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LRB1983

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Oct 30, 2017
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Maybe SEGA don't like Steam policy for japanese adult games?
j/k
Newell could feel ashamed playing adult chat minigames with japanese pornstars.
 

chris 1515

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just curious how much sell Yakuza in UK Or Europe in general? In Italy is basically an unknown IP

It sells better in UK, sales begin to be better in US.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...r-launch-is-the-biggest-in-the-series-history

The new Yakuza title - Yakuza 6: Song of Life - arrived on PS4 and debuts at No.3. It is the biggest launch for a Yakuza game yet. It beat the previous best - 2017's Yakuza Kiwami - by 300 units.[...]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/8246262/

Yakuza 6 has officially reached niche status in the US. Which is a really really good thing for the series. Higher opening than the other PS4 games. Already doing better than the PS3 games ever did.

I think like all japanese games, it sells pretty good in France and maybe some other country in Europe. When I said good, it is good as a niche game.
 

Staticneuron

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Oct 25, 2017
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It seems this thread is still going on. Question was posed, Answers are given some refute either by saying they don't believe it or that Sega is stupid. Amazing how things don't seem to change much over the years.

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FFX is only on PlayStation systems and has been for almost 20 years now. PC is not a console. but I get what you're saying. that Yakuza can come to PC. sure, I think that makes sense too. but that's it.

that's usually how it works with console exclusive games with Sony. they stay on PlayStation systems only in terms of actual consoles, but may or may not also come to PC, which is not a console.

I don't think that is the point. I think this response was aimed at the assumption that Sony made a deal for that label to appear on boxes. I doubt it takes much beyond 3rd party stating that they are only planning on making it for Playstation for the time being. As history has shown we have seen games thought to be exclusive to either Playstation or Xbox, make it to the other consoles. As long as a third party owns the IP it is safe to assume that a game has the possibility of going MP and simply trust the pubs at their word if they state they don't plan on making it Multiplatform.
 

khamakazee

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just because Sony doesn't own the IP doesn't mean you're owed and that Sega needs to do what you say and spend more money to bring it to other platforms. They will do what's best for them.

Yakuza has been a PlayStation series from the beginning. People that have been playing Yakuza since 2005 purchased a PlayStation many years ago and know exactly where the series will always end up. If you still don't understand this because "it's a Sega title" and port begging makes more sense to you then carry on, I guess? Don't "act alarmed" when it's still exclusive years from now.

Final Fantasy used to be a Nintendo series, what's your point? Tomb Raider used to be a PlayStation game as well. You're acting like it bothers you people are suggesting Sega who is a third party provider should just keep the franchise on one platform just because. Shenmue has been all over the place so let's not even go there of saying they know what's best, you're a consumer so maybe act like one instead of a shareholder.

Yakuza is what it is so of course we are not owed anything, but this is a game forum so you should expect different viewpoints without the need to label others as a port beggar of a third party title. It's not like the series has only been a PlayStation title in the past either so lighten up.

Valkyria Chronicles finally came to the pc and there was a lot of positive attitude and response over that, so it doesn't hurt to be a bit more optimistic yourself.
 

Deleted member 2254

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's a lot of Japanese titles that go to Nintendo or Sony by default. It's just how things roll for some reason, and after a while it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy even if they try and change something.

Release all games on same platform -> Due to fan demand release a random chapter on another platform at a later date -> Due to a delayed release and the fact the platform knows nothing about this lenghty franchise, sales aren't that good -> Go back to releasing all games on the same platform
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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What even are you arguing any more? You originally blamed the transition to PS4 for the sales decline, so are you saying the mere existence of Yakuza 0 on PS4 is to blame for the decline on PS3 too? That makes no sense.

That Eurogamer article you posted was from a third hand source which didn't really go into much detail. As far as I'm aware, Yakuza 5 got a new graphics engine, not an entirely "ground up" new engine. The biggest change was removing the loading time before and after fights.

Do you have figures for their marketing spend or even evidence Yakuza 0 was promoted significantly less than 5 or 6 then? Otherwise, all you're doing is latching onto a meaningless point with nothing to go on but your own theories.
I actually wasn't blaming the PS4, it's the opposite. The drop from Yakuza 2-3 can be pretty squarely laid on PS3's shoulders and it's clear decline from PS2. In that case initial sales were still pretty comparable too, it was higher catalog budget sales that were lost as PS3 was a comparably niche console. With Yakuza 5-6 (feel free to insert 0 between them if you like) though we can't simply look to the health of the platform as PS4 is basically selling flat with PS3. The steep decline now is one based on the health of franchise itself seemingly although it does again correspond with the generational transition. I did say PS4 isn't making up the lost ground so I can see how I should've been clearer, the issues appear to run deeper than the system itself.

Also graphics engine? 3rd hand source? And I'm the the one who gets accused of goalposting, lol?

We don't have promotional figures for any game in the series, that doesn't mean we can make judgements based on how they were handled. 6 had more Famitsu spreads, more live streams, more trade show outings, it's not hard to guess more was spent here. Just like how we don't have dev budgets for the games but it's not hard to assume 6 was more costly with it's ground up new graphics engine.
 

NewErakid

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Jan 17, 2018
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yakuza is pretty niche as it is and not profitable enough to warrant an attempt at porting to other platforms.
 

Jimmyfenix

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Oct 25, 2017
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Final Fantasy used to be a Nintendo series, what's your point? Tomb Raider used to be a PlayStation game as well. You're acting like it bothers you people are suggesting Sega who is a third party provider should just keep the franchise on one platform just because. Shenmue has been all over the place so let's not even go there of saying they know what's best, you're a consumer so maybe act like one instead of a shareholder.

Yakuza is what it is so of course we are not owed anything, but this is a game forum so you should expect different viewpoints without the need to label others as a port beggar of a third party title. It's not like the series has only been a PlayStation title in the past either so lighten up.

Valkyria Chronicles finally came to the pc and there was a lot of positive attitude and response over that, so it doesn't hurt to be a bit more optimistic yourself.


And that is why sega is porting vc4 on every system even xbox one but are skipping the pc release
 

CrazyAznKT

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Nov 8, 2017
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I remember seeing something about how Yakuaz Kiwami 2 is happening because 0 and K1 were performing so well in the west. I honestly don't see the problem with Sega releasing the game on other platforms even if they won't perform great in Japan itself. I can see KH3 being somewhat of a test case for these kind of situations?

Because of this:

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(i don't even know if this gif is real, but the context is)

Xbox is barely existing in Japan, where Yakuza does most of the money. Nintendo on the other hand, I think they're just not interested, but it would make real money in the Switch.
Slightly off topic, but I need that kid's hat.
 

Madao

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Oct 26, 2017
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i think there's just too many games to catch up on a non-PS platform.

the best chance to make this series multiplatform is once they decide to reboot it and start a new story. (didn't they say they'd reboot the series soon?)
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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i think there's just too many games to catch up on a non-PS platform.

the best chance to make this series multiplatform is once they decide to reboot it and start a new story. (didn't they say they'd reboot the series soon?)
The series is getting a soft reboot with the next game, we may hear about it at tgs this year, but the remasters happening sooner than I expected makes me wonder if it'll be next year.

anyway, my opinion on this is that it's just that sega don't want to branch out to other consoles. They've put more of an effort to branching the series out to more of Asia with day 1 translations for places like China and Korea, plus the series is starting to do better overseas. PC releases would be cool for mods, future proofing and getting newer games at higher frame rates, and switch would be great for portable play, but I just don't see them making enough of. A return on Xbox for it to be worth Segas effort. I'd happily be wrong though.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Not sure if it has already been posted:

Nagoshi recently told Eurogamer.
"At the beginning of the project we spoke to all the platform holders including Sony and Microsoft," he said, "Every platform holder was negative about this prospect, but we kept on pushing because we believed in the potential, and as we kept going one platform holder that showed interest and saw the prospects of this title was Sony."

"That's how we started working with them, and that's probably not going to change."
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-24-yakuza-unlikely-on-xbox-360
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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I remember seeing something about how Yakuaz Kiwami 2 is happening because 0 and K1 were performing so well in the west. I honestly don't see the problem with Sega releasing the game on other platforms even if they won't perform great in Japan itself. I can see KH3 being somewhat of a test case for these kind of situations?
I recall 0 doing low numbers in the west but Kiwami did better I think. 6 looks like a relative breakout though.
 

Jimmyfenix

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Oct 25, 2017
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mentioned by the producer yesterday if anyone is holding hope for the newly announced remasters

Editor: In addition to the PS4, are there plans to launch on PCs, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, etc.?

Sato: Currently determined to be exclusive to PS4, there are no plans to for other platforms.
 

Gen X

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Probably because Xbox is for Dudebro and CoDbae gamers. Playstation has always seemed to have a strong showing for Japanese exclusives.