not showing up as expected. You can still delete from everywhere if you want a fresh start with Groups.
      • You may need to sign in / out for the pages to refresh afterwards.
      • Note: If you are still seeing issues after performing a local reset and/or sign in/out, please make sure to file a bug so the team can investigate
Profile Color



    • Sometimes users may encounter an incorrect Profile color when powering on the console.
Networking



    • Work continues on the stability of the Wi-Fi connectivity. If you see any issues please report the problems for investigation.
YouTube



    • Some users are encountering an issue where their YouTube account is being signed out whenever they launch the app.
      • Workaround: Uninstall/re-install the app and sign in with your account again.
 

nihilence

nøthing but silence
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Oct 25, 2017
15,903
From 'quake area to big OH.
I can still see my pins on the mobile app.

Half the groups I made are gone after a restart.

The strange thing is my wife profile still has her pins as a group.
 
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Theorry

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Oct 27, 2017
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Microsoft previously announced a few months ago that the Xbox Rewards program would merge with Microsoft Rewards, and today we're seeing the first fruits of that labor. Indeed, the company has just announced that an app for Microsoft Rewards is now available for Preview Alpha Xbox Insiders on Xbox One.

The app will be the home for joining Microsoft Rewards and finding or redeeming "exclusive offers just for Xbox fans". Of course, it also can be used to redeem points for Microsoft Store gift cards, and check up on how many points are available for searching on Bing and buying products in the store.

Preview Alpha Insiders can try out the Microsoft Rewards app today on Xbox by opening the Xbox Insider Hub and clicking through to the "Insider Content" page. Not everyone will be seeing it right away, and Microsoft says it will be rolling the app out to more Xbox Insiders in the coming weeks.

For now, this app is only available for Insiders in the United States and Canada. Microsoft plans to roll it out to additional Microsoft Rewards markets soon.
 

Dokkaebi G0SU

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Nov 2, 2017
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has anyone had issues with HDR pass through after recent updates? As in hdr worked prior to updates with all connected devices (AVR/TV) but now the xbox cannot pick up the hdr anymore?
 

Edge

A King's Landing
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,012
Celle, Germany
Is this console mocking me now???

I STILL don't have the Gamepass, EA & Gold categories but instead I have the new group category and the "games" category appears TWICE now.

What is this shit? Why can't they just release a firmware with new features and everyone has them, like Sony, is that so hard?
First and third category are absolutely the same, how can I fix this shit?

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Also I can't delete every pin, the avatar pin can't get deleted for some reason. It's annoying.
 
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JaggedSac

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,988
Burbs of Atlanta
Is this console mocking me now???

I STILL don't have the Gamepass, EA & Gold categories but instead I have the new group category and the "games" category appears TWICE now.

What is this shit? Why can't they just release a firmware with new features and everyone has them, like Sony, is that so hard?
First and third category are absolutely the same, how can I fix this shit?

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Also I can't delete every pin, the avatar pin can't get deleted for some reason. It's annoying.

That happened to me as well.
 

SpartyCrunch

Xbox
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,496
Seattle, WA
Is this console mocking me now???

I STILL don't have the Gamepass, EA & Gold categories but instead I have the new group category and the "games" category appears TWICE now.

What is this shit? Why can't they just release a firmware with new features and everyone has them, like Sony, is that so hard?
First and third category are absolutely the same, how can I fix this shit?
Well yes, it is hard, and you can imagine how bad it would be if the bugs you're seeing here went out to tens of millions of customers.

Since you are a part of the preview program, I assume that you have held the home button and reported feedback for each of these issues? Because if you're complaining about problems like this but you haven't reported these issues, why did you even opt-in to the preview program in the first place?
 

Edge

A King's Landing
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,012
Celle, Germany
Well yes, it is hard, and you can imagine how bad it would be if the bugs you're seeing here went out to tens of millions of customers.

Since you are a part of the preview program, I assume that you have held the home button and reported feedback for each of these issues? Because if you're complaining about problems like this but you haven't reported these issues, why did you even opt-in to the preview program in the first place?

Sure I report them on the console but the problem here is that the GamePass/Gold/EA categories aren't preview only features anymore for a long time now (I heard that from several people without preview program) and while many normal users have them, I still have not, after how many months now, 3? 4? and that's just super awkward.
Plus the new, pretty ridiculous, problem just adds to it.
 
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Well yes, it is hard, and you can imagine how bad it would be if the bugs you're seeing here went out to tens of millions of customers.

Since you are a part of the preview program, I assume that you have held the home button and reported feedback for each of these issues? Because if you're complaining about problems like this but you haven't reported these issues, why did you even opt-in to the preview program in the first place?
I'm not here to hate on the program, though I also don't have the tabs for gold/game pass/EA Access after months of that being in retail builds in the beta.
 

B3N1

Member
Oct 27, 2017
109
Sure I report them on the console but the problem here is that the GamePass/Gold/EA categories aren't preview only features anymore for a long time now (I heard that from several people without preview program) and while many normal users have them, I still have not, after how many months now, 3? 4? and that's just super awkward.
Plus the new, pretty ridiculous, problem just adds to it.

Aren't you looking for the Memberships/Mitgliedschaften item in the sidebar? Like the one Gowan shot a few posts above?
 
Nov 6, 2017
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What happened to avatars?
Coming eventually... maybe...
If I remember correctly then there was at least one quest / survey regarding avatars for insiders. But I don't know any more what that was about.

Edge Did you try resetting your System? (You can do that in the options without loosing installed games.)


Edit: Anybody else having the problem that all the installed games are listed in the 'ready to install' section?
 
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SpartyCrunch

Xbox
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,496
Seattle, WA
If you think you are missing a feature that you are supposed to have - features released to the public at this point, not just available to Insiders - that's a good complaint to bring to Xbox Support and also continue filing feedback with the Insider program.

It could be that your Insider / preview build membership is screwing with variables which don't affect retail users, for example a service-side configuration made for your account because you're in preview builds.
 

Dokkaebi G0SU

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Nov 2, 2017
5,922
yeah, im in beta and i hope they send a quick hotfix for this soon.

the person just made a group for his gwg right? not an actual list that will be made by ms?
 

DJ Lushious

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Oct 27, 2017
3,330
That doesn't makes it better.
You say that as if it's somehow worse. The very nature of being in the Update Preview Program is to help Microsoft in identifying these bugs in Alpha/Beta software, so that they will not be there for final release. I am having such a hard time understanding your logic and why your demeanor is one of "this is bullshit."
 

Watership

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Oct 27, 2017
3,116
Come on. Complaining about bugs while using an opt-in alpha preview program? I can see you saying "Yikes, look at this new bug" but saying "Get your shit together" comes off as clueless.
 

Calverz

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,586
One of the reasons i came out if preview program. Sick of shit not working. And constant updates to download. Just wasnt worth it. Im pretty happy with current features of the console now.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh shit. As someone who treats Microsoft rewards like a religion, that new app makes me tempted to jump back into the preview program. I told myself I didn't want to do it on my One X, but free money is free money.