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Terraforce

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Oct 27, 2017
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Do u understand that MK8 on Switch alone will be selling for years and easily will reach 20-25M copies (+8 on Wii U = ~30M)? Even Zelda will sell 15-20M. It alreasy passed 10M and still charting high around the world. Mario Odyssey will sell 20M. It passed 10M already.
Potentially, but those are just blind projections. Mario Kart is only at 9 million after more than a year, so I'm not so sure it'll come close to what you're predicting.

Who is to say GoW can't do the same? By your logic it should be able to at least surpass Zelda since it sold a significant amount more than Zelda in the same time frame. It took Zelda several months to get close to 5 mill, which GoW did in less than a single month.
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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Potentially, but those are justblind projections. Who is to say GoW can't do the same? By your logic it should be able to at least surpass Zelda since it sold a significant amount more than Zelda in the same time frame. It took Zelda several months to get close to 5 mill, which GoW did in less than a single month.
BotW's sales were way more spread out due to Switch shortages though (aside from the few who didn't mind playing it on Wii U). It had close to a 100% attatch rate for the majority of that time period. It's launch was completely different from GoW's.
 

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Who is to say GoW can't do the same?

It could potentially, but it would be unprecedented for Sony. Nintendo's attach rates for their software is far beyond those of the other two hardware makers. Due to what drives consumers to Nintendo's hardware, games like MK8, Odyssey, and BotW will continue to sell strong numbers for at least the next 2 years and quite possibly longer, especially if new entries in those franchises don't appear before 2021. If GoW can attach itself to the majority of future PS4 purchases, that would be incredibly impressive.
 

chandoog

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Jaded Alyx

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's true tho, idk why it triggers so many ppl
How about you explain yourself then so we can understand instead of you just posting this with no supporting information?

Tell us, how is GoW a bigger franchise than Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc.

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On topic, I haven't played any GoW but this is certainly the first time I've been interested in doing so. They really did a great job in all aspects of the release.
 

Joule

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Nov 19, 2017
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Incredible sales.

With this kind of success, I think it is actually a mistake not to have ANY post launch content addons for this game. People would surely like to play more stuff.

Eh. It's a complete package. I feel like people suddenly forgot a time before DLC. People will play more stuff... the sequel to this video game when that releases.
 

Terraforce

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Oct 27, 2017
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It could potentially, but it would be unprecedented for Sony.
That's the thing for a lot of Sony games and GoW in particular. The sheer fact that this is the best selling game in the series and the third best selling exclusive on the console after a single month is "unprecedented" in itself.

And to be fair, Nintendo's big franchises sell, but even the best selling 3D Zelda and 3D Mario prior to BotW and Odyssey "only" sold ~10 million. So it's not as if those two in particularly have always sold 20M+ (even though I fully expect the more recent games to reach around there if not past that). Time will tell, but I can see GoW at least matching Zelda (potentially Mario Kart depending on how it sells since it seems to be selling less than the previous two).
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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How about you explain yourself then so we can understand instead of you just posting this with no supporting information?

Tell us, how is GoW a bigger franchise than Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc.

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On topic, I haven't played any GoW but this is certainly the first time I've been interested in doing so. They really did a great job in all aspects of the release.
It's a fantastic game. I'd highly, highly recommend it. And yeah, the marketing was handled perfectly. I wonder if they'll follow suit for TLOUII, GoT etc.
 

huH1678

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Oct 30, 2017
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It could potentially, but it would be unprecedented for Sony. Nintendo's attach rates for their software is far beyond those of the other two hardware makers. Due to what drives consumers to Nintendo's hardware, games like MK8, Odyssey, and BotW will continue to sell strong numbers for at least the next 2 years and quite possibly longer, especially if new entries in those franchises don't appear before 2021. If GoW can attach itself to the majority of future PS4 purchases, that would be incredibly impressive.

The thing is thought, sales of some Sony 1P games have had unprecedented growth and have become some of the biggest games on Sony consoles compared to past sales. So its not so outlandish to expect this to continue on highly rated games they release. Using their previous sales data only sets the barometer for their minimum sales potential and does not reflect what is currently happening. Attach rates aren't nearly as important on Sony consoles because people buy PlayStation for all kinds of reasons, while we know for sure why people buy Nintendo.

Gratz SSM, GOW sales are deserved! it reignited my drive to play more games, i think i beat more games after GOW than i did in the 6months + before.
 

Ocean

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's true tho, idk why it triggers so many ppl



Yeah care to prove me wrong, or just ''yeah no''??
That's just a baity one liner to stir up fanboys. There's plenty of ways to argue this and ultimately people will just pick the one that suits their opinion as legitimate. What makes a bigger franchise, lifetime sales or latest-entry sales? Are we including brand/name recognition or just sales? What about potential to milk sales off the IP with non-mainline games (think Mario Kart)? You could look at attach rates to remove install base bias. Or you could consider evergreen legs as a counter to first-month numbers.

Basically you can either frame this observation far more explicitly to keep it factual (X sold more than Y during its first ____ period), or you can go with the simplistic "X is bigger than Y" bait route and not have it taken seriously.
 

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That's the thing for a lot of Sony games and GoW in particular. The sheer fact that this is the best selling game in the series and the third best selling exclusive on the console after a single month is "unprecedented" in itself.

And to be fair, Nintendo's big franchises sell, but even the best selling 3D Zelda and 3D Mario prior to BotW and Odyssey "only" sold ~10 million. So it's not as if those two in particularly have always sold 20M+ (even though I fully expect the more recent games to reach around there if not past that). Time will tell, but I can see GoW at least matching Zelda (potentially Mario Kart depending on how it sells since it seems to be selling less than the previous two).

GoW matching Zelda is absolutely possible and I think anyone discounting that scenario would be unwise to do so. We're likely looking at around 15 million for Zelda though, not 10, so if GoW reaches 10-11 million, it won't be enough. But it could happen, especially with bundling and discounting. One of the reasons Nintendo's first party sales are so impressive is because they do so at $60 for the majority of their lifespan. They'll never do it, understandably so, but I'd love to see how a game like Zelda would sell if it were heavily bundled or discounted beyond year 1.
 

Saint-14

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Nov 2, 2017
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GoW matching Zelda is absolutely possible and I think anyone discounting that scenario would be unwise to do so. We're likely looking at around 15 million for Zelda though, not 10, so if GoW reaches 10-11 million, it won't be enough. But it could happen, especially with bundling and discounting. One of the reasons Nintendo's first party sales are so impressive is because they do so at $60 for the majority of their lifespan. They'll never do it, understandably so, but I'd love to see how a game like Zelda would sell if it were heavily bundled or discounted beyond year 1.
Nintendo games also have less competition while every new AAA game will release on PS4.
 

N.47H.4N

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Oct 27, 2017
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Zelda? Maybe. Mario? Hell no. Not in this universe.
God of War is bigger than both in Brazil,but that is because Nintendo is not so big here,but yeah,WW not a chance against Mario,but lets not start another God vs Zelda/Mario again,all incredible sucessful games,criticaly and comercial.
 

Raijinto

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Oct 28, 2017
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God of War is bigger than both in Brazil,but that is because Nintendo is not so big here,but yeah,WW not a chance against Mario,but lets not start another God vs Zelda/Mario again,all incredible sucessful games,criticaly and comercial.

It seems as long as Malek in particular is around we are unfortunately doomed to repeat ourselves in this manner since they've done this in 2 threads these last few days and the site does not apparently see this to be an issue...
 

Liquid Snake

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Nov 10, 2017
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I'm happy to hear this. Sony Santa Monica Studios and Sony themselves deserve high praise for giving the game the time, the budget, and the talent needed to make such a phenomenal game that is such an outlier in this (online Battle Royale/Microtransactions/Games As A Service/Cookie Cutter/Ubisoft) market.

The game is everything I dream of as a gamer. It's got depth, soul, humanity, and it's beautiful look at and masterfully executed.

Good to see it rewarded.