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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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He uses overblown settings. Also he spams under youtube vids, mocks other creators, insults viewers and is very unprofessional in general. He is one of the worst people on YT.
As you should.
Banding is a pain in the ass, once you see it you cannot unsee it (at least I can't) and you actively look for it.
It drives me crazy on my 32inch monitor and I got the thing for free...
Yeah that's what made me a bit wary when I first stumbled across his channel. Still, I don't mind some pop to my image, so I'm curious to see how this looks. I had used RTings settings when I played God of War and something kinda felt off, which is how I wound up with my own wonky settings.
Yup. Our 75" 940d Sony we have in the living room has clouding, but it does not appear in content and I am fine with it. It does look bad when loading a disk/movie and stuff, but once content starts playing I do not see it. Banding however, especially if you see it easily is just an eyesore and to your point..once you see it you don't ever not see it.
Yeah dude's a complete condescending tool.
If you're gonna use his settings, might as well just put your TV in vivid mode and save yourself some time.
I have a pair of Sony's PS4 wireless USB headphones. Is there a way to get them to work on my LG OLED? I tried plugging the nub into the TV's USB port but it didn't seem to recognize them.
Anyone who has been to this thread in the past 4 or 5 months will most certainly get it. It's kinda depressing everytime he chimes in but hey, there are fanboys all over. The fact is the 930e is a fantastic set and if jb1981 is letdown by the brightness then the 930e will most certainly be a good substitute.
Considering how well the edge lit local dimming works I'm surprised Sony hasn't continued advancing the tech. Maybe they hit a wall with how well it works?
I was able to see the second one, the other wouldn't load for me. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the channel. Are you able to check it on another TV? Because there is breakup around those subtitles as well, so it could certainly be low bitrate/compression etc.
I haven't had too much problems with gradients even on anime which also of course has lots of large swaths of color, but my set (and my older X850C) has Sony's smooth gradient function so it may not be directly comparable. I can get stuff like that occasionally on worse sources like watching older files of older cartoons though.
No crashing here, but I have experienced the slowness if I try to rush into the menus right after turning it on and the picture shows up, where it can take a few extra seconds to respond at first and bring up the action menu until it settles in. Probably the kind of inconsistent slowness that people tend to complain about with Android TV without disabling some of those settings which I've never done so far.
Though I also often use my 4K blu-ray player for playing files from a hard drive, and only sometimes hook it directly to the TV, especially if they have surround so that it can go straight to my receiver.
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You're doing it right. People turn up the oled light way too high for nighttime viewing. It actually takes away from the depth of the i,age when viewing SDR content. SDR content is mastered at 100 nits.
Nothing wrong with a 930e, all these TV's have good use cases, but the facts are clear, LCD needs ambient or bias lights, and thrive in brighter rooms, whereas OLED's are the opposite.
To add, the Q9FN is one of two FALD's that can go as perceivably black as an OLED, I had the other one, but Vincent points out the exact same flaws as I had experienced, so you're essentially sacrificing HDR impact, and shadow detail, for those blacks, and it was too much for me, still an impressive feat that Panasonic cracked 2 years ago.
Can't help the facts, I'd also say it's pretty depressing when you chime in too, as I can't think of one single time, you've actually said anything useful, at least I know what I'm talking about, and contribute.
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I've tried using settings like those found on Rtings but I find that lowering the OLED light makes the image too dull for my tastes.
I just bought a 49" Samsung MU6400. Had a bunch of vouchers so got it for £230. This is my first tv upgrade in 8 years and, whilst we couldn't afford to go for the more expensive sets, I'm hoping this will be good value for money.
Read a few reports of backlight bleed on the 49" model but hopefully I'll be lucky...
Read a few reports of backlight bleed on the 49" model but hopefully I'll be lucky...
I have a Samsung KS7500 (the curved 49" version of the set I think is pretty popular around these parts), but after just over two years and a few recent trips to the local electronics store, I'm starting to flutter my eyelashes at those LG OLEDs pretty severely.
That said, the KS7500 is certainly an excellent TV and I wondered if anyone would be able to point towards whether the B7 would be a worthwhile upgrade. I can get it for only £100 more than I paid for the KS7500 back in 2016 (sister gets a staff discount, making it about £1200), and am hoping to cash-in around £450 for my current set if I go ahead with getting a new one.
That said, the KS7500 is certainly an excellent TV and I wondered if anyone would be able to point towards whether the B7 would be a worthwhile upgrade. I can get it for only £100 more than I paid for the KS7500 back in 2016 (sister gets a staff discount, making it about £1200), and am hoping to cash-in around £450 for my current set if I go ahead with getting a new one.
Hi folks!
I'm in dire need of some advice regarding a TV purchase. It's pretty urgent as i'm thinking of jumping on a deal which is time limited and the stock is running low, so i'd appreciate any timely advice and pointers. I'm going a bit deeper about my situation in the following paragraphs, but i'll add a TL,DR at the end for anyone that doesn't care to read my whole post. Thanks either way!
I've been in the market for a new TV for a while now and i've been holding off waiting for prices to come down, as well as having difficulties deciding on a specific model/manufacturer. I'm looking for a decent mid-range set around 49"-55". I'm using my TV for gaming and watching films/shows on blu-ray, with a 50/50 split. I have a couple of 4K blu-ray combo packs, but don't have a 4K player yet and will probably wait until Playstation 5 comes out. I'd also have to upgrade my AVR for that, which is why i'm currently not too keen on, since my current one is still serving me well. I still want to get a 4K set though, as i'm getting fed up with my current TV for various reasons outlined further below and getting a 1080p set at this point seems like a waste.
I realize OLEDs are the best thing in terms of image quality right now, but i'm very wary of possible burn in. I got kids in the house who will occasionally turn on the TV and forget to turn it off again. I'm also an avid gamer and i don't want to have to babysit the TV all the time, worrying about damaging the screen for good. Due to that, i'd be willing to settle for a decent LED TV with good overall IQ, solid blacks via local dimming and reasonably low input lag for gaming purposes. Viewing angle is also a (minor) concern for me. As far as i can tell, LEDs have inherently bad viewing angles (around 17% and less). What i'm mostly concerned about is how noticeable the drop in black levels would be for people sitting on each end of a 2 meter wide couch, 3.5 meters away from the screen. I have visitors every other weekend and i'd hate for the people sitting on either end to have a significantly worse visual experience than the person sitting in the middle. I do know that OLEDs have great viewing angles, but my aforementioned gaming habits make me too wary of owning one.
I should note that i'm from central Europe, buying a TV from Amazon isn't an option for me and Black Friday deals are pitiful where i'm from, so i'll have to make do with local retailers. I can't really afford to spend on a top range TV, so i'm looking at a decent set around 50" for up to 1300 €, if that's possible. Honestly though, even that amount i'm a bit hesitant to pay after my experience with the last set i bought in the same price bracket, which admittedly was 8 years ago. It was a 47" LG SL8000, original price at the time was 1500 € (reduced to 1200 € when i bought it), but that didn't keep it from developing a bunch of issues over the years. Screen uniformity was passable at best in the first place, but it only got worse with time, to the point where there's a bunch of dark horizontal lines on the edges of the screen now, and the dirty screen effect in the middle of the screen is very obvious during pans on lighter backgrounds. Thankfully these issues aren't noticeable all the time, but when they are, they really take me out of it. In addition to that, It also developed a buzzing noise that can get quite annoying in dark scenes at low volumes. Long story short, what seemed like a pretty decent TV for gaming and movies (although, the black levels were admittedly mediocre) at the time and not too cheap, didn't hold up at all over time and it made me cautious of spending too much money on my next TV.
However, looking at reviews on Rtings.com over the last few months made me realize that a TV for sub 1000 € probably isn't going to cut it in regards to overall image quality, decent black levels etc., so i'm back in that price bracket of let's say up to 1300 €. Now, over the last few months i was looking at the Sony 49XE900 (or X900E for US folks), which got reduced from 1500 € to 1200 € at a local retailer recently, in order to make way for the new models coming in. Sadly it was sold out while i was waiting on reviews for the XF900, to see whether that got any major improvements, which in the end it didn't seem to. After that i figured i would have to wait until the XF will get a price drop from 1500 €, but it could take until next spring for that to happen, especially since Black Friday deals aren't really a big thing here, and i'm not sure i can stomach the issues with my current TV for another full year.
Now another opportunity presents itself, the local retailer where i intended to buy the 49XE900 at has a promotion in time for the football world cup and still has some 55XE900, which they have now dropped to 1300 €, plus a random discount coupon between 10% - 50% off the price at purchase. Needless to say, a 50% discount would be an absolute steal and i wouldn't hesitate for a second to grab the set at that price, but obviously the bigger % coupons would be in very short supply. So for now let's just assume i'd draw a 10% off coupon and therefore get the 55XE900 at 1170 €. That sounds like a pretty good deal still, but after reading a bit more i'm now questioning whether i should maybe hold off for a while longer and get something more future proof, as i intend to keep my next set for at least 5-6 years. The thing is, from what i've seen of the specs, the XF doesn't seem to have massive improvements over the XE (for example, it has slightly better peak brightness for HDR, but on the other hand the viewing angle somehow got even worse compared to its predecessor), and i'm pretty sure even in a year the 49XF900 would still cost more than the 55XE900 does now. Even on Rtings.com they say the differences aren't big enough to warrant spending much more on the XF compared to the XE.
What gives me slight pause though is the XE's HDR capabilities. Now, i understand that it won't measure up to an OLED and the XF has slightly better peak brightness and what not, but most noteable seems to be that the XE only supports HDR10, whereas the XF will supposedly get patched in the future to support Dolby Vision. Obviously DV seems significantly stronger in terms of pure specs (even though the Rtings comparison between the XE and the XF is playing the differences down), but is that even something to worry about with mid-range LED sets like these? Would it be worth the price and size difference considering my budget, or would i need a good OLED set to fully appreciate the gap between HDR10 and Dolby Vision?
TL,DR:
- I'm in the market for a new TV after 8 years, Amazon and Black Friday deals aren't viable options for me, i have to stick to local retailers and hope for rare price drops,
- the set would be used for gaming and 1080p blu-rays (50/50 split), 4K UHD use definitely planned in the future, but not for another 2 years or so, i plan to keep the TV for at least 5-6 years,
- my budget is up to 1300 € for a 49"-55" LED TV with good IQ and decent black levels via local dimming, wary of getting an OLED due to gaming and unsupervised kids using the set at times,
- a local retailer has currently a good deal on a Sony 55XE900 (X900E in the US), it's 1300 €, plus a % off the price coupon (10% - 50%) on top of that, drawn at the counter during checkout, but it's time limited and stock is low, so time is of the essence,
- 55XE930 is too pricey at 1900 €, 49" model sold out.
- the brand new XF900 models most likely won't reach comparably low prices here until next spring, if at all before they're sold out for good,
- XF900 doesn't seem like a major improvement over the XE900 overall, but will get patched for Dolby Vision, whereas XE only supports HDR10,
- XF900 has an even lower viewing angle than the XE900 before black levels degrade significantly. I occasionally have guests sitting on each end of a 2m wide couch, 3.5m away from the screen and don't want them to have a terrible viewing experiences.
- is it worth sticking it out for up to another year to have Dolby Vision support, or would HDR10 vs. Dolby Vision not be as big of a factor in this LED price range, compared to higher range OLEDs?
- any other reasons why i should consider getting/not getting the 55XE900 at this price?
- any other models/manufacturers in this size and bang for your buck range that strike a good ballance between gaming and blu-ray playbackthat i should look out forand are easily available (no TCL presence here)?
Alternatively, the store also reduced the price of the LG OLED55B7V to 1400 €, with the aforementioned 10 - 50 % off coupon on top of that. That seems like a damn good deal as well, but as i said, i'm too paranoid about burn in since i'm playing console games a lot, as well as having kids use the TV and i don't want to berate them all of the time about how they have to use it.
Thanks for any advice!
I'm in dire need of some advice regarding a TV purchase. It's pretty urgent as i'm thinking of jumping on a deal which is time limited and the stock is running low, so i'd appreciate any timely advice and pointers. I'm going a bit deeper about my situation in the following paragraphs, but i'll add a TL,DR at the end for anyone that doesn't care to read my whole post. Thanks either way!
I've been in the market for a new TV for a while now and i've been holding off waiting for prices to come down, as well as having difficulties deciding on a specific model/manufacturer. I'm looking for a decent mid-range set around 49"-55". I'm using my TV for gaming and watching films/shows on blu-ray, with a 50/50 split. I have a couple of 4K blu-ray combo packs, but don't have a 4K player yet and will probably wait until Playstation 5 comes out. I'd also have to upgrade my AVR for that, which is why i'm currently not too keen on, since my current one is still serving me well. I still want to get a 4K set though, as i'm getting fed up with my current TV for various reasons outlined further below and getting a 1080p set at this point seems like a waste.
I realize OLEDs are the best thing in terms of image quality right now, but i'm very wary of possible burn in. I got kids in the house who will occasionally turn on the TV and forget to turn it off again. I'm also an avid gamer and i don't want to have to babysit the TV all the time, worrying about damaging the screen for good. Due to that, i'd be willing to settle for a decent LED TV with good overall IQ, solid blacks via local dimming and reasonably low input lag for gaming purposes. Viewing angle is also a (minor) concern for me. As far as i can tell, LEDs have inherently bad viewing angles (around 17% and less). What i'm mostly concerned about is how noticeable the drop in black levels would be for people sitting on each end of a 2 meter wide couch, 3.5 meters away from the screen. I have visitors every other weekend and i'd hate for the people sitting on either end to have a significantly worse visual experience than the person sitting in the middle. I do know that OLEDs have great viewing angles, but my aforementioned gaming habits make me too wary of owning one.
I should note that i'm from central Europe, buying a TV from Amazon isn't an option for me and Black Friday deals are pitiful where i'm from, so i'll have to make do with local retailers. I can't really afford to spend on a top range TV, so i'm looking at a decent set around 50" for up to 1300 €, if that's possible. Honestly though, even that amount i'm a bit hesitant to pay after my experience with the last set i bought in the same price bracket, which admittedly was 8 years ago. It was a 47" LG SL8000, original price at the time was 1500 € (reduced to 1200 € when i bought it), but that didn't keep it from developing a bunch of issues over the years. Screen uniformity was passable at best in the first place, but it only got worse with time, to the point where there's a bunch of dark horizontal lines on the edges of the screen now, and the dirty screen effect in the middle of the screen is very obvious during pans on lighter backgrounds. Thankfully these issues aren't noticeable all the time, but when they are, they really take me out of it. In addition to that, It also developed a buzzing noise that can get quite annoying in dark scenes at low volumes. Long story short, what seemed like a pretty decent TV for gaming and movies (although, the black levels were admittedly mediocre) at the time and not too cheap, didn't hold up at all over time and it made me cautious of spending too much money on my next TV.
However, looking at reviews on Rtings.com over the last few months made me realize that a TV for sub 1000 € probably isn't going to cut it in regards to overall image quality, decent black levels etc., so i'm back in that price bracket of let's say up to 1300 €. Now, over the last few months i was looking at the Sony 49XE900 (or X900E for US folks), which got reduced from 1500 € to 1200 € at a local retailer recently, in order to make way for the new models coming in. Sadly it was sold out while i was waiting on reviews for the XF900, to see whether that got any major improvements, which in the end it didn't seem to. After that i figured i would have to wait until the XF will get a price drop from 1500 €, but it could take until next spring for that to happen, especially since Black Friday deals aren't really a big thing here, and i'm not sure i can stomach the issues with my current TV for another full year.
Now another opportunity presents itself, the local retailer where i intended to buy the 49XE900 at has a promotion in time for the football world cup and still has some 55XE900, which they have now dropped to 1300 €, plus a random discount coupon between 10% - 50% off the price at purchase. Needless to say, a 50% discount would be an absolute steal and i wouldn't hesitate for a second to grab the set at that price, but obviously the bigger % coupons would be in very short supply. So for now let's just assume i'd draw a 10% off coupon and therefore get the 55XE900 at 1170 €. That sounds like a pretty good deal still, but after reading a bit more i'm now questioning whether i should maybe hold off for a while longer and get something more future proof, as i intend to keep my next set for at least 5-6 years. The thing is, from what i've seen of the specs, the XF doesn't seem to have massive improvements over the XE (for example, it has slightly better peak brightness for HDR, but on the other hand the viewing angle somehow got even worse compared to its predecessor), and i'm pretty sure even in a year the 49XF900 would still cost more than the 55XE900 does now. Even on Rtings.com they say the differences aren't big enough to warrant spending much more on the XF compared to the XE.
What gives me slight pause though is the XE's HDR capabilities. Now, i understand that it won't measure up to an OLED and the XF has slightly better peak brightness and what not, but most noteable seems to be that the XE only supports HDR10, whereas the XF will supposedly get patched in the future to support Dolby Vision. Obviously DV seems significantly stronger in terms of pure specs (even though the Rtings comparison between the XE and the XF is playing the differences down), but is that even something to worry about with mid-range LED sets like these? Would it be worth the price and size difference considering my budget, or would i need a good OLED set to fully appreciate the gap between HDR10 and Dolby Vision?
TL,DR:
- I'm in the market for a new TV after 8 years, Amazon and Black Friday deals aren't viable options for me, i have to stick to local retailers and hope for rare price drops,
- the set would be used for gaming and 1080p blu-rays (50/50 split), 4K UHD use definitely planned in the future, but not for another 2 years or so, i plan to keep the TV for at least 5-6 years,
- my budget is up to 1300 € for a 49"-55" LED TV with good IQ and decent black levels via local dimming, wary of getting an OLED due to gaming and unsupervised kids using the set at times,
- a local retailer has currently a good deal on a Sony 55XE900 (X900E in the US), it's 1300 €, plus a % off the price coupon (10% - 50%) on top of that, drawn at the counter during checkout, but it's time limited and stock is low, so time is of the essence,
- 55XE930 is too pricey at 1900 €, 49" model sold out.
- the brand new XF900 models most likely won't reach comparably low prices here until next spring, if at all before they're sold out for good,
- XF900 doesn't seem like a major improvement over the XE900 overall, but will get patched for Dolby Vision, whereas XE only supports HDR10,
- XF900 has an even lower viewing angle than the XE900 before black levels degrade significantly. I occasionally have guests sitting on each end of a 2m wide couch, 3.5m away from the screen and don't want them to have a terrible viewing experiences.
- is it worth sticking it out for up to another year to have Dolby Vision support, or would HDR10 vs. Dolby Vision not be as big of a factor in this LED price range, compared to higher range OLEDs?
- any other reasons why i should consider getting/not getting the 55XE900 at this price?
- any other models/manufacturers in this size and bang for your buck range that strike a good ballance between gaming and blu-ray playbackthat i should look out forand are easily available (no TCL presence here)?
Alternatively, the store also reduced the price of the LG OLED55B7V to 1400 €, with the aforementioned 10 - 50 % off coupon on top of that. That seems like a damn good deal as well, but as i said, i'm too paranoid about burn in since i'm playing console games a lot, as well as having kids use the TV and i don't want to berate them all of the time about how they have to use it.
Thanks for any advice!
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Picked up the X900E last night and I really like it. I definitely need to find some settings that I like but so far the picture is pretty great. Gears of War 4 looks ridiculous.
The 49inch has an IPS panel (40/55 and maybe 65inch are all VA), hence the worse black uniformity.
That guy is a moron. Some of the worse info on that I have ever read
HDR in a dark room is no joke on the eyeballs. Might have to invest in some bias lighting to mitigate the strain. Would it help even without a wall mounted TV?
The B7 would by far be the best bang for the buck but I understand why you wouldn't want to go that way.
The XE9005 is very good, any lower than that (in EU at least...) and the HDR experience would be seriously compromised.
Keep in mind that next year may bring HDMI 2.1 which by itself might be a good reason to wait if you intend to keep your TV for at least 5-6 years (alternatively you coud snag a XF9005 on the cheap for example)
And considering that you wouldn't use 4k content for a while anyway I'd wait if I were you
This is biting me in the ass. I don't have a receiver on my gaming TV, so I have Apple TV and Oppo 203 directly to the display HDMI ports (movie sources, need their own modes). Then I have one HDMI switch for new 4K/HDR gaming and my PC, and another switch for old 1800p consoles.
So now either my PC or my consoles have the proper black level settings. Somehow my Xbox One seems to be handling it fine when setup for PC, but the PS4 needs stuff like Dark Souls at brightness 10 to see anything.
Edit: display is LG 55E6
Any suggestions? Ideally I'd have one more HDMI port on the TV. I could add yet another switch of some sort between the Oppo and Apple TV but it would suck to do so. HDMI in port on the Oppo doesn't support DV, plus I use the Apple TV more then anything and I'd hate waiting for,the Oppo to boot and switch each time.
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Now, you see :)
We watched Black Panther UHD on my B6 last night. Thought it looked great. Was using Dolby Vision where the default settings are different than standard HDR10. I probably strained my eyes because I noticed I had a slight headache after, BUT IT WAS WORTH IT.
You don't *have* to set your PC to output Full. I don't think games even make use of the extended dynamic range do they?
Is there a PC side setting that I need to configure if I want the PC to use limited? Nvidia GPU..
Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong here, but I'm no native speaker and just don't manage to find the right search terms. So, I'm posting because of a 2.1 sound problem I have with my mother-in-laws cheap tv (Telefunken). When a external devicde (be it headphones or a 2.1 system like I just bought her, one which you can only regulate on the subwoofer) is input, the stupid tv does not, as normal, shut off tv sound and lets you regulate the external sound with the remote, but instead has both osunds active and only lets you change the volume of the headphone-socket in the menu. That's annoying and might be too difficullt. Now my girlfriend had an interesting idea, but I cannot find anything, not even in my mother tongue German. Her idea was if there is some kind of device that is placed between the tv's headphone socket and the sounds systems cable and which has an infrared receiver and a small remote that only has 3 buttons, volume up, down, and mute. That way, even though two remotes are stupid as well, its at least easier to regulate the volume. If I had the money, I would now change the 2.1 system for one with a remote, but I cant find one I could afford. Same goes obviously for a tv with better settings (it just wont work otherwise, I tried several hours). I hope someone can help me or show me the right thread :D
I don't have my gaming PC operational at the minute, but there is definitely a setting in Nvidia control panel - I think it is under the same tab where you can toggle resolution.
Go 55" if you can. The screen size jump to 55 is the single biggest improvement you will see since all content is not 4K.
It does sound like OLED solves all of your problems, so if you're okay with the panel lottery and some image retention now and then, it's not a bad idea. But if you want to go full trouble free, then LED is the only game in town. LG makes IPS displays where angle is not a problem, but I can see they're not your favorite company right now.
I don't think DV is a dealbreaker, but if you're big on UHD Blu Ray, maybe down the line? But I don't think of these sales as now or never. After World Cup will be Back to School, or Black Friday, or Pre Christmas, or Boxing Day - every country has a variety of them throughout the year.
I can't speak to the price because I can't really comprehend the currency. For example here in SG, TVs are just...arbitrarily a lot more expensive. The XF900 is $1000 cheaper in Canada and yet we have roughly equal currencies, which means there are retail controls that really change the market. Certainly something like the QF7 would be interesting, or the LG SK9000 in a big bright room, or the B7 if you are okay with trying OLED, but it REALLY depends on your particular market.
Price parity on the B7 to the XF is pretty impressive. I would have bought that on the spot here, but my family living room is far smaller than yours. Honestly speaking, if you're set on something now, the B7 is going to give you the best value by far. If you buy the XE90 and then go back to the store, the B7 is still going to seem like an improvement, and that's saying something. But I will say if you're not at 55" yet any set at that level will seem like an improvement.
You're being unfair with the depressing comment. He values accuracy and watching content in pitch black room, of course OLED is best. While he clearly is biased with picking some selected reviews, he isn't a blind fanboy. He always has something to back his posts and it's good to have something different than the usual too dim complaint. I think he is very valuable to this thread.
And of course, if you can't control your light room level and plan to watch mostly with lights on or in daylight, you should buy a Sony LED.
I used to set the OLED light at 25, but I tried 60 and I'm pretty pleased by the result. OLED light for SDR content is the thing people can actually adapt to their liking without worry, there's no correct way to set it up.
Yeah I went to Best buy yesterday with the intention of getting the 55" 6 series for my office/gameroom upstairs. It looked ok the pixels were farily apparent which was surprising seeing that I would be sitting ~5ft away I was a little hesitent. Yes, I know showroom conditions are not a real indicator but the pixel display was really bothering me which isn't normally affected reagardless of showroom conditions. I'm coming from a 40" Samsung 4k so I knew the ppi would be less but the screendoor was really apparent on the tcl 6 series to me. I went and looked at the oleds knowing that I could get a new b7a for $500 more than the tcl online. The wife looked at me and point blank asked why I'm I not getting the oled. The B7A will be here early next week. Part of me holding off was for vrr, but the wife already agreed to move the b7a to the family room when another tv comes out down the road with the features I want comes out. I'm not sure how I pulled that off but I'll take it :)
Ugh, you are right. Maybe the depressing comment was a bit extreme.
If you have a brighter room or can not light control as much you get a led. It has been the samething as it was with plasma 10 years ago. Plasma and Oled can produce a better picture under the right conditions generally. But adding light into the equation LEDs are the better choice generally.
I play in my living room almost exclusively at night, so dark room/critical viewing performance is my primary use case. I do understand that not everyone uses their TV in the same way and that there are scenarios where LCDs are still valuable.
Well I like my OLED TV and I like Dotdashdot's posts... *shrug*
I feel the thread has been a wealth of information and actually is very inviting and helpful to drive by posters who generally pop in before a purchase and then disappear.
For a long time OLED was out my price bracket, and now I own one I am very happy and maybe a little 'gushy' about it. Is it perfect for everyone and every situation? Hell no.. but the thread is clear on that.
People will post positive experiences on the tech they use - this doesn't make your purchase or experience any less valid or enjoyable.
As always do your research and make the right purchase for you.
I feel the thread has been a wealth of information and actually is very inviting and helpful to drive by posters who generally pop in before a purchase and then disappear.
For a long time OLED was out my price bracket, and now I own one I am very happy and maybe a little 'gushy' about it. Is it perfect for everyone and every situation? Hell no.. but the thread is clear on that.
People will post positive experiences on the tech they use - this doesn't make your purchase or experience any less valid or enjoyable.
As always do your research and make the right purchase for you.
Which is OLED of course j/k
Unless you are in a very ambient bright room and worry about burn in..then maybe LCD instead...
You might even consider a decent projector if that's your thing...
Yesterday I replaced my 55" Samsung KS9000 with a 55" LG B7, and damn, it's a bigger difference than I was expecting.
Don't get me wrong, the KS9000 it's an awesome TV, but the blacks in the B7 needs to be seen to really see the advantage of the OLEDs.
The best thing though is bye bye local dimming.
Don't get me wrong, the KS9000 it's an awesome TV, but the blacks in the B7 needs to be seen to really see the advantage of the OLEDs.
The best thing though is bye bye local dimming.
Yeah, I had to remove the IMG-tags and I think I removed too much on the first one. But thanks for the answer, it's very likely that it's the channel. Comedy Central (Netherlands) has terrible bitrate as far as I know. The OLED stutter is also more noticeable there.
Speaking of which, does anyone with an LG OLED know a faster way to change motion settings? There are times when 'smooth' seems to be the best setting, but other times it's terrible (artifacts, 'stutter' where heads seem to move a couple of frames at once, rather than the 'regular stutter', etc.). Changing those settings on the fly would be a lot less annoying than going into the menus every time (and missing part of the movie/series because I need to check which setting works best).
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