Pokémon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (Switch) announced; coming Nov 16th 2018

Advc said:

One thing is for sure, this game is gonna sell like pancakes. I can honestly see it winning novembers NPD!

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Yeah, for sure. I hope Nintendo really have their Switch production on lock because otherwise they're going to be hard to find this holiday.

GhostTrick said:

Sure there's nothing wrong if a 2018 title plays like a 1996 title. There's nothing wrong too if a 2018 RPG has a map identical to a 1996 one. It's okay to have towns made of 3 houses. Let's be against change, it's acceptable.

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Are you alright? No, just because something is old doesn't mean it's bad. Things like isometric cameras have stuck around because they work well in a lot of scenarios.

Would I like to see a fully 3D Pokemon game with a behind the back camera and better 3D exploration? Yeah, of course. That doesn't inherently make them not doing that bad though. Hell, given so many modern games are going with a super bland and generic open world structure i'm actually pretty alright with this one staying the same.

LightKiosk said:

Can someone please help me out here?

As I followed the thread earlier, it was a back and forth between online is in and online isn't in, with it being local only. Now I read a GameStop article and seeing the OP, it mentions online is confirmed.

Does anyone really know at this point whether it is or isn't in?

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It's in.

The art is surprisingly hideous

Hope the mainlines return to the 3DS aesthetic

Kinsei said:

You can box your starter.

Pretty dumb that they can't evolve since it pretty much makes Eevee useless until you learn Last Resort at level 41 (Assuming Z-moves are in). Makes me wonder what the point of choosing the Eevee version is.

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Eevee completely destroys Pikachu in terms of cuteness. Screw that Pika, Eevee for life.

Also, let's be real, Pikachu is a hella useless Pokémon too, it makes no difference at all.

LightKiosk said:

Can someone please help me out here?

As I followed the thread earlier, it was a back and forth between online is in and online isn't in, with it being local only. Now I read a GameStop article and seeing the OP, it mentions online is confirmed.

Does anyone really know at this point whether it is or isn't in?

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Gamespot had a Q&A with Masuda and he confirmed to them that online trading and battling is in fact included in those games.

LightKiosk said:

Can someone please help me out here?

As I followed the thread earlier, it was a back and forth between online is in and online isn't in, with it being local only. Now I read a GameStop article and seeing the OP, it mentions online is confirmed.

Does anyone really know at this point whether it is or isn't in?

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Online not being in was thankfully a mistranslation.

Confirmation that it is in has greatly improved my thoughts on the game.

Kinsei said:

You can box your starter.

Pretty dumb that they can't evolve since it pretty much makes Eevee useless until you learn Last Resort at level 41 (Assuming Z-moves are in). Makes me wonder what the point of choosing the Eevee version is.

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O cool, thanks. I imagine they won't be, but that is speculation.

Bluewind098 said:

It's in.

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BOOT UP BOOT UP BOOT UP

Bluewind098 said:

It's in.

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Whew, finally some kind of closure. Also glad to hear online trading is in as well.

I expect to see a lot of people battling at lower levels to gain XP as a replacement to the wild battle system, which seems more appealing to me.

I think that the Eevee/Pikachu you'll het earlier will be way stronger that the normal ones. I am expecting different stats for both.

o k said:

The art is surprisingly hideous

Hope the mainlines return to the 3DS aesthetic

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I'm sure. This seems to cater to Go players and the aesthetics there.

The only really bad thing is the horrible trainer designs. Like yikes. The main heroes look horrible.

SieteBlanco said:

You don't get to decide what is or isn't a mainline title, though. GF does, and they're calling it a mainline title.

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A mainline title starting a dude on a bicycle playing Pokemon GO and locked to the region Pokemon.. Yeah they call it mainline as they like it's not the mainline series.

Noppie said:

Eevee completely destroys Pikachu in terms of cuteness. Screw that Pika, Eevee for life.

Also, let's be real, Pikachu is a hella useless Pokémon too, it makes no difference at all.

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Pikachu at least gets the light ball (which I assume you'll receive from Surge once you beat him) to keep it semi useful for the game.

Cuteness doesn't mean jack in a fight.

Noppie said:

I'm actually excited that they're taking their time with that one.

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Wasn't too hot on the last 2 gens so I'm fine with them taking some time on the next.

Mediking said:

The only really bad thing is the horrible trainer designs. Like yikes. The main heroes look horrible.

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The girl looks fine actually, but I cannot say the same about the boy.

I'm really curious how local co-op will work exactly in this game. It seems like it's drop-in, drop-out, right? To the best I can tell it kinda looks that way, and you can have someone join you pretty much anytime (as long as you aren't already trying to catch something or battling someone or anything like that).

If so, does it basically split the party in two? P1 gets top 3 Pokémon, P2 gets the other 3, and then they can just move them around and stuff from there. Or will there be some other way of determining who has access to what? And in co-op, what's the second player doing when you're trying to capture Pokémon. Do they somehow help with that, are they just doing nothing/taking turns, or does the game go split-screen and P2 keeps doing their own separate things doing those sequences?

Definitely going to be interesting to see how that all works out in any case. I've been curious about the idea of co-op in Pokémon games for a while, but I've never been quite sure about how Game Freak would go about handling it exactly when/if it would happen, so I guess we'll find out soon enough now as we get new details about these games.

Amiibola said:

It's has been already said that this is false

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I'm pretty sure we can't battle wild Pokemon.

So this is innovation for GameFreak? Revisiting Kanto + piggybacking off Niantic's success with Go?

How are you even supposed to catch the Pokemon in handheld mode? Surely they don't expect people to take out the joy con just to throw a pokeball? ...surely?

GhostTrick said:

Because exploration is also a thing. Because the maps in these games is made like a 2D title. Therefore the world feels super limited. No one is criticizing pokemon battles but the rest. Also, this one only has 151 Pokémons. What's tthei excuse ?

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To be clear, I dont like anything about these announcement (from content to artstyle) and I'll skip it just like I skipped Go, and I hope reviewers go deep on this having 151/806 Pokemon and still charging more.

But really, I love top-down view for handhelds games, Pokemon its the biggest handheld franchise and the switch its a hybrid console (the only reason its getting a real pokemon game in 2019), so I hope they keep the functional camera and that they dont go for a cinematic one.

Kinsei said:

Pikachu at least gets the light ball (which I assume you'll receive from Surge once you beat him) to keep it semi useful for the game.

Cuteness doesn't mean jack in a fight.

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I'm going to make a bold prediction but the accessories you put on them give them boosted stats. Kind of like armour in regular RPGs

This looks like such a cash grab with the poke ball accessory and Pokémon Go integration.

It looks good, I just hope there's enough content and not a complete gen 1 ripoff.

Redstreak said:

I mean i'm just looking at it from my own perspective. I play FE Heroes free on my phone but that doesn't mean I'm now suddenly willing to drop $60 on a mainline title. I'm not underestimating Go's success (I am curious as to how many active players it still holds) but I think people are underestimating how much of its success rides on it being free. I mean Mario is Nintendo's biggest franchise but the paywall for Mario Run made it somewhat of a dud compared to Go, and that price tag was only $10, let alone how most of the people coming from Go would not only have to buy the game but also the $300 system needed to play it

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You are posting on a video game forum. That already puts you in the most hardcore 1% of potential buyers.

There are millions of potential consumers out there who may or may not own a Switch, may or may not have played Pokemon before, may or may not have children they want to play the game with.

My reaction's mixed. I love Kanto but I'm bored of capturing and training the original 151 having done it many times over by this point. I quite like the more interactive catching and Pokemon appearing in the over world but how on earth can there be no wild battles?

Also, the graphics and animations are lazy. Blastoise firing out of his mouth? No excuses.

I'll wait and see but it seems overly simplified and casual, hopefully that's just a false impression because the trailer focused on gimmicks.

Protome said:

Yeah, for sure. I hope Nintendo really have their Switch production on lock because otherwise they're going to be hard to find this holiday.



Are you alright? No, just because something is old doesn't mean it's bad. Things like isometric cameras have stuck around because they work well in a lot of scenarios.

Would I like to see a fully 3D Pokemon game with a behind the back camera and better 3D exploration? Yeah, of course. That doesn't inherently make them not doing that bad though. Hell, given so many modern games are going with a super bland and generic open world structure i'm actually pretty alright with this one staying the same.

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They should even go back to 2D. It saves a lot of time too.

Have you ever been simultaneously intrigued and disappointed all at once?

That's how I feel right now to be honest.

I don't know what to think of this. Let's break this down:

+ A Pokémon game that finally looks technically competent.
+ Combat reminds me of Stadium, and that was pretty fun.
+ Gen 1, sweet.
+ Perfect for Switch™

- Game seems incredibly dumbed down a là Pokémon Go, with collecting being the main thing instead of fighting or having a story - the trailers didn't even mention the existence of a story.
- Connecting this game to that mess that is Pokémon Go will sure bring in sales, but it seems dumb for many reasons. Like, do frequent Go players basically "win the game" by default by having everyone?
- That Pokéball looks dumb as fuck, but at least it's totally optional.
- Instead of making a new kind of game with new gameplay mechanics and such, seems like they stripped down the experience to the very core. Go connection aside I saw nothing new.

Since my girlfriend used to play Go and she'd probably like this, it's entirely possible I'll pick this up, but I'm not really a fan of what I saw. We got two and a half new Pokémon games today, but neither really interest me. Since they're so into trying out new concepts, I'd like them make a BOTW/Skyrim-like open world game, but I guess that, at least for now, we're stuck between "classic" Pokémon games and mobile style games, plus match 3 spin-offs and such. The upside is that this game looks pretty solid technically, these are graphics I can live with for the Switch, so the next Pokémon games should at least look pretty good. After playing the HD games on the Switch, it was really painful to go back to the 3DS' tiny screens with aliasing and horrible geometries, glad at least we moved on from that.

Wild Mewtwo appeared!

*just stands there and gets caught*

Sorry if this has been asked/answered already: is there any details on the capturing controls? More specifically, is motion control a requirement or just an option?

I ask because a friend of a friend is disabled and won't be able to use motion controls, and they're looking for any confirmation that the game can be played just with buttons. If anyone has an answer, I'd really appreciate it so I can pass it along.

I realize it's early days and there hasn't been any formal previews/hands-on yet, just asking on the off-chance this was confirmed anywhere.

dean_rcg said:

Didn't Pokemon Go already have a positive effect on sales of the 3DS Pokemon games and hardware??

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I guess it did (aided by the fact that a 2DS + game is inside the "impulse purchase" price bracket, while Switch + game is not), but the point is player retention. I doubt many Go players staid for the whole ride of a turn based JRPG, no matter how light it is, especially kids that have only known phone games based on instant gratification.

I love the pokeball idea, it's the new pokewalker.

Xavi said:

Lapras pic was real

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duh

Kinsei said:

Pikachu at least gets the light ball (which I assume you'll receive from Surge once you beat him) to keep it semi useful for the game.

Cuteness doesn't mean jack in a fight.

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Cuteness means everything in a game where the Pokémon follow you. You wouldn't use either in a serious combat / online, so I'm going with cute. And that is Eevee no doubt.

Eevee >>> Pikachu.

The 2019 title has me more intrigued than the Go titles but I'm gunna end up with both.

I'm also so glad they ditched that stupid safety gear they made the characters wear when riding Pokemon in SM. That was too "think of the children" even for Pokemon.

hemo memo said:

A mainline title starting a dude on a bicycle playing Pokemon GO and locked to the region Pokemon.. Yeah they call it mainline as they like it's not the mainline series.

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Enjoy sending and getting Pokémon from other regions via Pokébank in early 2019.

GhostTrick said:

Sure there's nothing wrong if a 2018 title plays like a 1996 title. There's nothing wrong too if a 2018 RPG has a map identical to a 1996 one. It's okay to have towns made of 3 houses. Let's be against change, it's acceptable.






Because exploration is also a thing. Because the maps in these games is made like a 2D title. Therefore the world feels super limited. No one is criticizing pokemon battles but the rest.

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Goddamn that's some overreaction.
Do you also get mad about isometric games on PC, or 2D platformers?

GhostTrick said:

They should even go back to 2D. It saves a lot of time too.

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Sure, a new 2D pokemon with modern 2D art would look pretty outstanding.
Why not both, like the most recent Dragon Quest game, which I guess you also hate.

SieteBlanco said:

Dignity and courage.

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Yeah, this is completely at odds with all the English marketing.

Because I really need to get to sleep right now, I'm just going to leave this at: I don't agree, and it bodes really poorly for Gen VIII if they think this is mainline.

Serebii said:

You all understand why I brought up "what defines a generation?" now, eh? :P

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I don't think anyone would mistake this for a new generation.

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#TeamPikachu

Come at me.

Ushojax said:

You are posting on a video game forum. That already puts you in the most hardcore 1% of potential buyers.

There are millions of potential consumers out there who may or may not own a Switch, may or may not have played Pokemon before, may or may not have children they want to play the game with.

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Which is my entire point. If someone dedicated wouldn't shell out cash just because they enjoyed a free game then why would other people who aren't dedicated?

Orion said:

Wild Mewtwo appeared!

*just stands there and gets caught*

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He will only get caught if you use throw your arm at your tv at just the right angle. Lol

Kinsei said:

Pikachu at least gets the light ball (which I assume you'll receive from Surge once you beat him) to keep it semi useful for the game.

Cuteness doesn't mean jack in a fight.

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I got second place in a little cup tournament with my Adaptability eevee.
It can hit really hard early in the game if they gave him that and let you use a coice band.

GSR said:

Sorry if this has been asked/answered already: is there any details on the capturing controls? More specifically, is motion control a requirement or just an option?

I ask because a friend of a friend is disabled and won't be able to use motion controls, and they're looking for any confirmation that the game can be played just with buttons. If anyone has an answer, I'd really appreciate it so I can pass it along.

I realize it's early days and there hasn't been any formal previews/hands-on yet, just asking on the off-chance this was confirmed anywhere.

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Unfortunately the one aspect the controls we have heard indicates the motion controls are mandatory and despite it being the main control option in Pokemon Go you can't use the touchscreen in hand held mode. There's a chance it might be a mistranslation like with the online debacle but no one has deconfirmed forced Motion controls.

Eolz said:

Goddamn that's some overreaction.
Do you also get mad about isometric games on PC, or 2D platformers?

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I dont because these are pretty much new IPs.
We're talking about a 20 years old one.

Protome said:

Sure, a new 2D pokemon with modern 2D art would look pretty outstanding.
Why not both, like the most recent Dragon Quest game, which I guess you also hate.

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You know, the good thing with "why not both" is that you actually get both.
No, I dont hate DQXI. You know why ? Because they actually did the right thing. Keep the mechanics everyone loves and make a more faithful looking world. Towns looking like towns.
Even for the 3DS game, they didnt simply made a 2D version but also a good looking 3D one.

Gotta go with Pikachu, because I want Alolan Raichu to hover behind me everywhere fam

I hope I can customize her

Why people are so mad if we're still getting more traditional Pokemon game next year?

This looks okay I guess.

This is... Interesting. So no wild poke battles, you just catch them but you have trainer battles.

So it is like Pokemon Yellow meets Pokemon Go. Interesting.

Redstreak said:

Which is my entire point. If someone dedicated wouldn't shell out cash just because they enjoyed a free game then why would other people who aren't dedicated?

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Because they aren't you? There are 6 billion people in the world.

Bluewind098 said:

Unfortunately the one aspect the controls we have heard indicates the motion controls are mandatory and despite it being the main control option in Pokemon Go you can't use the touchscreen in hand held mode. There's a chance it might be a mistranslation like with the online debacle but no one has deconfirmed forced Motion controls.

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I don't think there's any chance they'll force motion controls in handheld mode.