I think I'm done with Kickstarter for now. Game looks interesting and I would love to play it. Would buy into early access.
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Temtem, MMO Pokémon inspired game launches kickstarter
- Thread starter Slamtastic
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To me, this seems like it could be incredibly interesting. I've always liked the idea behind Pokemon, but found the actual games to be not all that fun. They were all too slow, waaaay too easy, and with a giant barrier to competitive play.
If this can fix the above, I'll be very interested in playing it.
If this can fix the above, I'll be very interested in playing it.
They almost have half of the goal!
I'm very interested in this. I must wait a bit, but I'll definitely back this as soon as I can.
Also, please let us break the Switch stretch goal!
EDIT: Nvmd, forgot that I wouldn't be charged until the end of the kickstarter campaign. I'm a backer now !
I'm very interested in this. I must wait a bit, but I'll definitely back this as soon as I can.
Also, please let us break the Switch stretch goal!
EDIT: Nvmd, forgot that I wouldn't be charged until the end of the kickstarter campaign. I'm a backer now !
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I didn't look into details but reading more about it on the KS it gets worse lol
They even have a nuzlocke mode unlock at 90k$ lmao
They even have a nuzlocke mode unlock at 90k$ lmao
Yo Slamtastic could you put some more info regarding the financial situation of the studio and such in the OP? That would maybe help get rid of those stupid drive by posts :)
I just saw the video, this looks almost exactly like Pokemon, down to the camera angles and movement?? Is this a mod of a pokemon 3DS game?
I liked trying out monster catching series like Digimon World, Yu-Gi-Oh and Shin Megami Tensei. They don't rip pokemon off and have their own unique style.
Not interested in the overhyping premise. Ill just wait for the real thing.
I liked trying out monster catching series like Digimon World, Yu-Gi-Oh and Shin Megami Tensei. They don't rip pokemon off and have their own unique style.
Not interested in the overhyping premise. Ill just wait for the real thing.
People aren't calling it out for the basic premise, they're calling it out for blatantly copying elements, from the gameplay to certain visual style flair. Nobody said anything like that for Ooblets or any number of other monster collecting games because they don't bank on being copies but have their own unique style and identity on top of a similar basic premise.
I mean, you can be fine with this (so am I, whatever, I'm not really interested either way until it proves worthwhile at any rate), but it's pretty disingenuous to just claim other people are being dumb and calling them out for simply being in the same vague overall genre (like Doom-clones which was even just a way to describe a genre back then, not actually calling out the games by that term, the calling out would come in the review calling them derivative or crap or whatever other negative elements they possessed).
I mean, you can be fine with this (so am I, whatever, I'm not really interested either way until it proves worthwhile at any rate), but it's pretty disingenuous to just claim other people are being dumb and calling them out for simply being in the same vague overall genre (like Doom-clones which was even just a way to describe a genre back then, not actually calling out the games by that term, the calling out would come in the review calling them derivative or crap or whatever other negative elements they possessed).
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I mean, Smash clones are a thing and they seem to get a pass. I don't get where the line is drawn. They're not infringing on IP. Gameplay shouldn't be something you can slap down a patent on. I guess I'd need to know more what you mean about visual style flair.
Like the way battles are presented, the tall grass stuff and even the enemy trainer intros are lifted straight from all/certain Pokemon games. I mean, what media did you watch if you missed those parts? They basically pimped them in your face exactly to entice Pokemon fans. Nobody said they're infringing on copyright (ok, a couple people asked about that, that's about it, you could just say "probably not" and that's the end of that) or that everyone should be drawing lines in the sand (lol) so I dunno what you're on about there. If it's too derivative for some that's fine, if it's not for you that's fine as I already said, playing dumb and saying they're just calling it out for the vague genre when other games "got a pass" as you say despite being in the same genre and premise is just that, playing dumb, there's no reason to do that when you can simply agree to disagree. If you're okay with calling those games you mention "Smash clones" (I dunno about that, I haven't researched them all, some might be exact clones, others look pretty unique in gameplay and visuals too, again as Ooblets does for the monster collecting game) how's it wrong others call this a Pokemon clone then? Clearly there are games who do something different enough to get a pass and others which as far as some people are concerned don't, when each game is different there obviously won't be a universal stance for all games ever, how's that weird and something to ponder over?
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Comparing this game to any of Pokemon's actual competition that did it the hard way is laughable. This game does not have a genuine bone in its body and you guys are encouraging a bad style of game developement.
You're supporting a bootleg Pokémon game. Period
This game is more like going to the swap meet and buying a purple power ranger called "Strength Patroler"
Like you guys know this is plainly infringing on core Pokemon features.
You're either playing dumb, bc you don't care and want the Pokémon game you drew on the back of your social studies book or you have a amoral concept of creative theft
Strong words but I don't entirely disagree, I also just don't care.
Oh, so they're the devs of Immortal Redneck, that's interesting.
I wouldn't go as far as calling this "a bootleg pokemon game", but trainer intros in battle, evolution sequences and the way wild pokemon encounters start look literally identical to their Sun and Moon counterparts, to the point it's obvious they copied them on purpose, for whatever reason.
Do you mean funded and come out, or just funded? The answer to the later is many, the answer to the former is a few (such as Hex which bills itself as an MMO card game).
For real, if Nintendo thinks this is a problem with this (which there isn't) they'll do something about it they don't need their fans to send out PSA's about what people should and shouldn't support...
Looks interesting, but WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too similar to Pokemon. They should've at least made the evolution/battle screens different.
It certainly looks eons better than any Pokemon game Nintendo has actually made.
But in what universe can you finish a game like this with just 70K?
edit: I see they're seemingly using Kickstarter for marketing purposes more than anything. Hopefully it's actually true that game is mostly funded already.
But in what universe can you finish a game like this with just 70K?
edit: I see they're seemingly using Kickstarter for marketing purposes more than anything. Hopefully it's actually true that game is mostly funded already.
Oh okay, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but if you're going be this way. I can support any god damned fucking thing I want and there's not a god damned fucking thing you can do about that fact.
I don't really agree with the strongest allegations here, but you are right in that this is just bootleg Pokémon
Pokémon has been it's own thing with no real competition for quite some time, it's very uncommon. Every MOBA has ripped off of Dota, every multiplayer FPS has ripped off of Halo and Quake, every platforming game has borrowed something form Mario, etc etc. We need more games like TemTem to show there is a market for creature collection games so eventually we can get more unique ones out there.
So like is every FPS considered a Doom clone? Is any game that utilizes Souls mechanics considered a bootleg souls game. Is Digimon, Yokai Watch and Dragon Quest Monsters considered bootleg Pokemon? I mean they have breeding, you're collecting monsters, you use them to fight against others. They're clearly infringing Pokemon features so that means they shouldn't be supported, right?
None of those examples you listed have animations and concepts that are basically 1:1 to the inspiration. Regardless of where you stand on the game it shouldn't be hard to see where people are coming from here
So? Does the Pokemon Company not have enough money for you or something?
Yiiiikes. I hope you know Nintendo don't need your legal or moral expertise they have their own team that rigorously defend their IP. And I don't even know what you're trying to say with your condescension about wanting the game they drew in school... like it's so wrong that a game company would meet demand from game fans? Who gives a shit whether that fan is in school, their parents basement or in a penthouse, who are you to judge?
As far as creative theft and infringement I'll leave that to the teams at Nintendo and Crema whose jobs are literally to determine that, not take the word of an internet expert.
If it'll pass in court it's good enough for me. This looks interesting - frankly, the more competition Game Freak gets, the better. Maybe they'll actually start using their profit on their games.
Given that I'm someone who enjoys playing fan hacks of Pokémon games, it would be hypocritical for me to give something that passes the IP smell test shit.
Looks good. I didn't grow up with Pokemon, so it doesn't bother me at all that things are borrowed.
This looks good to me, and the devs are being very open about Pokemon as the inspiration. I don't see this as at-all shady, and like another member states above, TPC could use some serious competition.
Will do a little more research tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure I'll back this. Seems to me like the devs are trying to create the Pokemon game they've always wanted to play themselves, deviating from the original only as much as they need to.
Will do a little more research tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure I'll back this. Seems to me like the devs are trying to create the Pokemon game they've always wanted to play themselves, deviating from the original only as much as they need to.
Not many borrowed the entire art style too though. Cept maybe Super Giana Sisters.
People calling this a rip off but Fortnite gets a pass?
I would personally be very interested in this. Pokemon has jumped the shark for me. More battling and raising monsters and less stupid japanese stories written for children and im sold.
I would personally be very interested in this. Pokemon has jumped the shark for me. More battling and raising monsters and less stupid japanese stories written for children and im sold.
Tempted to back the 30$ tier but i'm worried that the Switch goal won't be reached and i honestly feel like this game would only work (for me) on a handheld
It's going to get ported to Switch no matter what. Just wait until the game is finished in 2021.
I don't mind a game like Pokemon being ripped-off or heavily borrowed from. Competition is a great thing.
I assume they're using their own assets and ideas as well and it doesn't seem like some shady thing where the devs are trying to hide their inspirations.
So the whole bootleg Pokemon argument doesn't make sense to me since this doesn't seem like infringing on a trademark, patent or copyright.
I assume they're using their own assets and ideas as well and it doesn't seem like some shady thing where the devs are trying to hide their inspirations.
So the whole bootleg Pokemon argument doesn't make sense to me since this doesn't seem like infringing on a trademark, patent or copyright.
My issue is more about being able to play offline when the servers are shut down.
With that said, going by their Discord, they currently say that if they do shut them down, they'll patch the game to work offline. Only time will tell if they stick to that, though.