I would give it the benefit of the doubt if i haven't played Indigo, Heavy and Beyond. Not anymore. Also, the same thing happened with every game released by this company and the press.
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Detroit: Become Human - Review thread
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I would give it the benefit of the doubt if i haven't played Indigo, Heavy and Beyond. Not anymore. Also, the same thing happened with every game released by this company and the press.
Just watch the first hour on youtube and forge your opinion buddy.
They barely ever do written reviews anymore but Alex (who did the Quick Look) didn't like the game.
And yet these are the same sites that'll write articles criticizing gamers for being so hostile to developers.
I wasn't intending to take into account anything like that, it was simply a factual statement that there is no consensus that the game is badly written.
Though its kind of strange to blame a lack of consensus on homogeneity
Probably been covered befor so apologies if so but it's scored lower than Heavy Rain (87 versus 80 for Detroit). How does it seem like the best QD game yet?
Again, Cage asked people to judge him and his views based on what's found in this game and his other work.
Heavy Rain was made 10 years ago, you can always try out Detroit's PSN demo to confirm your gut feeling. Or not. :)
I'm gonna say that what consider 'hostile/toxic to David Cage' is not what most people mean when they criticise gamers being 'toxic to developers'. Come on... devs get death threats/rape threats/doxxed daily but.... oh no! Someone criticised the writing in Detroit! They're literally being a critic of his work. It's their job.
This seems the kind of game where most "traditional" outlets just don't have te capability to analyze and review. Most game reviews aren't great but in a game that tackles a subject like this one more informed takes are definetly needed.
Curious what Austin Walker thinks of it. Navarro thinking it isn't good is not a good sign, curious to hear his reasoning.
Curious what Austin Walker thinks of it. Navarro thinking it isn't good is not a good sign, curious to hear his reasoning.
Wtf? They rail against bozos who send devs DEATH THREATS and urge them to kill themselves— they're not coming for users who diss their creative efforts. False equivalency 101.
Be better.
EDIT:
Yes.
Or are you guys just upset the next PS exclusive is getting flak from some of them?
Man a lot of people really seem to hate Cage.
Personally I have no interest in all that stuff, I just care about the game and from all the good reviews, I'm looking forward to playing it.
As a Sci-Fi fan and really enjoying shows like Humans and movies like Blade Runner / Blade Runner 2049, Detroit is definitely something I'm going to enjoy.
Most of the reviews I've read / watched have no major issues with the writing, sure it's not perfect but no game is and the general score is really good, so that's good enough for me.
Personally I have no interest in all that stuff, I just care about the game and from all the good reviews, I'm looking forward to playing it.
As a Sci-Fi fan and really enjoying shows like Humans and movies like Blade Runner / Blade Runner 2049, Detroit is definitely something I'm going to enjoy.
Most of the reviews I've read / watched have no major issues with the writing, sure it's not perfect but no game is and the general score is really good, so that's good enough for me.
Austin's been mashing the retweet on that Mashable review today so fair to say he's found something to agree about. Or at least an interesting argument there. I love Austin and his thoughtful criticism. It's the best.
Yeah right, like someone like him wouldn't be biased right? It's like seeing the CEO of Audi congratulating on Volkswagen's newest car xD
I'm gonna wait for Edge to review this game before I get it instead. Too many mixed opinions about it floating around right now...
Making fun of someone is not a critique
And this is exactly what some of those "journalist" are doing. Not like I really care about them or Cage but I found it pretty hypocritical
I read the review.
It aint great.
It makes some interesting notions early on but gets messed up when the writer talks about the use of skin colour in the game.
The reviewer seems to imply that none of the androids should be white (because apparently white people have never oppressed and enslaved other white people in history before; and because apparently having white oppressed androids is an alagory for the alt-right's view of themselves (wtf, no it isnt)) and that
"The removal of skin colour"
making yourself "white"
Like ffs, it feels like this review is the perfect example of anchoring and cognitive bias at its finest.
How about no.
What are your lotto numbers? ...So that I can scratch 'em off my list :P
Must've missed the really hateful stuff. I've only seen criticism and, at most, playful poking at the images that came out of these threads. Maybe it's who I follow!
That wouldn't happen though, because it's easier to buy 2 games than 2 cars :P
Some example please? I have zero interest in the game whatsoever, but I do remember David Cage having... issues with work place atmosphere, so he naturally attracts some flak, including from the more socially/politically aware members on this board.
User Warned: Ignoring mod post.
Mods, I feel like everyone who wants to derail the thread without real arguments about the game (but dont want to be punhished) keep saying "but but but its a David Cage game, this cant be a good game" and nobody do something about it.
When I hear comparisons of the social politics in this game to the Netflix film Bright, yeah that's a really bad sign :P
https://mashable.com/2018/05/24/detroit-become-human-quantic-dream-review-ps4/#y5Zf16_QKuqx (Jess Joho)
https://mashable.com/2018/05/24/detroit-become-human-quantic-dream-review-ps4/#y5Zf16_QKuqx (Jess Joho)
She doesn't but you tried it.
Who is doing this? Who is taking personal shots at David Cage and not David Cage's current and past works?
Have you seen those damn socks!? I'm never buying another Barlog game again. Disgusting.
About the same as heavy rain, nothing to different apart from a next gen coat of paint.
Not a bad thing for heavy rain fans.
Not a bad thing for heavy rain fans.
It doesn't matter what I think. He is on the same payroll as David Cage.
It might be more fair to suggest playing Beyond as that's his most recent work.
(although you probably shouldn't)
You must be quite the happy person if facts make you laugh that hard ;)
Lol. Don't project your fanboy thoughts on other people
I was talking about some of them who are being assholes for no reason. Never said that any critique for this game is not true.
very very unsurprisingly, this thread turned out to be what i expected before i clicked. people thinking this game deserves more than the decent reviews it's getting (people who haven't played it btw, unlike reviewers) and assuming the reviewers have some sort of vendetta against cage/QD/sony.
Not really seeing much of that at all actually. Most people are saying "ok great its reviewed pretty well, cant wait to try it" or "this particular review makes me not want to buy it". There were a few drive by posts earlier in the day, but I think that dried up when it was generally reviewing well... I think this place would have been a disaster had it been around the 60 mark this morning.
Less snark would be nice, but i guess you never try for less snark >~>
Also:
from the review said:
Literally talks about how seeing a "white" character calling for an end to oppression being negative, implying that the problem is that they are white.
no kojima is maybe an even bigger hack than cage
at least cage makes some unintentionally funny stuff