I would gladly pay 100 bucks for the infinity war Blu-ray right now.

zoggy · May 26, 2018

why haven't film studios done this yet?

Or better yet, offer VOD of movies day one, I don't care the price.

Going to movies sucks and is such a hassle. Drive there, food sucks floors are sticky people talking during the movie. I have a big enough screen in my house the spectacle of a giant screen and surround sound is gone.

I would have rather paid like 50$ per person to just stream the damn thing at my house. It's a long weekend and I want to see it again but fuck the movie theatre.

Now my options are to stream some crappy cam rip, which is still a better experience than driving to some dumbass theater

Omar310 · May 26, 2018

Seems like a bit much.

But yeah, lemme watch this shit at home.

jvalioli · May 26, 2018

https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/7/8361475/prima-cinema-luxury-movie-watching-furious-7

Cybersai · May 26, 2018

Yeah...no. I wouldn't even want to spend more than $20 for it.

Amathene · May 26, 2018

Day 1 torrenting?

Deleted member 3837 · May 26, 2018

God, why?

KingOfDyslexics · May 26, 2018

Its a shame you feel the movie theater experience isn't worth it for you. But even if people paid 100 bucks for day one streaming, theaters are a mainstay of society and must be preserved. Yes 4k tvs are close to image quality of most traditional film projectors. But your surround sound will never match a theater. And as large as your screen is, it will never be as large as a cinema.

Strike · May 26, 2018

It'll be out in like 3 months.

seat · May 26, 2018

Amathene said:
Day 1 torrenting?

Yep.

Darknight · May 26, 2018

Man I'm so glad I live in an area that has a lot of theaters to select from, theaters that don't suck, and live in an area where people aren't constantly ruining the movie. I always hear these horror stories but I just never ever come close to the experience that some of you guys have.

Halbrand · May 26, 2018

Yeah, my HDR TV is so much better quality than at the movie theatre and for the first time I wish I could just watch new movies at home instead. The biggest issue though is how much of a boost that would give bootlegging.

The Pharmercy · May 26, 2018

Don't give them ideas lol

zoggy · May 26, 2018

KingOfDyslexics said:
Its a shame you feel the movie theater experience isn't worth it for you. But even if people paid 100 bucks for day one streaming, theaters are a mainstay of society and must be preserved. Yes 4k tvs are close to image quality of most traditional film projectors. But your surround sound will never match a theater. And as large as your screen is, it will never be as large as a cinema.

Why can't we have both?

Either go to a theater or steam at home for more money.

Bootleggers will always bootleg.

There was a full cam recording of infinity war the Thursday night the week it was released.

Gatti-man · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
Why can't we have both?

Either go to a theater or steam at home for more money.

Bootleggers will always bootleg.

There was a full cam recording of infinity war the Thursday night the week it was released.

Cam recording isn't the same as a 4k rip and they do offer day and date releases. Last I checked they are around 5k per and they aren't physical it's a rental.

You want day 1 physical media? For $100? Lmao never will happen not ever.

TheAvatar · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
Why can't we have both?

Either go to a theater or steam at home for more money.

Bootleggers will always bootleg.

There was a full cam recording of infinity war the Thursday night the week it was released.

because everybody loses then, theater loses business, don't many people are gonna watch the 4K streaming, it'll just make it easier to torrent/steal. This just wouldn't work

Johnny Blaze · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
Why can't we have both?

Either go to a theater or steam at home for more money.

Bootleggers will always bootleg.

There was a full cam recording of infinity war the Thursday night the week it was released.

Because a good 4k/fullhd stream will be ripped and pirated the second he is available on any platform and people won't go to the cinema or even pay for it, but just wait for the rip.

subpar spatula · May 26, 2018

jvalioli said:
https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/7/8361475/prima-cinema-luxury-movie-watching-furious-7

I was actually looking at getting this. Sounds like a good deal but I don't know if they got 4k yet.

Darknight · May 26, 2018

subpar spatula said:
I was actually looking at getting this. Sounds like a good deal but I don't know if they got 4k yet.

If I recall, they went under.

subpar spatula · May 26, 2018

Darknight said:
If I recall, they went under.

Really? Wow. I so fell out of the loop.

Malverde · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
Going to movies sucks and is such a hassle. Drive there, food sucks floors are sticky people talking during the movie.

I used to agree with this until I experienced a Dolby theater. The experience is sooo much better I don't even mind the premium cost.

hordak · May 26, 2018

yeah if they released a digital version for $100, how fast before it gets pirated? I would say 3 hours. Why the fuck would any movie studio do that?

subpar spatula · May 26, 2018

For Deadpool 2, I went in with a few friends to rent out a theater. Brought in some beer and burgers.

Sounded better than my zero surround sound TV at home.

Halbrand · May 26, 2018

DarthOrange said:
I used to agree with this until I experienced a Dolby theater. The experience is sooo much better I don't even mind the premium cost.

Ugh, why doesn't Canada have this

Syriel · May 26, 2018

jvalioli said:
https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/7/8361475/prima-cinema-luxury-movie-watching-furious-7

Prima went belly up in 2016. First system was installed in 2012.

subpar spatula said:
For Deadpool 2, I went in with a few friends to rent out a theater. Brought in some beer and burgers.

Sounded better than my zero surround sound TV at home.

Baller.

Kyoufu · May 26, 2018

I can't wait for movies to get both theatrical and home releases simultaneously.

subpar spatula · May 26, 2018

Kyoufu said:
I can't wait for movies to get both theatrical and home releases simultaneously.

Won't that kill theaters?

Also, I don't know the economics of theaters but isn't it more profitable for studios to take a chunk of that $12 admission fee than a blanket subscription covering all their products?

RedStep · May 26, 2018

#1 - Because they care more about the $2b they're making from theaters than somebody whining on the internet.

#2 - Because then an HD rip would be out day 1, which would tank another nice chunk of that $2b.

Nothing (at all. All, ALL.) to gain, plenty to lose.

cervanky · May 26, 2018

Kyoufu said:
I can't wait for movies to get both theatrical and home releases simultaneously.

I dread the possibility that theatres could die were this to happen
BUT
If this weeds out the plebs by letting them talk to each other and text and munch loudly on snacks at home and leaves only film connoisseurs in the theatres, I wouldn't complain.

Darknight · May 26, 2018

RedStep said:
#1 - Because they care more about the $2b they're making from theaters than somebody whining on the internet.

#2 - Because then an HD rip would be out day 1, which would tank another nice chunk of that $2b.

Nothing (at all. All, ALL.) to gain, plenty to lose.

I'm surprised nobody is proclaiming money is being left on the table. I always hate that argument.

zoggy · May 26, 2018

hordak said:
yeah if they released a digital version for $100, how fast before it gets pirated? I would say 3 hours. Why the fuck would any movie studio do that?

The theater version of movies was pirated just as quick and I watched it.

Here pick a random movie that's been out for years and go try to pirate it and see how many hoops you have to jump through.

Now you may be tech savvy and can do it but how many people who will do this rather than just pay for Netflix or their VOD? It's just easier.

Pirated movies existed way before the internet and there always will be pirated content.

It's just like the pirated video game debate with DRM.

This time the DRM is the damn cinema

Regulus Tera · May 26, 2018

I imagine piracy concerns. You can find plenty of sites streaming movies on day one of VOD releases.

Kyoufu · May 26, 2018

RedStep said:
#1 - Because they care more about the $2b they're making from theaters than somebody whining on the internet.

#2 - Because then an HD rip would be out day 1, which would tank another nice chunk of that $2b.

Nothing (at all. All, ALL.) to gain, plenty to lose.

What difference does it make if the HD rip is available on day one or day 100? If the person who is going to download that HD rip has no intention of going to the theater to watch the film then what does it matter? At least this way you can offer them a legal, monetised method to watch the film in the comfort of their own home.

Halbrand · May 26, 2018

There's a huge difference between a bootleg of someone filming a movie with their camera and a direct HD/4K rip.

BLLYjoe25 · May 26, 2018

it's not gonna happen. i actually like going to the cinema. it makes it more exciting. but yeah having to wait months to buy it sucks but oh well.

Darknight · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
The theater version of movies was pirated just as quick and I watched it.

You're completely ignoring the quality of the pirated version though. A theatrical movie is going to be cam version initially. At some point you may get a foreign version with hard coded subs or something, but it really is awhile before an actual quality version is released. What you're asking for is that quality version to be released on day 1. There's a huge difference between how it takes place now and how it would take place by offering a home version on day 1.

Johnny Blaze · May 26, 2018

Kyoufu said:
What difference does it make if the HD rip is available on day one or day 100? If the person who is going to download that HD rip has no intention of going to the theater to watch the film then what does it matter? At least this way you can offer them a legal, monetised method to watch the film in the comfort of their own home.

Most people who go to the cinema would just watch it for free if they could.

zoggy · May 26, 2018

Darknight said:
You're completely ignoring the quality of the pirated version though. A theatrical movie is going to be cam version initially. At some point you may get a foreign version with hard coded subs or something, but it really is awhile before an actual quality version is released. What you're asking for is that quality version to be released on day 1. There's a huge difference between how it takes place now and how it would take place by offering a home version on day 1.

Go try and pirate an old movie right now In hd quality and time it, then compare it to how quickly it takes to just fucking pay some money and stream/rent it.

Which do you think the layman consumer would rather do? Install some extra software, go to shady torrent sites, download it then maybe find some encryption on it that requires some more bullshit

Or just go fucking pay some money and hit play.

How does Netflix make any money by offering all their originals day one? It can all be easily pirated day one right?

Timbuktu · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
Going to movies sucks and is such a hassle. Drive there, food sucks floors are sticky people talking during the movie. I have a big enough screen in my house the spectacle of a giant screen and surround sound is gone.

I keep reading things like this on here, but personally I haven't had such bad experience at the cinema and I love going out for movies even though I have a decent system at home. Is it a particularly American thing?

Kyoufu · May 26, 2018

Dirt McGirt said:
Most people who go to the cinema would just watch it for free if they could.

I can't speak for everyone but I don't know anyone in my circle who would rather pirate than go to the theater with their friends/family. They enjoy the massive screen, popcorn and to them it feels like an event.

Darknight · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
Go try and pirate an old movie right now In hd quality and time it, then compare it to how quickly it takes to just fucking pay some money and stream/rent it.

Which do you think the layman consumer would rather do? Install some extra software, go to shady torrent sites, download it then maybe find some encryption on it that requires some more bullshit

Or just go fucking pay some money and hit play.

How does Netflix make any money by offering all their originals day one? It can all be easily pirated day one right?

You realize Kodi boxes with piracy plugins are a thing right? Tons of people use that for simplicity.

Timbuktu said:
I keep reading things like this on here, but personally I haven't had such bad experience at the cinema and I love going out for movies even though I have a decent system at home. Is it a particularly American thing?

No, it's not an American thing.

Mr Snrub's Assistant · May 26, 2018

Where does OP live that every cinema available to them is some horrific hellscape?

Maybe it's a US thing, but I've been going to the cinema my whole life and could count the number of 'awful' theatrical experiences on one hand.

zoggy · May 26, 2018

The fuck is a kodi box? This is niche shit.

Pirates will always pirate, they pirate because Either they

A) don't want to pay money

Or

B) don't want the hassle that along with paying for it (like drm or the movie theater)

By releasing a VOD day one you don't lose anyone to those two categories

People don't pirate because of the convienience, because it's not convenient

Suiko · May 26, 2018

The release cycle is already getting shorter, it's many months shorter than it was 20 years ago.

nomis · May 26, 2018

Drewton said:
Ugh, why doesn't Canada have this

yeah... currently investigating the feasibility of driving down to spokane washington for the next big release... for a friend.

Johnny Blaze · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
The fuck is a kodi box? This is niche shit.

Pirates will always pirate, they pirate because Either they

A) don't want to pay money

Or

B) don't want the hassle that along with paying for it (like drm or the movie theater)

People don't pirate because of the convienience, because it's not convenient

Nah.

adrem007 · May 26, 2018

Mr Snrub's Assistant said:
Where does OP live that every cinema available to them is some horrific hellscape?

Maybe it's a US thing, but I've been going to the cinema my whole life and could count the number of 'awful' theatrical experiences on one hand.

It doesn't have to be awful to be annoying, it's not an american thing. Just the thought that I can run into some idiots sours the experience for me

Darknight · May 26, 2018

zoggy said:
The fuck is a kodi box? This is niche shit.

Pirates will always pirate, they pirate because Either they

A) don't want to pay money

Or

B) don't want the hassle that along with paying for it (like drm or the movie theater)

People don't pirate because of the convienience, because it's not convenient

Kodi is a piece of software that has an open plugin support. People create plugins to make a simple interface to stream pirated content. People sell these boxes all pre setup and ready to go. They're pretty damn common. I'm surprised at how often I see people have these setups despite thinking most people wouldn't know about it.

Any way, what point are you trying to get at? Piracy can be simple and convenient. You might just not be up to speed on how easy it can be. Regardless, the whole point is piracy now gives you a shitty quality for a theatrical release. Releasing a home movie on day 1 will give you a perfect quality release. There's a huge difference in quality and time line between the two and that's one reason they're not going to do this.

Mr Snrub's Assistant · May 26, 2018

adrem007 said:
It doesn't have to be awful to be annoying, it's not an american thing. Just the thought that I can run into some idiots sours the experience for me

I guess for me the positives of the experience massively outweigh any potential annoyances. I mean, 'I might run into some idiots' is something that could apply to literally any activity you do in public at any time

RedStep · May 26, 2018

Kyoufu said:
What difference does it make if the HD rip is available on day one or day 100? If the person who is going to download that HD rip has no intention of going to the theater to watch the film then what does it matter? At least this way you can offer them a legal, monetised method to watch the film in the comfort of their own home.

That's completely wrong, frankly. Of course I would never pirate a movie (unlike the OP) but I do have a nice home setup and an HD rip would be very tempting when choosing between my couch and facing blockbuster opening weekend crowds, assuming the quality is the same. That's why shitty cams don't cut that deep into sales: the quality is nowhere near the same. It's not the "real thing".

Sales drop when pirating is easy. We've seen this play out with "good guy" DRM-free games over and over. A lot of people are looking for convenience and will bypass their morals for a little bit of it. Make it a little harder and they'll get off their ass. Of course that doesn't apply to everybody, but quite a few people will fall on whichever side of the line is easier.

zoggy said:
Pirates will always pirate, they pirate because <blah blah blah>

You yourself just said that you went to a theater to see a movie and then pirated it. Which one is it?

adrem007 · May 26, 2018

Mr Snrub's Assistant said:
I guess for me the positives of the experience massively outweigh any potential annoyances. I mean, 'I might run into some idiots' is something that could apply to literally any activity you do in public at any time

Yeah, but in other public situations someone looking at their phone isn't infuriating

I would gladly pay 100 bucks for the infinity war Blu-ray right now.

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