I, too, forgive murder for unrelated clumsiness.Pokémon was so serious back then:
*posts epic Red image with glowing red eyes*
How it really was:
I, too, forgive murder for unrelated clumsiness.Pokémon was so serious back then:
*posts epic Red image with glowing red eyes*
How it really was:
Then why not just say Giovanni and not the grunts? The grunts can't be taken seriously at all. One ghost in the poke tower doesn't all of the sudden make them like john wick style villains.
we were kids playing a kids game, now we are grown men and women judging a kids game O.oPokémon was so serious back then:
*posts epic Red image with glowing red eyes*
How it really was:
I really dislike that all critisms of these games are being g hand waved away with there's another game comingnext year
yea its a waste to me....ill eat crow if the majority of people in here are not going to be posting on the OT of release countdowning to midnight to download excitedly. lol
Yeah, Disney movies are pretty damn serious because the villain imply they will murder characters.
I played every mainline Pokémon game and never even touched Go. Seems easy to me to ignore a game I don't see the appeal and that has limited content in comparison to other entries.yea its a waste to me....ill eat crow if the majority of people in here are not going to be posting on the OT of release countdowning to midnight to download excitedly. lol
Sun and Moon are more comparable in that sense as they're fully 3D.Sure.
You're right, it sure as hell doesn't. We had on PS2 J-RPG with a bigger scale.
Sun and Moon are more comparable in that sense as they're fully 3D.
I don't see how it matter though, because Let's Go is obviously not positioned as the next big Pokémon game. It feels kinda pointless to criticize it for this reason.
And it still 60 bucksSun and Moon are more comparable in that sense as they're fully 3D.
I don't see how it matter though, because Let's Go is obviously not positioned as the next big Pokémon game. It feels kinda pointless to criticize it for this reason.
Who is calling them John Wick villains? Gen 1 was the most grounded/dark game of them all. That's it. Some cherry picked goofy antics that should be in a Pokemon game don't change that.Then why not just say Giovanni and not the grunts? The grunts can't be taken seriously at all. One ghost in the poke tower doesn't all of the sudden make them like john wick style villains.
Naw I'm good with criticism its just annoying when people are complaining for the sake of complaining.
Let's Go is for a broad audience and there's nothing wrong with that.
Yea, I would say Lusamine in SM overall had the most mature villain story. Gets corrupted and loses the plot of just being a good mom to her kids. And that doesn't have to do with wanting to detroy everything or be a "badass" mafia.Yeah, Disney movies are pretty damn serious because the villain imply they will murder characters.
Pretty much every Pokémon game has implications like this and feels immature to pretend they're serious because of it. "Cyrus wanted to kill eveyone in the Universe", "Lysandre wanted to commit mass murder", etc. You can have all that and I doubt people would deny these games are kid friendly and goofy - and that's not a bad thing!
I played every mainline Pokémon game and never even touched Go. Seems easy to me to ignore a game I don't see the appeal and that has limited content in comparison to other entries.
Are you going to criticize Super Mario 3D World for not being like Odyssey? Because that's what you're doing with this Pokémon title.
Then why not just say Giovanni and not the grunts? The grunts can't be taken seriously at all. One ghost in the poke tower doesn't all of the sudden make them like john wick style villains.
"Ghosts appeared in Pokemon Tower. I think they're the spirits of Pokemon that the Rockets killed."Yeah, Disney movies are pretty damn serious because the villain imply they will murder characters.
Pretty much every Pokémon game has implications like this and feels immature to pretend they're serious because of it. "Cyrus wanted to kill eveyone in the Universe", "Lysandre wanted to commit mass murder", etc. You can have all that and I doubt people would deny these games are kid friendly and goofy - and that's not a bad thing!
Sun and Moon are more comparable in that sense as they're fully 3D.
I don't see how it matter though, because Let's Go is obviously not positioned as the next big Pokémon game. It feels kinda pointless to criticize it for this reason.
Most grounded and dark....yea, okay.Who is calling them John Wick villains? Gen 1 was the most grounded/dark game of them all. That's it. Some cherry picked goofy antics that should be in a Pokemon game don't change that.
This entire thread makes me feel embarrassed to be part of the gaming community. When people speak of toxic attitudes, this thread is a prime example. Over a Pokemon game. Over a a game being made to complement the upcoming Gen 8 core game next year. To bridge a gap for newer players and kids. Sometimes I wonder if some people here actually enjoy playing video games, because it just seems to be nothing but misery. Not just this thread, but I think this is the one that finally broke the camel's back for me.
So people who like the familiar pokemon will buy this game, then they will drop the series once more for another 20 years till they can get their next remake of Kanto?
Chasing fair-weather fans isn't really fair to the dedicated fans.
You don't know anything about this game to say it's rushed. Artistic and design choices don't make it rushed.So it should get a pass for being rushed just because it isn't a main game?
I surely hope it doesn't cost the price of 'a main game' then...
true. i see where the battling wild pokemon comes from, but later during the games i avoided grass and use super repel. i only did wild battles when its a pokemon i wanted. i think once the game is out ppl might be ok with it later. i mean thats one thing they are changing, the biggest and only concern for me would be how online plays out.I'm excited to play this game, but the fact that a game that's supposed to be a bridge and energy to new players is changing so much in regards to catching Pokemon is worrying and seems short sighted. If a player gets into this game wouldn't seeing Gen 8 coming next year alienate them with how traditional it is compared to this.
Just having wild Pokemon battles plus the Pokemon Go catching would appease both crowds. Even sticking with the Orginal 151 seems weird, as any players who are still playing go would surely be at least somewhat family with Pokemon from Gen 2 and 3.
Isn't it going to be a hard jump going from 151 to almost 1000 though?Some will churn of course just like they did decades ago but a portion will stay and some of them will convert to the core series.
And what's not fair? The core RPG is in development as we speak.
You don't know anything about this game to say it's rushed. Artistic and design choices don't make it rushed.
The criticism remains valid though.
Yeah, too bad the improvements aren't about the bigger part: The geometry and the world design.
"All the enhancements" as you want to call them is basically slightly better textures (even then, the 3DS Pokémon problem is that the textures aren't filtered) and despite that, the textures are fairly simple... if not blurry. As for the lighting and shadows, this is the only decent work done here. Who knew decent lighting could make wonders ?
This entire thread makes me feel embarrassed to be part of the gaming community. When people speak of toxic attitudes, this thread is a prime example. Over a Pokemon game. Over a a game being made to complement the upcoming Gen 8 core game next year. To bridge a gap for newer players and kids. Sometimes I wonder if some people here actually enjoy playing video games, because it just seems to be nothing but misery. Not just this thread, but I think this is the one that finally broke the camel's back for me.
reminds me how dumb this game was when it comes to sectioning off stuff. you can see everything but there's two separate areas for some reason. they couldn't make it one whole areaAre you going to criticize Super Mario 3D World for not being like Odyssey? Because that's what you're doing with this Pokémon title.
The evolution of this style that you're looking for is coming next year:
Reminder to everyone once again that Pokemon is one of largest media franchises on the planet.Not sharing your enthusiasm isn't "toxicity". It's called criticism. Yes, it's fair to criticize Gamefreak for delivering a Kanto remake/reboot which looks visually bad and retains the level design of a 1997 Gameboy RPG.
the bottom one has so much life......look at how long he stares into his pokemon soul.
So it should get a pass for being rushed just because it isn't a main game?
I surely hope it doesn't cost the price of 'a main game' then...
I always picture this whenever people talk about how badass red is in gen 1, even though it's just fanboying of what it actually was.
Well that was a hardware limitation. Except the little gates with the grass in Hau'oli, I don't know what's up with those.reminds me how dumb this game was when it comes to sectioning off stuff. you can see everything but there's two separate areas for some reason. they couldn't make it one whole area
Geometry wise, PS2 games far eclipsed what was shown of LG in terms of geometry in towns.Its not the biggest upgrade but it sure as hell doesn't look like a PS2 game.
Go back and look at what PS2 games looked like, because a lot of games have not aged well.
Reminder to everyone once again that Pokemon is one of largest media franchises on the planet.
I like how this conveniently ignores Lusamine and team aether.
Are you implying that that's more grounded? lmaoooooI like how this conveniently ignores Lusamine and team aether.
the story of how over time she became more and more obsessed with studying everything about ultra beasts, and started treating her kids worse and worse.Are you implying that that's more grounded? lmaooooo
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I wouldn't call it that at all. there are plenty of games on the 3DS that did what Pokemon struggled to do. Game Freak were simply inexperienced in making games of this style.Well that was a hardware limitation. Except the little gates with the grass in Hau'oli, I don't know what's up with those.
Not sharing your enthusiasm isn't "toxicity". It's called criticism. Yes, it's fair to criticize Gamefreak for delivering a Kanto remake/reboot which looks visually bad and retains the level design of a 1997 Gameboy RPG.
Reminder to everyone once again that Pokemon is one of largest media franchises on the planet.
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Nah, but you see, this isn't more mature because it isn't "realistic". Even though this is a series about catching elemental monsters and realism shouldn't matter.the story of how over time she became more and more obsessed with studying everything about ultra beasts, and started treating her kids worse and worse.
Full stop. There is criticism, and then there is some of the nonsense in this thread. Nonsense that I can tell you right now that many who enjoy the hobby but are not members of this forum are already specifically pointing to this thread to point that out.
As for visually, I think it looks great. You don't, and that is perfectly fine. But there is, again, criticism and then a good deal of what is happening in this thread.