30-year-old man is being sued by his parents because he refuses to leave home

Rayne · May 25, 2018

Yeah I will never understand this.

Even assuming his parents were perfectly willing to keep paying his way who the hell wants to be stuck with their parents whining at them constantly? Yes living on your own sucks but hell at least that way you don't have to deal with them anymore except like once or twice a year probably even less if you really can't be bothered. Plus there's something so cathartic about being able to walk away from them and know they have no hold on you.

Like dude you have a kid yourself. I couldn't deal with my parents constantly nitpicking at what I do I'd go insane.

That said dude better get started on getting as much paper as he can now XD definitely kicked out.

But it looks like dude is probably gonna milk this for all the controversy and money he can get so good for him?

Deepthought_ · May 25, 2018

Mammoth Jones said:
Your scenario is completely different than the scenario you quoted me speaking on. I'm totally fine with what you're saying. And I agree. But not in school. Not working. Able bodied. That's just being a leech. Obviously most parents are going to cut their kid some slack when they see in the long term it puts them in a better position. Of course. But this dude ain't that scenario.

You are right sorry about that

Zoe · May 25, 2018

Addleburg said:
I mean, you're dead. You can't take it with you. I guess you could donate it? Otherwise, I don't know what else you have planned for that stuff.

That's what liquidating the estate for.

Addleburg said:
They probably would want your house.

As he said, people want to money, not necessarily the house itself. In many of these situations it's very likely for the house to be in poor condition, in BFE where none of the children want to live, or in such a hot area that the children can't afford to live in it once the property tax exemptions are wiped away.

scitek · May 25, 2018

It would be one thing if he were living with his parents while planning a way to support himself, or at least help contribute in a positive way to their household, but it sounds like he's just dead weight, and doesn't care about anyone but himself.

cosmicblizzard · May 25, 2018

-Tetsuo- said:
Wut

I have a very arbitrary view of "having your life together" due to my own insecurities, like it's some kind of checklist rather than a unique situation for each person. Having a kid does a lot for that checklist in my mind, even if deep down I know that's zero indication that you have your life together and is sometimes an indication that you have it together less than someone without a kid. Fact of the matter is I'm better off than this guy in almost every way even if I do still live with my parents despite having a house.

Deleted member 25108 · May 25, 2018

Addleburg said:
I don't care for what I've seen of the dude so far, but a lot of what's making this awkward is the reporter's approach to this. The dude isn't the most eloquent speaker, which exacerbates things with the awkward pauses. But her sort of smug and perpetual (o_O) expression automatically positions her to me as someone who's not just asking questions, but who is happy to let viewers know that deep down she's just as judgmental of him as they are.

She also re-hashes questions that she knows the answer to. Asking if the guy doesn't want personal space or to be able to form private relationships is a question everyone already knows the answer to. Asking why he can't move out tomorrow is the question that everyone already knows the answer to. Her commenting on him taking the sip of water was just a bizarre thing to comment on.

The dude is cringe-y as hell on his own, but from the 4 or so minutes I watched of this, she seemed content to exacerbate and call attention to it even more.

Agreed.

She is trying to help him realise how incredibly insane his train of thought is. Not only that, but she is a playing to a audience that is hostile to the idea that a grown man can live like this.

She is professional. She might not be fair, but she knows exactly what she is doing.

okayfrog · May 25, 2018

Vadara said:
Being a wageslave is overrated. The economy is shit and work is a joke. I 22 and live the moocher hikikomori NEET life and I'm not ashamed of it.

Based. Keep up the good work.

H.Protagonist · May 25, 2018

Mammoth Jones said:
No parent wants to see their grown child being a lazy leech. When I was in my early 20's I toss my mom a few hundred to help with bills. She knew I was struggling to really get into my career and working menial jobs in-between industry layoffs. But I still had an obligation to provide for home. That's a part of being an adult. No excuses. If dude had a job and was truly trying his parents would still look out for him. That's what I found to be true: Parents many times will help when you're on point in a good direction but rescind such assistance if you're taking advantage of it or not really trying on your end. Not getting leeched by some lazy piece of shit. Blood or not.

Yup. Pretty much. A bit of effort and reciprocation goes a loooong way. As long as my kid is driving forward and trying I'm happy to support them. That's why I find it strange how so many people seem to think teaching your kid about real world obligations like 'rent' is cruel somehow. I think good parenting means equipping your children with the tools to make it out there, i.e. be an adult, and this is one way of doing that. It's not a one-size fits all solution, but it's perfectly reasonable, in my opinion.

Monkey_D said:
One thing I would blame the parent for is the fact that they cuddled him for too long. They were too nice and caring. Many other parents would have kicked his ass out into society to force him to become a man a long time ago.

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

KingOfDyslexics · May 25, 2018

My dad kicked me out at 26, and I had to deal with things on my own. Thankfully I was on welfare though and had savings for an apartment deposit. My dad and I just didnt get along and I was very depressed taking care of him as best as I could. He does fine on his own.

Liquidsnake · May 25, 2018

NewDonkStrong said:
If you're unemployed, male, 18-35, live with parents, then there's a 99.9% chance that you're playing video games all day with a couple masturbation breaks.

Sounds like heaven to me.

Helel · May 25, 2018

Liquidsnake said:
Sounds like heaven to me.

Sounds like how I'll spend my free time when employed. Lol.

Deleted member 19003 · May 25, 2018

The family seems to have a second child, a daughter that doesn't live with them and is not maladjusted like their son. So I don't think it's so much the parents, although they've probably enabled him a bit too long. Bizarre to see anyone try to defend him or the leech lifestyle. How is it okay for you to deem "wageslave" work beneath you while forcing others to do it to keep you in comfort? Selfish assholes.

shadow_shogun · May 25, 2018

H.Protagonist · May 25, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

I wonder how long a 30 year old with 'little' work experience or motivation to work will last when he finds out they expect him to work for that check.

EDIT: Fixed

Darknight · May 25, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

What a great marketing move to take advantage of the situation.

Deleted member 28461 · May 25, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

I wonder if they saw where he sued Best Buy a couple years ago for gender discrimination after he was fired for not showing up for multiple shifts.

Deleted member 19003 · May 25, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

I'm sure he has an excuse prepped.

Deleted member 43084 · May 25, 2018

EDIT: nvm InfoWars tweet was already posted

H.Protagonist · May 25, 2018

minimaxir said:

He's getting a lot of mileage out of that same suit and tie.

cosmicblizzard · May 25, 2018

Cas said:
The family seems to have a second child, a daughter that doesn't live with them and is not maladjusted like their son. So I don't think it's so much the parents, although they've probably enabled him a bit too long.

Could be a developmental disorder. I wouldn't be surprised seeing that interview.

Deleted member 28461 · May 25, 2018

H.Protagonist said:
He's getting a lot of mileage out of that same suit and tie.

This should really be a lesson to any 20-somethings here. Get more than 1 suit, and get them tailored. You never know when you might need to look nice multiple days in a row.

Scubamonk · May 25, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

Lol. Didn't he sue Best Buy for wrongful termination due to not wanting to work Saturdays? Sounds like a great fit for restaurant work.

The Adder · May 25, 2018

Weird Al had a baby with Arliss Loveless. Tell me you don't see it.

BY2K · May 25, 2018

He looks like a fat version of Markiplier.

Pagusas · May 25, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

OMG this part kills me:

The company also decided to offer him a "signing bonus" of $1,101, saying it would beat an offer of $1,100 from his parents, an apparent reference to money Rotondo's parents, Mark and Christina Rotondo, gave their son earlier this year to help him move out.

Michael Rotondo told "Good Morning America" this week that he accepted the money but spent it on "other things."

Valus · May 25, 2018

Jbourne said:
This should really be a lesson to any 20-somethings here. Get more than 1 suit, and get them tailored. You never know when you might need to look nice multiple days in a row.

Most people don't need multiple suits. Get a handful of dress shirts and ties sure, but multiple full on suits? Waste of money imo.

okayfrog · May 25, 2018

studyguy said:
The story has reached its inevitable conclusion

Didn't believe this so I went and checked for myself. Yup, he's really on there.

Deleted member 19003 · May 25, 2018

Pagusas said:
OMG this part kills me:

Michael Rotondo told "Good Morning America" this week that he accepted the money but spent it on "other things."

wowowow

studyguy · May 25, 2018

okayfrog said:
Didn't believe this so I went and checked for myself. Yup, he's really on there.

He got $3 grand from Alex and a potential job.

I Don't Like · May 25, 2018

studyguy said:
The story has reached its inevitable conclusion

Ok, I HAVE to know what was said. I have no doubt Alex Jones has railed against adults living with their parents on his show before so what could possible compel him to have this guy on?

Deleted member 19003 · May 25, 2018

PlayALLTheGames said:
Ok, I HAVE to know what was said. I have no doubt Alex Jones has railed against adults living with their parents on his show before so what could possible compel him to have this guy on?

He's a "libertarian" and hates being mislabeled as one of those entitled liberals (no joke).

Septimus Prime · May 25, 2018

Imagine this piece of shit winning custody of his child. Fuck that.

Inuhanyou · May 25, 2018

this is a non story. just another fluff piece to denigrate millennials and younger people for whatever reason. Seriously guys, your not doing the future of this planet any favors

Kurdel · May 25, 2018

studyguy said:
The story has reached its inevitable conclusion

Of fucking course

I Don't Like · May 25, 2018

Cas said:
He's a "libertarian" and hates being mislabeled as one of those entitled liberals (no joke).

Ok but how does that reconcile that he's a grown ass man living at home and doesn't want to get a job or move out????

Inuhanyou said:
this is a non story. just another fluff piece to denigrate millennials and younger people for whatever reason. Seriously guys, your not doing the future of this planet any favors

I'm not saying it's news-worthy but the issue here seems clear and it doesn't mean it denigrates all millennials and young people. The dude has a kid and is still living at home with no willingness to take responsibility for his life or his child's life.

Vadara · May 25, 2018

Ferrio said:
Please be parody
Please Be A Parody
*looks at avatar*
PLEASE BE A PARODY

What's a parody about my post? The economy sucks, college costs way too much, and it's gonna get even worse with the shit Trump and the GOP are pulling. There's no point in getting a job and scraping by every month. My dad hates his own job and says it makes him want to kill himself every day--you think I wanna go through that? I'm not even white and neurodivergent so I'm already starting off at a disadvantage.

It's really more "why waste the effort trying when you're gonna be scraping by every month and miserable for the rest of your life with zero chance at fulfillment and happiness." Capitalism is a joke. No use even trying to play this rigged game--the house always wins.

LunaSerena · May 25, 2018

I don't see problems with living with your parents if you contribute to the household. At least for me, it's like living with a roommate. I'm 24 by the way.

Sure, there are rules, but nothing I find fault with so far. I contribute to the household so my mom can live well (she has no way to support herself), help with some chores and I can take care of her since she is aging, and at the same time I can save up for my future projects. That European idea of simply going away as soon as you are of age is a bit ridiculous to me. If it is an arrangement that benefits both parties it should not be a problem. At the same time, expeting your parents to leave you something is kind of old fashioned. My father already told me that dealing with my student debt was his inheritance and I want mom to enjoy her retirement money on, well, herself. If I inherit a house I will probably sell it or rent it.

Now, this guy is a leech. He has a sister that seems to be quite normal, it is simply him that is an entitled, whiny... I'd say brat but he's too old for that.

Deleted member 19003 · May 25, 2018

PlayALLTheGames said:
Ok but how does that reconcile that he's a grown ass man living at home and doesn't want to get a job or move out????

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

H.Protagonist · May 25, 2018

Jbourne said:
This should really be a lesson to any 20-somethings here. Get more than 1 suit, and get them tailored. You never know when you might need to look nice multiple days in a row.

Yup. Even just two would be good.

Valus said:
Most people don't need multiple suits. Get a handful of dress shirts and ties sure, but multiple full on suits? Waste of money imo.

You need at least two. Neeeeeeeed.

$10 Bagel · May 25, 2018

Helel said:
Sounds like how I'll spend my free time when employed. Lol.

What free time

Foxtastical · May 25, 2018

People can't be serious about the "I don't want to be a wageslave" thing, right?

You do realize that every waking hour you're awake costs money? Someone has to pay for you to breathe and exist on this planet. Either you take up that position or someone else has to. Simple as that. Contribute and deal with it.

lenovox1 · May 25, 2018

Everyone needs at least two suits.

H.Protagonist said:
Yup. Even just two would be good.

You need at least two. Neeeeeeeed.

I'm guessing his parents got him this set a few years ago for a funeral. Maaaaaaaybe a formal wedding.

Ferrio · May 25, 2018

Vadara said:
What's a parody about my post? The economy sucks, college costs way too much, and it's gonna get even worse with the shit Trump and the GOP are pulling. There's no point in getting a job and scraping by every month. My dad hates his own job and says it makes him want to kill himself every day--you think I wanna go through that? I'm not even white and neurodivergent so I'm already starting off at a disadvantage.

It's really more "why waste the effort trying when you're gonna be scraping by every month and miserable for the rest of your life with zero chance at fulfillment and happiness." Capitalism is a joke. No use even trying to play this rigged game--the house always wins.

First of all it's a defeatist attitude. Ya the world isn't fair, ya you can work hard and not achieve anything, but you're 100% guaranteed not to achieve anything if you just give up. You talk about Trump and not being white, but who do you think benefits the most from you just sitting on your ass and not bettering yourself? Those exact same people who want to keep you down. You're only 22, like you've barely started your adult life and you're ready to throw in the towel.

And last of all, if you're going to just shut down and say fuck it to life don't romanticize it with some stupid Japanese bullshit.

edit: Also you talk about your dad's working condition and mental health.... maybe working and helping him out on the bills might alleviate that? If you care for him you'll do something on his behalf and not just your own. Just a thought.

Inuhanyou · May 25, 2018

PlayALLTheGames said:
I'm not saying it's news-worthy but the issue here seems clear and it doesn't mean it denigrates all millennials and young people. The dude has a kid and is still living at home with no willingness to take responsibility for his life or his child's life.

It does because its feeding into a narrative, and the narrative itself is self destructive

sourbeef · May 25, 2018

I own three suit jackets but only one pair of slacks.

:o(

Aviator Irelia · May 25, 2018

PSqueak said:
Counter point: imagine being such shitty parents that you produced said ill-equipped human being that you're now suing to get off your house because you failed as parents.

I always love this idea from people. As if when someone becomes an adult that automatically adhere to all good teachings their parents gave them and if they're a bad person, it was the PARENTS fault. Not like perfectly good homes haven't produced monsters and loafs before

RedMercury · May 25, 2018

I mean, so what happens here? I get people have fun making fun of the guy but the fact is he has very little experience in anything, he's likely socially maladjusted, he may not be able to keep a job down at this point and it's going to be hard finding someone to take a chance on him. He's incredibly lucky that restaurant reached out, hopefully he doesn't have any condition that would prevent him from being on his feet all day. I don't know how he will work while homeless. Like, yeah the dude messed up something bad and doesn't seem willing to fix it but at this point shouldn't he be getting a social worker or something because there's a high likelihood he's going to be homeless and unemployed in the near future and "well fuck him then" while maybe enjoyable to say I hope we can do better than that as a country eventually.

I think it sucks too that so much is being projected upon him, like he represents the sins of an entire generation (or two including his parents) when he's just some lazy dude. He's been torn down so much that even if he did work hard it may not help, he's got too much of a mountain to climb.

Aviator Irelia said:
I always love this idea from people. As if when someone becomes an adult that automatically adhere to all good teachings their parents gave them and if they're a bad person, it was the PARENTS fault. Not like perfectly good homes haven't produced monsters and loafs before

Agreed, it sucks hearing this as a parent. You do your best but it isn't magic. You can teach right from wrong but you can't force them to only do right after a certain point or really ever, they are going to make bad decisions.

Aviator Irelia · May 25, 2018

Vadara said:
What's a parody about my post? The economy sucks, college costs way too much, and it's gonna get even worse with the shit Trump and the GOP are pulling. There's no point in getting a job and scraping by every month. My dad hates his own job and says it makes him want to kill himself every day--you think I wanna go through that? I'm not even white and neurodivergent so I'm already starting off at a disadvantage.

It's really more "why waste the effort trying when you're gonna be scraping by every month and miserable for the rest of your life with zero chance at fulfillment and happiness." Capitalism is a joke. No use even trying to play this rigged game--the house always wins.

Just as a warning, you're on the path to homelessness. Don't think you're in any unique situation because of circumstances. Tons and tons of homeless people never thought they would be homeless either.

Deleted member 887 · May 25, 2018

Pagusas said:
OMG this part kills me:

He has no intention of being productive

Addleburg · May 25, 2018

cwmartin said:
They probably want the money resulting from selling it, they don't want it.

I don't "want" any of my parents property in that sense.

That's what I meant. Not that they'd want to live in it, per se. In the context of the larger discussion of parents passing down their possessions to their kids to do what they want with, they'd want your house. It's like saying "I don't want my mom's jewelry. I want my mom's jewelry to sell it." At the end of the day, you want your mom's jewelry so you can do what you want with it.

Zoe said:
That's what liquidating the estate for.

As he said, people want to money, not necessarily the house itself. In many of these situations it's very likely for the house to be in poor condition, in BFE where none of the children want to live, or in such a hot area that the children can't afford to live in it once the property tax exemptions are wiped away.

CWMartin's original point to which I was responding involved him talking about how, supposedly, in America there isn't this expectation that the parents' wealth will be handed off to his kids. His post was never about passing off his home for his kids to live in. He said

I have a my own house but it's not my reality that I will just give this to my children. I will do everything I can to afford them the same opportunities I had, but they aren't just going to be awarded whatever wealth I manage to accumulate.

As I responded to his point above, my comment was never about the kids wanting the home to live in. But rather that they'd probably want his home. And that since you can't take your possessions with you, what else would you do with it but pass either the physical items - or the value that the items can be sold off - to your kids.

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