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Oct 25, 2017
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What a terrible review.
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ive never disagreed more with an ann review than this.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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Two things you might want to look into:
  • Panel lining: it's a noticeable improvement on looks for not too much effort.
  • Posing: look for any blog post on gunpla posing (most of them give the same set of advice).
I'll wait until, I've done a few builds(and grab Gundam markers from B&N) I've got shaky hands and I hope some builds will help steady my hands. For now it's just the fun of building them.

Ok, so gunpla question, since it's the only show I've worked on, and being the oldest(which implies it'll have the most released kits) I'm thinking I'm going to start by doing suits from Gundam '79(high grade of course). I like the charm and style, so I thought I'd ask what are the best choices kit wise(in hg) from that era, especially on enemy mobile suits(since I take it most other eras don't ). That and Gundam Cannon and Tank are fun too, I saw they had revive kits, how are those? I've already decided to go with origins char's Zaku 2 hg for my next build though. So suggestions please? Oh and out of curiousity have any zeon mobile armors gotten kits over the years? This is more out of tangential interest than actually getting one
 

xEik

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Nov 17, 2017
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Nice panel lines do not actually come from steady hands (applying them is only half the work) but from cleaning them up (they are really easy to clean on unpainted plastic).
Regarding 0079 kits, I wouldn't limit myself, build whatever you find interesting. The Guncanon does have a Revive kit but AFAIK the Guntank does not.
As for Zeon kits with a revive, there's Ramba Ral's Gouf.
If you are interested on mobile armors you might look into the HG Zeong although I'm not sure if it qualifies.
 

Mandos

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Nice panel lines do not actually come from steady hands (applying them is only half the work) but from cleaning them up (they are really easy to clean on unpainted plastic).
Regarding 0079 kits, I wouldn't limit myself, build whatever you find interesting. The Guncanon does have a Revive kit but AFAIK the Guntank does not.
As for Zeon kits with a revive, there's Ramba Ral's Gouf.
If you are interested on mobile armors you might look into the HG Zeong although I'm not sure if it qualifies.
I just said revive as an option, but I'm guessing those are the most current redesigns on the classic suits hunh? Also there is a gun tank hg, but it's not a revive. Say how's the revive Gyan? Also, hg Zeong looks sick, I think I may aim at that as my big build this year, it definitely looks cool.

But yeah I am waiting on markers for now
 

xEik

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Nov 17, 2017
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For HG kits the typical Revive recommendation comes from steering people from reeeally old kits when a newer alternative exists but in general, as long as they aren't very old you should be OK.
The Gyan I cannot comment on since I haven't built any of them. Incidentally I have built the old Gouf and it wasn't that bad. The HG Z'Gok though is one of the worst kits I've built.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lemme c/p from the Gunpla thread:

HGUC ZZ Gundam is finished. Obviously way simpler than the MG Ver. KA but I really like it. Honestly surprised at how good the color separation is (aside from some red stickers on the knees).

Also I seriously need new nips before I get any more new kits, dem stress marks.

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xEik

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The thing I disliked the most about HG ZZ is the eye sensor sticker. It's kind of weird with the shiny middle part.
Incidentally, it is one of the few kits I haven't panel lined because I didn't have markers available when I built it. It's in my To-Do list and yet I know years might pass without me bothering to.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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Hmm, think I'll play it smarter this time, and if I'm ordering a cheaper revive from japan I'll order in pairs(so they get shipped together in a box) and that way I can get a minor backlog. While I want to do the origin Char Zaku 2 next, with the wait I may go ahead and put in an order for revive Gouf and Guncannon. Actually I think that is what I'll do
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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Ok, so just finished Gundam '79 and boy that was a good ride, and it has aged pretty well and I can definitely see why an entire universe has spun off of. And the mech designs are all solid for the limited art style. So guess it's time to ask where to go next(although I'm focused on one piece and Naruto shippeden ), but gives a nice break, and Hulu has a bunch of em.

Also put in my order for the revive Guncannon and gouf. For next month due to slow shippind(and I got them from the same seller). Although I may order the origin Char's Zaku 2 which has been suggestion
 

pantsattack

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ok, so just finished Gundam '79 and boy that was a good ride, and it has aged pretty well and I can definitely see why an entire universe has spun off of. And the mech designs are all solid for the limited art style. So guess it's time to ask where to go next(although I'm focused on one piece and Naruto shippeden ), but gives a nice break, and Hulu has a bunch of em.

Also put in my order for the revive Guncannon and gouf. For next month due to slow shippind(and I got them from the same seller). Although I may order the origin Char's Zaku 2 which has been suggestion
Since Hulu doesn't have Z or ZZ watch 08th MS Team. Gundam 00 is pretty iconic for how the main MS has so many versions in the show and versions in model form. The second season isn't as bad as some make it out to be, but the following movie, blech awful ending to the show. Avoid the movie.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Ok, so just finished Gundam '79 and boy that was a good ride, and it has aged pretty well and I can definitely see why an entire universe has spun off of. And the mech designs are all solid for the limited art style. So guess it's time to ask where to go next(although I'm focused on one piece and Naruto shippeden ), but gives a nice break, and Hulu has a bunch of em.

Also put in my order for the revive Guncannon and gouf. For next month due to slow shippind(and I got them from the same seller). Although I may order the origin Char's Zaku 2 which has been suggestion
I just finished Zeta a few weeks ago. It's a direct follow up both in production and story wise. It's very cool and if you liked 79 I'd imagine you'd like zeta. Here is a handy chart of the series in order of release and some additional info like what to expect quality wise.
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Oct 25, 2017
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Wanted to ask, does anyone have any experience with Daban kits?

I've been against bootlegs but their MG Strike Freedom looks so good. Really tempted, especially since I can nab the Wings of Light for it as well.
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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I just finished Zeta a few weeks ago. It's a direct follow up both in production and story wise. It's very cool and if you liked 79 I'd imagine you'd like zeta. Here is a handy chart of the series in order of release and some additional info like what to expect quality wise.
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Wait a sec, there was a live action western Gundam movie? I might have to check that one out of morbid curiousity! Also thanks for the ref
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Just finished ZZ. Man that show finishes far better than it begins. It's no 79 or Zeta but damn I love the way these shows end. Can't wait to watch Char's counter attack soon.

I feel like zz needs a episode guide to get through all the goofy dumb stuff.
 

RangerBAD

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait a sec, there was a live action western Gundam movie? I might have to check that one out of morbid curiousity! Also thanks for the ref

Canadian at that, but don't do it.

Just finished ZZ. Man that show finishes far better than it begins. It's no 79 or Zeta but damn I love the way these shows end. Can't wait to watch Char's counter attack soon.

I feel like zz needs a episode guide to get through all the goofy dumb stuff.

Maybe halfway through or maybe in the 30s? I don't remember.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Canadian at that, but don't do it.




Maybe halfway through or maybe in the 30s? I don't remember.
Skip all the shangrila stuff. Aside from the first episode. Then pick up once moon moon happens or Puru shows up. My least favourite trope in gundam is dumbass teens thinking they know what's best, Mondo and Beecha were the worst!

Is there a consensus for the worst gundam series? One that has no defenders.
 

xEik

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Nov 17, 2017
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Is there a consensus for the worst gundam series? One that has no defenders.
No, there are divisive Gundam series but what some find bad is OK for others.
I don't like Wing, Reconguista, F91 or Trailblazer for several reasons but others love them.
Build and G don't fit the war drama typical of Gundam but are generally good at what they do.
The most people might agree on is G-Saviour and (maybe) Trailblazer being bad but I haven't even watched G-Saviour so I cannot really tell.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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My morbid curiosity makes me really excited for the bad stuff. I'm gonna try to watch every god damn thing on that list I posted.
 

Voltt

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Oct 25, 2017
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What's so bad about AGE? I was listening to a gaming podcast and when they did a side note on Gundam, the host went in hard on AGE and said it was a commercial failure, but she didn't really elaborate

From a financial standpoint, the mecha designs weren't well liked for the most part, resulting in kits underselling. The actual writing issues the show had are more complicated, but the short answer is that AGE was a very interesting concept for a Gundam show that unfortunately was not handled well at all.
 

Neo0mj

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Oct 26, 2017
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Skip all the shangrila stuff. Aside from the first episode. Then pick up once moon moon happens or Puru shows up. My least favourite trope in gundam is dumbass teens thinking they know what's best, Mondo and Beecha were the worst!

Is there a consensus for the worst gundam series? One that has no defenders.

If you were to ask me it would be between V, RecG, and AGE. Gundam X seems to be more forgettable than hated and while Destiny seems to be not liked it still has the Seed characters to fall back on and some of the mobile suits are very popular.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Skip all the shangrila stuff. Aside from the first episode. Then pick up once moon moon happens or Puru shows up. My least favourite trope in gundam is dumbass teens thinking they know what's best, Mondo and Beecha were the worst!

Is there a consensus for the worst gundam series? One that has no defenders.

It's often said that all Gundam fans can agree that there are a lot of bad ones, but that none of them can agree which ones the bad ones are.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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It's often said that all Gundam fans can agree that there are a lot of bad ones, but that none of them can agree which ones the bad ones are.
I feel like you can probably construct some sort of scale where it's things most people like vs things less people like.
I feel like I haven't heard anyone really complain about 79, Zeta, Char's Counterattack, 8th MS or Unicorn as unwatchable trash.

I get a feeling some people are like SEED OR Wing is the best. But then there is stuff no one talks about.
 
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In this very thread you'll find posts where people say Zeta is the worst Gundam they've watched. Nothing is ever unanimously popular.
For sure, and I can see where people would find that show annoying. I'm just talking about in general though. Seems like that would be a unpopular opinion, still valid, but not what the majority thinks.
 

RangerBAD

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Oct 25, 2017
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My morbid curiosity makes me really excited for the bad stuff. I'm gonna try to watch every god damn thing on that list I posted.

You should and then come back to us when you facepalm at Gundam 00s season 2. 00 is unique as its the first Gundam series I remember having a break between the first two cours (they showed the second Code Geass series between it). More recently Gundam Orphans did this.
 

Plutone

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Oct 25, 2017
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A Wakening of the Trailblazer is an excellent movie that complements the original 00 fantastically. The best shows are the original 0079, Zeta, Victory, Turn A, 00, GBF and G-Reco. Worst shows? Seed Destiny, AGE, IBO. The last two are particularly guilty of being snoozefests at times.

I can't even lie and say that I just like being a contrarian for the sake of further muddying the data pool of what Gundam fans like. These are my genuine opinions.
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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Skip all the shangrila stuff. Aside from the first episode. Then pick up once moon moon happens or Puru shows up. My least favourite trope in gundam is dumbass teens thinking they know what's best, Mondo and Beecha were the worst!

Is there a consensus for the worst gundam series? One that has no defenders.

I don't think there's one with literally no defenders, but Destiny and AGE probably get the most flak.

Oh I completely forgot G-Reco. :lol That might actually be the worst for me. Even Destiny had a couple things I liked.

What's so bad about AGE? I was listening to a gaming podcast and when they did a side note on Gundam, the host went in hard on AGE and said it was a commercial failure, but she didn't really elaborate
The third arc, and particularly the final episode, really soured me on the show. The first arc is weak but ends well. The second arc is the show's peak. The third arc is uneven but interesting, then it just tanks right at the finish line.
 

Astral

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've never heard anyone talk about Gundam X so maybe that's the worst? Also Turn A, Zeta, and 0079 are the best.
 

Gunny T Highway

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Probably the only one most people will universally say is the worst Gundam show is G-Savior. People really like to rag on Gundam ZZ though. I personally like it more than Zeta (though Zeta is truly amazing) partially because Judau is a much more likable protagonist. If Char was supposed to show up like originally planned it would have been even better. Char's Counterattack though having some flaws is easily the best Gundam Movie and was the perfect end to the greatest rivalry in all of anime.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Probably the only one most people will universally say is the worst Gundam show is G-Savior. People really like to rag on Gundam ZZ though. I personally like it more than Zeta (though Zeta is truly amazing) partially because Judau is a much more likable protagonist. If Char was supposed to show up like originally planned it would have been even better. Char's Counterattack though having some flaws is easily the best Gundam Movie and was the perfect end to the greatest rivalry in all of anime.
I'd say I actually liked Kamille more. I could sympathise with his bratty behaviour earlier on and he grows into a much cooler character by the end. Judau starts off annoying because he is constantly tripping over himself and trying to make money early on. He gets better once he becomes a competent pilot, but he also has the baggage of being surrounded by Mondo, Beecha, and Reina. The villains are laughably lame until Glemy becomes interesting. How is Chara allowed to be in charge of anything? But yeah ZZ isn't that bad, you just need to get over the bad lumps. I don't regret watching it, which is what I was affraid of going in.
 

Gunny T Highway

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I'd say I actually liked Kamille more. I could sympathise with his bratty behaviour earlier on and he grows into a much cooler character by the end. Judau starts off annoying because he is constantly tripping over himself and trying to make money early on. He gets better once he becomes a competent pilot, but he also has the baggage of being surrounded by Mondo, Beecha, and Reina. The villains are laughably lame until Glemy becomes interesting. How is Chara allowed to be in charge of anything? But yeah ZZ isn't that bad, you just need to get over the bad lumps. I don't regret watching it, which is what I was affraid of going in.
Yeah Judau's friend baggage really drags him down. I also maybe like ZZ more because I like the powerhouse that is the ZZ Gundam itself.